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Jeffro

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Posted: October 04 2016 at 07:50

You can be a Trekker. We always have room for more. Big smile

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Posted: October 04 2016 at 07:41

The term "freak" was widely used in the UK as far as I know especially in the post-hippie/pre-punk era of the 70s. Those with long hair were either freaks, greasers (bikers), or hippies and while attire wasn't universal certainly a greatcoat or long denim coat (with or without sheepskin collar) would generally separate you from an Afghan wearing hippie who reeked of patchouli oil (or worse if his coat ever got wet) or a leather-clad biker drenched in Duckhams 20/50 and stale beer. While few would ever risk using the term hippie towards a biker, it was often used as a disparaging term for freaks by skins, suedes and smoothies.

This lot however, were hippie-freaks:

Edited by Dean - October 04 2016 at 08:14

What?

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Posted: October 04 2016 at 07:27

There are no tribes today anyway DaveSax, so what are you worried about? (apart from being chased by skinheads...)

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Posted: October 04 2016 at 07:15

Thats interesting, in the early to mid 70s in the US, if you were 'counter culture', you called yourself a "freak".
As in; "How was the party? ... It was great, they were all freaks", etc.
or
"I'm not going to that concert, there won't be any freaks there".

I didn't know that this term was used elsewhere.

Edited by js (Easy Money) - October 04 2016 at 08:41

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Posted: October 04 2016 at 07:03

No, I don't like the term "hippie".

I am a freak. ;-)

I don't know about a lot of people here, but in my hairier days here in the UK, I automatically got called a "hippie" / "hippy". I dislike the term intensely. To me, hippies were not about sixties counterculture but a manufactured phenomenon who were just as trapped by convention and expectation as the society they were railing against. Supposedly.

Becoming a "hippie" meant, in my opinion, taking on a selection of pre-chewed views without thought. Or, given most "hippies" I've met, choice. I am yet to meet a hippie who can put an argument forwards for GM crops, nuclear power or fracking. If you're a hippie, you have to believe in such stuff - or you ain't a hippie. Or you learn to come up with some idiotic guff to counter it, such as "Fracking causes cancer" or "eating meat makes you agressive".

So I'll be a freak, please, if no one minds. Or even a "prog rocker", who used to be distinguishable in the 70's by their attire of army greatcoat and benny hat.

Mung beans and levitating along ley lines ? I'll pass, thank you.

Edited by Davesax1965 - October 04 2016 at 07:04

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Jeffro Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: March 29 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2201	Posted: October 04 2016 at 07:50
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Dean Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575	Posted: October 04 2016 at 07:41
	The term "freak" was widely used in the UK as far as I know especially in the post-hippie/pre-punk era of the 70s. Those with long hair were either freaks, greasers (bikers), or hippies and while attire wasn't universal certainly a greatcoat or long denim coat (with or without sheepskin collar) would generally separate you from an Afghan wearing hippie who reeked of patchouli oil (or worse if his coat ever got wet) or a leather-clad biker drenched in Duckhams 20/50 and stale beer. While few would ever risk using the term hippie towards a biker, it was often used as a disparaging term for freaks by skins, suedes and smoothies. This lot however, were hippie-freaks: Edited by Dean - October 04 2016 at 08:14
	What?

Flight123 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 01 2010 Location: Sohar, Oman Status: Offline Points: 1399	Posted: October 04 2016 at 07:27
	There are no tribes today anyway DaveSax, so what are you worried about? (apart from being chased by skinheads...)

Easy Money Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10742	Posted: October 04 2016 at 07:15
	Thats interesting, in the early to mid 70s in the US, if you were 'counter culture', you called yourself a "freak". As in; "How was the party? ... It was great, they were all freaks", etc. or "I'm not going to that concert, there won't be any freaks there". I didn't know that this term was used elsewhere. Edited by js (Easy Money) - October 04 2016 at 08:41

Davesax1965 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 23 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 2839	Posted: October 04 2016 at 07:03
	No, I don't like the term "hippie". I am a freak. ;-) I don't know about a lot of people here, but in my hairier days here in the UK, I automatically got called a "hippie" / "hippy". I dislike the term intensely. To me, hippies were not about sixties counterculture but a manufactured phenomenon who were just as trapped by convention and expectation as the society they were railing against. Supposedly. Becoming a "hippie" meant, in my opinion, taking on a selection of pre-chewed views without thought. Or, given most "hippies" I've met, choice. I am yet to meet a hippie who can put an argument forwards for GM crops, nuclear power or fracking. If you're a hippie, you have to believe in such stuff - or you ain't a hippie. Or you learn to come up with some idiotic guff to counter it, such as "Fracking causes cancer" or "eating meat makes you agressive". So I'll be a freak, please, if no one minds. Or even a "prog rocker", who used to be distinguishable in the 70's by their attire of army greatcoat and benny hat. Mung beans and levitating along ley lines ? I'll pass, thank you. Edited by Davesax1965 - October 04 2016 at 07:04