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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38719 |
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So, I finished watching season/ series one of Westworld, and I found it very good. It has more depth than the film version, and I like series/ films/ novels that have central ethical questions. I'm now looking forward to season 2.
To those who like Westworld, I would suggest checking out the series Real Humans (which was remade as Humans). I decided to watch Westworld after listening to the Sam Harris with Paul Bloom podcast conversation, Abusing Dolores. https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/abusing-Dolores A.I. is an interesting topic. Edited by Logan - February 15 2017 at 18:41 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38719 |
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Emerald City is one I want to watch now..
Incidentally, I did watch Stranger Things last month, and I absolutely loved it. Partially it was that 80s aesthetic and the soundtrack that hooked me. I hadn't been that impressed with Netflix produced stuff, but that one was great. Speaking of Netflix produced things, I wasn't so keen on their series of Black Mirror (preferring the Channel 4 ones), but I did like the last episode a lot, although it could have been tighter. I actually discovered lots of great for me stuff since that initial post (I think I did some other similar polls which mentioned more). So to make a new list off the top of my head while rementioning some others, faves, no matter how loosely have been: Utopia Les Revenants (The Returned) Real Humans Black Mirror Dead Set In the Flesh Psychoville Inside No. 9 League of Gentlemen (relatively old show, but it sort of counts and I only finished watching it in the last couple of years) Garth Merenghi's Darkplace Torchwood Children of Earth and to a lesser extent Miracle Day Doctor Who's Heaven Sent (and Face the Raven) which nicely counts for this SF/ fantasy/ horror kind of topic. And I enjoyed the 4400. If Dexter were fantasy/ SF, or generally the fantastic, which it is not, that is another dark one I only got around to last year and liked it a lot (although I did stop after a few seasons). I also during that period, I think, finally watched all of the episodes of Blake's 7 (and it can be very dark SF). What a great classic. Also Chocky. Both shows that I'd seen as a kid, but never all of the episodes. These days I find myself following "real" science the most, but I'll always have a special place in my heart for science fiction. Partially because I like how SF speculates upon potential ramifications of science. Had I not been lazy when it came to learning the language of mathematics I would have studied science much more. Did anyone else see the Inside No. 9 Christmas special? I wouldn't spoil it for anyone, but I think that Darkplace fans (as well as general fans of Reece Shearsmith and Steve Pemberton obviously) might find it interesting. It's not my fave Inside No. 9 episode, but there isn't a lot of creepy Christmas fare. Edited by Logan - January 04 2017 at 12:41 |
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65822 |
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Emerald City looks interesting, certainly a darker take on Oz. It was cancelled back in '14 but it looks like it's back on. ![]() ![]() |
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20701 |
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The ones I have enjoyed over the last year and some are still currently running....
American Horror Story Westworld Falling Water Channel Zero:Candle Cove Penny Dreadful
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38719 |
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I love Akira; seen it many times over the years. I also like Cowboy Bebop, Paprika and I do indeed know Neon Genesis Evangelion. The others I will definitely be looking into. Thanks. Mostly since the kids were born when it comes to anime it's been watching Studio Ghibli.
Side-note: In live action SF films from Japan, a favourite of mine is the 20th Century Boys trilogy (but it's not one I'd generally recommend as I've never known anyone but me that was interested in it). |
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MillsLayne ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2010 Location: East Bay, CA Status: Offline Points: 2504 |
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Since I've been bingeing on anime as of late, I'll leave you with some suggestions:
Claymore (medieval setting with demons) Darker Than Black (agents with unique powers, noir) Speed Grapher (similar to DtB) Death Note Elfen Lied Neon Genesis Evangelion (you probably already know what this is ![]() Paprika (movie, psychological) Psycho-Pass (can't recommend this enough, cyber punk/police) Knights of Sidonia Steins;Gate (again, can't recommend this one enough) Attack On Titan (giants who relentlessly attack a walled city and eat people) Since you're already familiar with some anime, I'm assuming you're already aware of Cowboy Bebop and Akira? If not, get on it. ![]() |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38719 |
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And another Canadian series, or co-production, Lexx (was on a Lexx forum before I started posting here -- interesting how popular acts in PA such as Can, Cardiacs, Residents, Zappa, and Beefheart were there, but then it was an oddball show).
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Dollhouse (a Joss Whedon series) was one of my favorites. I also liked the Canadian series Continuum.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38719 |
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I've heard of that, looks good. Thanks, Wirebender. The last series I finished was a BBC show, though not SF or fantasy called Broadchurch -- very good mystery.
As for Carnivale, seen it and liked it. I have had Stranger Things on my Netflix list for quite some time, and keep on meaning to watch it. Also want to see Westworld -- loved the film. I think some of my my favourites that have a dark SF or fantasy (and horror) vein that I've seen over the last few years have been Les Revenants, Utopia, Black Mirror, Real Humans, Psychoville, Inside No. 9, Misfits, and In the Flesh. Pus various surreal dark comedies which have fantasy and horror elements. There will be a third season/series of Inside No. 9 (horror comedy) starting with a Christmas special (The Devil of Christmas) on December 27th. And a Doctor Who Christmas special, which I don't expect to be as dark as Doctor Who's "Heaven Sent" or Torchwood's Children of Earth or Miracle Day. ;) |
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My wife and I just started watching JONATHAN STRANGE AND MR NORRELL. It's a BBC series set in Victorian times.
Strong acting and full of atmosphere.
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12993 |
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Really looking forward to Westworld.
Has nobody mentioned the Netflix-show Stranger Things yet - or am I blind? Probably my all-time favorite series is Carnivale (two seasons on HBO) Feels like it was specifically made for someone like myself. Dark, slow, brooding and magic with a kind of "Lynchian dreamlogic" (but never nonsensical) and an uncomfortably unpredictable evil. Carnivāle earned its following through stunning visuals, and a musical storytelling method that was both subtle and brilliant. The music of Carnivāle is a show in and unto itself, with character themes based on ethnic instruments, and subtle clues as to character relationships through similarities in musical sounds. The show portrayed, not only the struggle of characters, but through the use of the Knights Templar, Tarot, nuclear tests, and even genealogical character links and biographies developed before the show even began production, Carnivāle became a study of the mythology of Good-vs-Evil. Daniel Knauf told critics of the show that Carnivāle was intended to be demanding with a lot of subtext, and admitted that you may not understand everything that goes on but it does make a certain sense. Edit: Although not all that bad - it does look like those who made the trailer for the first season is trying to sell Carnivale as some sort of magic-realism-Hollywood-blockbuster-epic, but its closer to an arthouse movie really.
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^ Yeah looks worth catching.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Did anyone catch the opening episode of Westworld?
It certainly hints at being dark and as a concept AI has moved on considerably since 1973 so there could be enough depth in it to sustain a TV series but whether the theme-park setting has enough breadth is another question. The script and acting is far better than the previous attempt to bring Michael Crichton 1973 film to the small screen (even if Sir Anthony Hopkins seems to have turned-up, recited the script and gone home, but then when he does that he still turns in still a vastly superior performance than most actors these days)
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38719 |
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I'll definitely be watching the shows you've mentioned. Getting a personal letter is amazing. Very jealous. There's no writer who has drawn me in more than him. |
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20701 |
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Thanks for the heads up....I'll look into Utopia and the other ones. ![]() ps: I'm also a big P K Dick fan.....have a personal letter from him before he passed away.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38719 |
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There's so much great stuff to watch these days, and of course with the internet, PVRs, more specialty stations, and other services its become easier to find things and watch "on demand". Utopia is fantastic, made by Channel 4 in England, that and Black Mirror were recommended to me in a British thread I made here some years ago. The violence can be really off-putting, though. I've introduced it to a few guests at my house and half loved it, while the other half could not stomach it. Here the Space channel have shown it, as well as all the others I mentioned, but it's also available online (broadband recommended). I watch quite a bit at places such as Dailymotion (which would be a good name for a high fibre cereal).
Utopia's basic premise concerns overpopulation. In The Flesh is about rehabilitated zombies, and how accepting society is of these people. Real Humans, like In the Flesh, deals with marginalization, in this case it's androids and there are questions about how accepting society should be of them. |
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20701 |
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Except for Les Revenants....I'm not sure I'm familiar with Utopia, In The Flesh , and Real Humans. There are more and more 'weird' tv shows all the time....it's hard to keep up with all of them. I started watching Orphan Black a while back and now I'm a season or two behind; the same thing happened with Game of Thrones....stopped watching because I didn't have the time with all the other things I was following. I used to watch Helix also but I think it was canceled. I sometimes will watch an episode of the comic book shows like Flash, Arrow, Supergirl, Marvels Shield...etc. The weird ones I'm currently watching are: The Magicians Grimm Supernatural Lost Girl Bitten The Walking Dead I also watch some prime time shows like The Blacklist, Elementary, and Person Of Interest. |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38719 |
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Thanks, Doug, am now looking into those. Penny Dreadful's macabre storytelling seems promising to me (sounds quirky too), and The Expanse for having an interesting central mystery. The sense of mystery and leaving things to the viewer's imagination is important to me. It's the way the philosophical implications are handled that commonly determines the effectiveness of a sci-fi show, and that's one reason why I like dystopian speculative fiction so much. I have also realized that I like sci-fi/ish soaps quite a bit, which can be hokey. Les revenants (an existential undead tale) is quite remarkable for its bleak atmosphere and utter lack of humour, whereas the violent Utopia has a dark sense of humour, In the Flesh (another undead tale) is angsty, and Real Humans can be kitschy, funny and violent. One thing I commonly find with my favourites too is that existentialist explorations are quite pronounced, which reflects on my own unsurity of being. I often go for tales of alienation, of individuals who have become marginalized... I most whatever I watch, not just an interesting plot but deep and often ambiguous characterization is found Often there's internal as well as external conflict, but I suppose that's common to most drama, that's a Writing 101 thing after all.
A show that I didn't mention that can be very dark in a black comedy way is Misfits -- it's a sort of superantihero type show. I used to like it a lot -- can be very juvenile. People developed various superpowers because of a lightning storm and some of those powers can be quite hilarious, disturbing and tragic, such as Lactokinesis, the power to manipulate dairy based products, a power to cause genital erosion, hypnotic breasts, and permanent tortoise mimicry. Edited by Logan - March 15 2016 at 18:54 |
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20701 |
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Current favorite is 'The Magicians ' on sy-fy channel...based on the series of books by Grossman.
I also really like 'Penny Dreadful' which will be back on soon for season 2. Both are excellent imo. I forgot to mention 'The Expanse'.....hard core sci-fi about future humans expanding into the solar system and there is a central missing persons mystery going on.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38719 |
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Reviving this rather than starting a new topic, think I moved off site before reading all the comments. I'm more into live action dramas and I generally prefer serials and mini-series. I watched the remake of Battlestar Galactica religiously when it came out, and despite not generally liking such adaptations, that re-imagined version was very good. It was a grower. Will look into Serial Experiments Lain and Texhnolyze. I caught some of Under the Dome when it was showing on TV here, but kept forgetting about it.
I just finished watching both seasons/series of the Swedish robot drama, Real Humans (Äkta människor) which came out in 2012. Excellent show, but sadly, like several other serials I mentioned in my first post, it only lasted two seasons/series, and was left on a cliffhanger. There was a US/UK co-production called Humans that came out last year called Humans which I had intended to watch (Neil Maskell who plays Arby in Channel 4s Utopia is in it), but then I learned that it was based on the Swedish show, and I tend not to go for re-makes (though multiple novel adaptations are fine). Was very upset that Utopia and In the Flesh were not renewed past series two, and hope that there will be a third series of Les revenants, though I felt that at least that concluded in quite a satisfactory way. Doctor Who's Face the Raven and Heaven Sent (I adored Heaven Sent) also gave me that dark dramatic feel that I love. Will be watching the Japanese television drama of Never Let Me Go with my wife -- one of my favourite books and the film version was well done. Anyway, keep the recommendations coming (especially if you know and like the shows I have listed). |
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