Rolling Stone's Top 50 Prog Albums

rogerthat wrote: Aha, shifting goalposts cleverly to mk-i?  Monsieur, the question was about whether the American influences on mk-ii Renaissance can really precede their British influences.   That the discussion was about mk-ii is clear from the fact that the RS article discussed Ashes are Burning.   If you actually have any quote from Dunford or Camp or even Tout that says that they were influenced more by American music than British music, please do share, will be happy to learn something new.  Else, kindly shut the f up and shove your cleverer-than-thou attitude up your arse

LOL! Well, I think that you have finally to start to carefuly listening to the music about which you know a lot of details and than you will hear who influenced ALL those female fronted bands at that early 70s English psych-folk scene where Renaissaince undoubtedly belonged in their early phase.

(videos are just for a decor)

 

Edited by Svetonio - June 21 2015 at 08:52

SteveG wrote:

SteveG wrote: ^Doc, I'm not that naïve to further engage you in this conversation, as that would be another form of diversion from the true topic on hand, RS Magazine, which I will address in a time and place of my convenience. (I'm currently travelling.)   When I'm done posting my response, you can mercilessly deconstruct it at your leisure.   Oh, I almost forgot...   Good luck.

geez sorry about the firestorm my comments set off before I left for the weekend.  I, and later Roger, were only musing that RENAISSANCE, this very English sounding band, was being cited as primarily influenced by two SF scene groups, with a bone being thrown to the more likely British influences almost as an afterthought.  I was noting it in support of my long standing thesis that RS simply had nary a kind word for "obscure" British bands, even those well known in their homeland, while falling gleefully at the feet of the most obscure American bands.  I stll remember another great line from the Record Guide 1st Edition, about CURVED AIR, that they were at their best, which was seldom, when mimicking It's a Beautiful Day and Jefferson Airplane.  After all, they had a violinist and so did IABD, and IADB came first, right?  I am not even a fan of CURVED AIR, but come on!  The greatest single piece they ever did was "METAMORPHOSIS", which doesn't sound one bit like those bands!

Strange for a magazine named after a very popular british band to have so much disain towards bands from that country (well, I have always assumed it was named after that band, perhaps I'm mistaken... perhaps it's named after the Bob Dylan song... or something else altogether). And perhaps it's my lack of knowledge towards some bands, but I am of the opinion that Britain is absolutley stronger as far as rock bands go... at least since the 60's (though perhaps lately that perception has been greatly dimminished).

Great list indeed - with a non-prog [psychedelic rock] album on the top of everything but who cares? even the prog fans dont care about the historical facts anymore.... edit: its nice to see RPI stuff on the list, though.

Edited by Komandant Shamal - June 22 2015 at 08:40

^ Have you been reading that banal NME book by Nick Logon again?

Raff wrote: Just found this link on the ProgEars forum: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/50-greatest-prog-rock-albums-of-all-time-20150617  I know RS has a very bad reputation (in most cases deservedly so) with prog fans, but this list contains some interesting choices besides the usual suspects, and the mini-reviews of each album are rather well done. Personally, while there's no denying its ground-breaking impact, I don't particularly agree with DSOTM as #1 - though the presence of three King Crimson albums in the list almost makes up for it. Hope this is the correct location for this one (rather than the Top 10 and Lists). If not, feel free to move it!

I think you're right in regards to the post-rock and Indie crowd. Godspeed may be on PA, but the vast quantity of their fan base has absolutely no interest in prog rock.

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: Guldbamsen wrote: I think you're right in regards to the post-rock and Indie crowd. Godspeed may be on PA, but the vast quantity of their fan base has absolutely no interest in prog rock. Surely you jest? They have complete and fulfilling lives without Suppers Ready?