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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2015 at 09:28
This more or less : AKT. BLEMEBAYA / DI VENTO. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl-cxVsZidM
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2015 at 09:25
The fact that hip-hop artists have used some prog for samples, does not make for prog hip-hop. Prog is more of a "listening experience", while hip-hop us more on the "dance music" side, so they don't really aim at the same audience nor level/intent of composition. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2015 at 03:06
I don't dislike Outkast but it's a rare exception. Years ago I've heard somebody rapping on the intro of Renaissance's "Can You  Understand". It's HATEFUL!
New generations may never know what the originall was, they may think that it's somebodyMC's stuff.
Has anybody heard the cover of Comfortably Numb?
 
The only good thing I know is that an Italian rapper some years ago declared to have discovered AREA while searching for tunes to use as base and started geting interested in their music.
 
Apart of this, I would forbid it, especially when it's clear that the artist(?) doesn't understand anything of what he's chattering on. It's not like Herbie Hancock making disco music. I don't like it but he's still an artist.
 
The only prog-rap I'm aware of is an excellent song from the Avant band Quintorigo: "Rap-tus". It requires a translation from Italian to be completely appreciated because it would be a masterpiece even just as novel.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2015 at 02:03
Outkast damn autocorrect
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2015 at 02:01
I'd say Lotus probably counts. Outlast's double album?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2015 at 00:55
How about Dalek, Flying Lotus, and Deathgrip?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2015 at 00:22
Yes, there is such thing as prog hip-hop :) and I'd like to recommend two great prog hip-hop albums released in 2014:
New York Telephone by Uncommon Nasa http://uncommonrecords.bandcamp.com/album/new-york-telephone
 
 
 
 
"If there's anything common about the prog rap evil genius, it's his consistent honesty and passion for the art of music, and his city"
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2015 at 23:22
I first thought about BECK who is brilliant…… His music is, without a doubt, progressive….NO, I am not saying He is PROG, but cutting edge creative, and makes use of beats that border on hip-hop….. ODELAY is a killer album !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2015 at 21:40
I thought this was going to be a discussion of hip hop that is progressive.

Here is something I found recently:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2015 at 21:23
Does a rapping skeleton in the funniest Rush song count?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2015 at 21:23
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Hot Rat '69 Hot Rat '69 wrote:

What about prog rock samples used in hip-hop songs?

 
How would I ever know If I am completely uninterested in finding out? Not a fan of the genre at all.


What a nasty, completely unnecessary comment..
 
Friend, you've obviously never heard nasty if that's what you think you've just read.
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2015 at 20:23
Yes Nass and Mobb Deep used great instrumentals, they were underground. Mobb Deep - Survival Of The Fittest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIq4UTgqDAc
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2015 at 20:16
...and with that this thread gets nominated for transportation to "Just For Fun". 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2015 at 20:14
I'm here freestyling with my friend Marcus
He wrecks the synth like Keith on Tarkus
I'm playing my guitar dancing like a frog
25/8 time sig, this is hip-hop prog 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2015 at 19:50
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2015 at 19:39
Hip-hop rubs some people the wrong way. It's not my favorite genre but I appreciate some of it.

Does Holger Czukay's "sampling" in later Can (pre-'80) count? Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2015 at 19:27
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Hot Rat '69 Hot Rat '69 wrote:

What about prog rock samples used in hip-hop songs?

 
How would I ever know If I am completely uninterested in finding out? Not a fan of the genre at all.


What a nasty, completely unnecessary comment..
Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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