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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34097 |
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whats differs from liberal and libertarian?
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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That also happens when your universities stop being centers for discussion and thinking and become expensive hotels with a sports team attached to them.
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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No your not dumb at all. They are not liberals at all. Their outlook is authoritarian which is the opposite. I expect THEY regard temselves as liberal. They are part of whats wrong with the world right now. IMO. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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^You couldn't have said it better
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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being from the USA myself I know what you mean. I just told Friede that people in the USA feel liberal when they say "F*** the politicians"
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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For these people, being "liberal" is not having a set of beliefs but just a tag they can wear
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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And I come to expect religious nuts getting crazy over "wars on Christmas" and such but it's sad and worrying when the ones getting all foamy on the mouth are supposedly "liberal" college students.
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*frinspar* ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2008 Location: Arizona Status: Offline Points: 463 |
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As always, I blame the parents first. This is the first of the spoiled, unrealistic "everyone gets a trophy" generations which we now have to contend with. They've been taught that the world favors them and that everything should be fair and how they demand things to be so they don't have to deal with icky, bad things. They're all finally of the age where their voices can be heard. Blech.
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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^Well that outrage comes from the (supposedly) other end of the spectrum (the religious loonies) but it's basically the same just with a different perspective: people getting upset about supposed offenses to entire groups, so that they feel morally superior.
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Indeed. Our current biggest outrage is the color of a coffee cup. It's hard not to feel that this society is ultimately doomed. |
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Here in the US sadly you get to call yourself liberal if you can get sufficiently upset about something and post it on youtube or twitter these days...
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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To quote from Wikipedia:
LiberalismFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about the ideology of liberalism. For local differences in its meaning, see Liberalism by country.
"Liberals" redirects here. For other uses, see Liberal (disambiguation).
Now where is any of this in the example, genuine or faux? |
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TeleStrat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 27 2014 Location: Norwalk, CA Status: Offline Points: 9319 |
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^^^ That's exactly what I mean. But I see this happening in schools rather than in the home.
I had to edit to add a ^ Edited by TeleStrat - November 10 2015 at 11:25 |
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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Maybe I am dumb, but I don't see any liberalism in this, neither genuine nor faux. ![]() |
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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^Those are terrible. Those are the worst. But some "liberals" aren't much better when they act like it's their way or no way at all. It's ridiculous that "liberals" restrain free speech. True liberals will defend the right of people to express themselves above their self-entitlement and their need to feel good about their privileges (these are college students in an expensive University. They are privileged).
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20702 |
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Hmm...programmed...You mean also like the right wing Bible thumpers who love god and country and say you must also or you are a godless liberal..? ![]() |
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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TeleStrat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 27 2014 Location: Norwalk, CA Status: Offline Points: 9319 |
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BTW, I completely agree with Blacksword's statement. I'm just as tired of the far left as I am of the far right.
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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It's disgusting. It's sad to be associated with these completely un-liberal people who just use that term to feel good about themselves for being upset about everything and feeling entitled to everything. The same when "liberals" who prefer to stop free speech because it might offend someone. I am not that type.
These are just young selfish idiots who use different tactics to justify their selfishness.
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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"an email sent by Professor Erika Christakis, which suggested that people should feel free to wear culturally insensitive costumes on Halloween." That's a total mischaracterization of her e-mail. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-new-intolerance-of-student-activism-at-yale/414810/ “We simply ask that our existences not be invalidated on campus,” the letter says, catastrophizing. Please read this slowly, and let it soak in that there are people that actually feel that their existence is invalidated by a Halloween costume. |
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TeleStrat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 27 2014 Location: Norwalk, CA Status: Offline Points: 9319 |
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I believe this type of thinking is put into children's heads as early as elementary school.
This new form of liberalism doesn't come from the students, it comes from school boards and school districts. By the time they get to college most of them are completely programmed. |
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