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Posted: November 07 2015 at 16:39
Meltdowner wrote:
emigre80 wrote:
I always think of prog as kind of urban music, not really compatible with rural areas and long car rides. Although I do listen to prog while in the car.
I think it's the best kind of music for long car rides, it sure seems much shorter when I play some Prog epics
agreed, and I have about a 40 minute ride to work, so that's two sides of TFTO - but it's not Bruce Springsteen, which I what I think of when I think of music and cars rather than music in cars.
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Posted: November 07 2015 at 16:31
The Dark Elf wrote:
DDPascalDD wrote:
You can see so many people in Holland riding on the bike, listening to music with earphones and there are quite some rock fams too, sadly rarely a prog fan...
How can you tell what they're listening to if they have earphones/earbuds?
Well you can't know directly of coarse but you can know when people listen to rock in general, and that's quite some at least of my age.
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Posted: November 07 2015 at 16:30
emigre80 wrote:
I always think of prog as kind of urban music, not really compatible with rural areas and long car rides. Although I do listen to prog while in the car.
I think it's the best kind of music for long car rides, it sure seems much shorter when I play some Prog epics
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Posted: November 07 2015 at 16:20
I always think of prog as kind of urban music, not really compatible with rural areas and long car rides. Although I do listen to prog while in the car.
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Posted: November 07 2015 at 16:13
DDPascalDD wrote:
You can see so many people in Holland riding on the bike, listening to music with earphones and there are quite some rock fams too, sadly rarely a prog fan...
How can you tell what they're listening to if they have earphones/earbuds?
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Posted: November 07 2015 at 16:10
You can see so many people in Holland riding on the bike, listening to music with earphones and there are quite some rock fams too, sadly rarely a prog fan...
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Posted: November 07 2015 at 15:59
DDPascalDD wrote:
I'm always really interested in such theories! Though this seems a little too far to me... I think there aren't many prog songs about cars. Maybe because cars was a often used topic in pop songs, prog bands didn't want to write about it. Also it seems like a subject which isn't that interesting if you want to give a certain message with a song.
That's cool that you're in the Netherlands, a place which was horrified by car accidents and pedestrian deaths, especially of children, fought back against cars, and built amazing bike-friendly pedestrian-friendly infrastructure.
Do people listen to rock when riding bikes? I found that when I was living in Europe and often taking trains, the music I wanted to hear was techno. So much of German techno seemed designed for listening on a train - futuristic, moving to the rhythms of travel by train...
I'll wager you are right - we'll find that mainstream, more traditional rock and roll, particularly American r&r, is more concerned with the car. I think that's why American critics tended to be wary of European rock forms such as prog. US critics had such a conservative view of what rock should be, and thought it shouldn't stray too far from its 'roots' (Elvis, Chuck Berry, etc.). That's why they loved Bob Seger and ridiculed Jethro Tull and Yes. But since rock didn't originate in Europe, Europeans felt much freer to play with it, innovate and be creative. That is both why European rock (e.g. the various British Invasions) was so exciting, but also why places like the UK were so quick to abandon rock and move on to new musical forms, or to stretch rock even further into dance and rave forms...
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Posted: November 07 2015 at 15:45
I'm always really interested in such theories! Though this seems a little too far to me... I think there aren't many prog songs about cars. Maybe because cars was a often used topic in pop songs, prog bands didn't want to write about it. Also it seems like a subject which isn't that interesting if you want to give a certain message with a song.
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Posted: November 07 2015 at 15:34
Not sure if anyone else ever theorized this before, but it seems to me that the ascendance of rock and roll and cars kind of went hand in hand. In fact, what many consider to be the very first rock and roll song ("Rocket 88") was about a car. The rebelliousness of teenagers with their first cars (or motorcycles) was soundtracked by this new musical form. Not only were so many songs *about* cars ("Baby you can drive my car," "Round round get around, I get around"), but rock's *function* - the propulsive rhythms and energy - seemed to mirror the automobile, and was designed to be listened and experienced while in the car. (That's why Queen's "I'm in Love with My Car" might be my favorite song ever ;-)
[I'd also argue that rock's demise is also the demise of the car...]
Okay, enough of that backstory. How about prog? Are there many prog tracks about cars, driving, life in the fast lane, dark desert highways, highways to hell, Trans Ams, Maseratis, Cadillacs,James Dean, the open road, running on empty, trucking, crusing on a motorcyle, magic buses, crosstown traffic and freeway jams, racing down the street, making out in the backseat?...
I can think of a few. Kraftwerk's Autobahn, Rush's Red Barchetta, Neu!'s Hallogallo (their motorik beat was meant to soundtrack driving a car), Radiohead's Airbag, the aforementioned Queen's I'm in Love with My Car.
What else am I missing? Any thoughts on the relationship between cars and rock? And how does prog fit in?
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