Why Punk?

I think punk became quickly obsolete once experimental punk and no-wave started showing up

moosehead wrote: Meltdowner wrote: ^^ Young people don't move these days   Not a good joke. Hip hop movement started way back in the 70s'

I was pointing for Svetonio's post, but seriously what major movement appeared in the last 20 years?

moosehead wrote: Svetonio wrote: SteveG wrote: The perceived enemy of progressive rock, what caused the rise of punk rock in the seventies and why does its short reign still resonate today? In my opinion, the music industry was looking for the "next big thing" so they were repackaged already existed U.S. garage rock and British pub-rock, called it "punk", somehow they managed to capture it on vinyl (what wasn't easy to find the band who could recording something in studio that to be listenable because mostly of those 70s garage rock / pub-rock bands were "great" live in the bars /pubs and in small underground venues but terrible in the studio) and that's it. On other side, a very important moment for the music industry was that that the punk music, unlike Prog and 70s Rock, was cheap to record, but the Punk music LPs and singles weren't cheaper for the buyers; punk was created by the industry as an ideal field for exploitation, actually. However, Punk was too simple to figure out, you know, "you've got an idea - make a song and play", and that quickly become boring even for the punk-rockers themselfs, so the bands with some talent were changed the music direction into more artistic post-punk. Also, Punk was a (sh*t) way of life that disappeared along with its protagonists who get older or, in worst cases, died by heroin overdose. Anyway, the fact is that the Punk was the last big movement of youth.   Uhm no? have you ever heard of something called Hip-Hop. A youth movement that began because they couldn't even afford their own instruments to play.

I had in mind the youth movement that was based on rock.

^^ Young people don't move these days

SteveG wrote: The perceived enemy of progressive rock, what caused the rise of punk rock in the seventies and why does its short reign still resonate today?

In my opinion, the music industry was looking for the "next big thing" so they were repackaged already existed U.S. garage rock and British pub-rock, called it "punk", somehow they managed to capture it on vinyl (what wasn't easy to find the band who could recording something in studio that to be listenable because mostly of those 70s garage rock / pub-rock bands were "great" live in the bars /pubs and in small underground venues but terrible in the studio) and that's it. On other side, a very important moment for the music industry was that that the punk music, unlike Prog and 70s Rock, was cheap to record, but the Punk music LPs and singles weren't cheaper for the buyers; punk was created by the industry as an ideal field for exploitation, actually.
However, Punk was too simple to figure out, you know, "you've got an idea - make a song and play", and that quickly become boring even for the punk-rockers themselfs, so the bands with some talent were changed the music direction into more artistic post-punk. Also, Punk was a (sh*t) way of life that disappeared along with its protagonists who get older or, in worst cases, died by heroin overdose.

Anyway, the fact is that the Punk was the last big movement of youth.

Edited by Svetonio - August 26 2015 at 15:24

I think artists like Patti Smith get overlooked and her recordings still stand out.

Don't know much about punk but all I know is people got fed up of 20 minute long songs. Who knew? On another note Punk had a lot to do with the image as well. (Looking and living the punk lifestyle) 

Edited by moosehead - August 26 2015 at 15:09

Punk might not have invented the entire "do-it-yourself" ethos of setting up your entire independent infrastructure of underground record labels, concert venues etc. separate from the mainstream music industry, but it certainly popularized that approach to doing things in music back in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

Then there's the fact that punk seems to function as a "cultural movement" first and a genre of music second. Here in Denmark, the hardcore punk music scene seems to have functioned as a meeting nexus and common social glue for people with far-left political loyalties. To the point that one of the first things that our newly elected right-wing government did after inauguration was to declare special emergency police action against crusties. (for vandalism rather than squatting though)


Edited by Toaster Mantis - August 26 2015 at 14:40