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floflo79
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Topic: Bottom 100 of ProgArchives Posted: March 15 2015 at 08:45 |
After some work, I made a bottom 100 of ProgArchives.
- Only studio albums - no proto-prog or prog related - 10 ratings minimum
Il Rovescio Della Medaglia - Vitae (1.05) Simon Railton - Here It Is (1.15) Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - … E Via (1.26) Klaus Schulze - Totentag (1.29) Split Enz - See Ya ‘Round (1.35) Tangerine Dream - Under Cover Chapter One (1.36) New Trolls - Quelli Como Noi (1.36) Goblin - Volo (1.36) O Terēo - O Terēo (1.38) Rick Wakeman - Rock N Roll Prophet (1.41) Björk - Björk Guomundsdottir (1.43) Beggar’s Opera - The Final Curtain (1.44) Jane - Beautiful Lady (1.44) Santana - Beyond Apperances (1.44) Chicago - Twenty 1 (1.45) Le Orme - Orme (1.46) Crack The Sky - White Music (1.47) Shub-NIggurath - Testament (1.48) Novalis - Nach Uns Die Flut (1.48) Jeff Wayne - Spartacus (1.49) Tangerine Dream - Three O’Clock High (1.51) Ashra - Tropical Heat (1.51) Triumvirat - Russian Roulette (1.52) Utopia - Trivia (1.53) Starcastle - Real To Reel (1.54) Babe Ruth - Kid’s Stuff (1.54) Lucifer’s Friend - Sumogrip (1.55) Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Urgentissimo (1.58) Torman Maxt - The Problem Of Pain Part I (1.58) Badger - White Lady (1.58) Björk - The Music From Drawing Restraint 9 (1.58) Rick Wakeman - The Family Album (1.58) Edge Of Sanity - Cryptic (1.59) Grobschnitt - Fantasten (1.59) Shaman - Immortal (1.59) Steve Hillage - For To Next (1.60) Atoll - L’Océan (1.60) Patrick Moraz - Change Of Space (1.62) Renaissance - Time-Line (1.63) Machiavel - New Lines (1.63) Amon Düül - Disaster (1.64) Klaus Schulze - Aphrica (1.65) Omar Rodriguez-Lopez - Despair (1.67) Phideaux - Friction (1.68) Grobschnitt - Kinder + Narren (1.69) New Trolls - Aldebaran (1.70) Budka Suflera - Bal Wszystkich Swletych (1.70) Emerson, Lake & Palmer - In The Hot Seat (We were all waiting for it) (1.71) Pat Metheny - Zero Tolerance For Silence (1.72) Ange - Egna (1.72) Franco Battiato - L’Egitto Prima Delle Sabbie (1.73) Lacrimosa - Sehnsucht (1.73) Triumvirat - A La Carte (1.74) Chicago - Chicago 13 (1.74) Steve Howe - Seraphim (1.74) Popol Vuh - Sheperd’s Symphony (1.74) Isildurs Bane - Eight Moments Of Eternity (1.75) Captain Beefheart - Unconditionally Guaranteed (1.78) Ange - A Propos De… (1.78) Gäa - Alraunes Alptraum (1.78) Supertramp - Free As A Bird (1.79) Omar Rodriguez-Lopez & Jeremy Michael Ward - Omar Rodriguez-Lopez & Jeremy Michael Ward (1.79) Le Orme - Venerdi (1.81) Split Enz - Conflicting Emotions (1.81) Zyclope - Uno (1.83) Flea - Flea On The Honey (1.84) Epidaurus - Endangered (1.84) Dave Greenslade - Going South (1.85) Rick Wakeman - Aspirant Sunset (1.87) Acid Mothers Temple - Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Paraiso UFO (1.87) Pancake - Roxy Elephant (1.87) The Prog Collective - Epilogue (1.88) Tangerine Dream - Dead Solid Perfect OST (1.88) Omega - A Föld Amyékos Oldalan (1.88) Frank Zappa - Joe’s Damage (1.89) Jeff Beck - Flash (1.89) Deathspell Omega - Infernal Battles (1.90) Grobschnitt - Razzia (1.91) Acuity - Skyward (1.91) Pestilence - Resurrection Macabre (1.92) Patrick Moraz - Timecode (1.92) Uriah Heep - Equator (1.93) Babe Ruth - Que Pasa (1.93) Queensr˙che - Frequency Unknown (1.94) Santana - Freedom (1.94) Le Orme - Biancaneve (1.94) PFM - Miss Baker (1.95) MIke Patton - Adult Themes For Voice (1.95) The Residents - The Big Bubble (1.95) Electric Light Orchestra - Balance Of Power (1.97) PFM - PFM? PFM! (1.97) Heldon - Only Chaos Is Real (1.97) Frank Zappa - The Mystery Disc (1.98) Jan Akkerman - 3 (1.98) Glass Hammer - Journey Of The Dunadan (1.99) Utopia - Swing To The Right (1.99) Deyss - At-King (2.02) Brian Eno - Nerve Net (2.02) Negura Bunget - Zirnindu-Sa (2.02) - Renaissance - The Other Woman (2.03)
No big surprises, but still interesting. Some ratings may change with time.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 08:53 |
I'm actually surprised to see a few artists on here, although most of them are albums I haven't heard.
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floflo79
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 09:00 |
I'm glad that I've not heard many of them :)
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floflo79
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 09:01 |
I'm working to make the 100-200 part of the chart.
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micky
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 09:05 |
51. Franco Battiato - L’Egitto Prima Delle Sabbie (1.73)
amazing 1 star album.. and one of my best reviews 
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Cristi
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 09:36 |
I think i only know 3 or 4 albums from this big list
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moshkito
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 10:01 |
Hi,
Now ... HERE'S my kind of top ten! But it's missing way too many "little" bands that deserve to be listed here, though. Again, the main reason why I do not like the top/bottom ten, is because it is not about the artist, it's about the album you bought and not the rest of the artists' work.
For example, I have not purchased the later PFM stuff (yet) or even heard it. Doesn't mean I won't. If I get that far, I will! Samething wth Le Orme/Orme. But I never lost sight, for example, of Steve Hillage, or Daevid Allen, whose solo albums should be listed here, even though ... it will force an update of the definition!
I don't have all of these albums, but many of them appeared on the Space Pirate Radio shows and I remember them. That said, here is a small list of things that to me, are just a part of the artist's work and not a top or bottom anything!
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - … E Via (1.26) Klaus Schulze - Totentag (1.29) Tangerine Dream - Under Cover Chapter One (1.36) New Trolls - Quelli Como Noi (1.36) Goblin - Volo (1.36) Jane - Beautiful Lady (1.44) Le Orme - Orme (1.46) Tangerine Dream - Three O’Clock High (1.51) Ashra - Tropical Heat (1.51) Badger - White Lady (1.58) Steve Hillage - For To Next (1.60) Atoll - L’Océan (1.60) Amon Düül - Disaster (1.64) Machiavel - New Lines (1.63) Pat Metheny - Zero Tolerance For Silence (1.72) Franco Battiato - L’Egitto Prima Delle Sabbie (1.73) Acid Mothers Temple - Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Paraiso UFO (1.87)
Edited by moshkito - March 15 2015 at 10:15
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 10:17 |
There's an album on there that I actually quite like, and that's Shub-Niggurath's Testament. I can see why it's so reviled by a lot of people who like Les Morts Vont Vite, because the character of the group had completely changed. The bleak and gothic prog of LMVV is gone and in its place is bleak and abstract free improvisation. But if you approach it with that expectation, and you actually like free improv, it's not bad.
Edited by Mascodagama - March 15 2015 at 10:27
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floflo79
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 10:22 |
Agree with you Mascodagam, Testament is a pretty good album, and it don't deserve to be so low. Moshkito, I agree with you for some albums, but L'Océan, for example, is a really bad album, Atoll or not.
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twseel
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 12:03 |
Drawing Restraint 9, Unconditionally Guaranteed and the Acid Mothers Temple debut are pretty good
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floflo79
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 12:38 |
Agreed for Acid Mothers Temple debut, but Drawing Restraint.... is very bad, and Unconditionally Guaranteed is poor.
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moshkito
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 15:13 |
Hi,
See ... I don't do that!
Because you like one album by JoeSchmoe, and you don't like the other, does not mean he is not an artist and deserves to be listed.
It's just sad to say that I don't like this album therefore it stinks and get it off the list ... c'mon, Picasso had his crap, so did Andi Warhol, so did the Beatles and Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd and Genesis ... so why are you still just talking "songs" and not an artist with a full repertoire of material, the combination of which, makes the artist worthwhile?
For me, that list was mostly about telling you that it was a part of an artist, whose work I enjoyed and still appreciate. Might not be the favorite album of theirs, but that's OK ... I still appreciate their work regardless!
Edited by moshkito - March 15 2015 at 15:14
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presdoug
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Posted: March 15 2015 at 16:21 |
I actually like Triumvirat's Russian Roulette, but it took me quite a while to get to that point.
I've always liked Badger's White Lady album, though it's not prog so much as something like a Jackie Lomax solo album.
Most of the others I have never heard.
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 00:35 |
Of the ones I know, it makes sense...most are not prog and/or not very good or for fans and collectors only. AMT's debut is really the only odd duck of the ones I know...but I suppose it's a bit too noisy for some/most.
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 05:00 |
Sort of surprised to see Adult Themes for Voice on there. I would think it would be more polarizing than having such a strong negative reaction. Okay maybe I'm not that surprised. But I thought there was some cool stuff happening.
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richardh
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 10:43 |
OMG there are actually 47 worse albums than In The Hot Seat
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presdoug
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 11:21 |
richardh wrote:
OMG there are actually 47 worse albums than In The Hot Seat |
That's the only ELP studio album I've never heard, but sounds like I'm not missing much.
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 11:32 |
The only one I own is the Battiato album, which is an acquired taste to say the least.
Oh yeah - I've heard In the Hot Seat twice, I think, and I'm pretty sure I'll never hear it again. As for the others listed, then it's probably the TD and Schulze ones I'm most likely to visit, although they're far from being on my wishlist. I may get the Shub album though as Masco's description entices the improv fan in me. Other than that, go fish.
Edited by Guldbamsen - March 16 2015 at 11:34
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 12:03 |
I am shocked to learn that somebody gave Rick Wakeman's Rock and Roll Prophet more than one star.
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 12:52 |
Friction? Did not see that coming...
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