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Posted: October 05 2016 at 15:57
I don't have any problem with the term "hippie." I often use it to describe myself. I'll say, "I'm basically a hippie." It's a convenient way to explain (why I have) many of the dispositions that I do.
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Posted: October 04 2016 at 15:57
SteveG wrote:
Sometimes better discriptive tems are not available. I fell into the hippie classification but still felt different from that crowd.
Me too. I was quite different from the rest, so the "Hippie" term fell on me by default. However, I never really felt I was part of the "Hippie" crew though, nor of their ideas, specially the unreasonable goals they had.
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Posted: October 04 2016 at 13:56
My son (24 yr old) thins my wife and I are hippies. Even though she was born in 1964 and I was born in '58. So perhaps it's not a era thing so much as a lifestyle thing. Although neither of us dresses the part or lives in a commune or are vegetarians or march in protests or listen to Bob Dylan. At best we are supporters of freedom of choice when it comes to deciding what's best for ourselves with regards to trendy chemical amusement aides. Maybe our relaxed attitude towards most things 'uptight' makes us hippies.
Do I mind being called a hippy??
Hell no !
As my father used to say... "You can call me anything you want, just don't call me late for dinner."
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Posted: October 04 2016 at 13:16
"Why'd the short hair cross the road? Because someone told him to. Why'd the longhair cross the road? Because someone told him not to." - The Firesign Theatre
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Posted: October 04 2016 at 12:36
A freak is what Frank Zappa self-identified as back in the mid-60s also in opposition to the notion of a hippie. I can't speak further about those days, since I was too young. I did live right across the way from the University of Buffalo, remember the bell bottoms, and managed to get caught in some tear gas when I was about 4 y.o.
There is no science behind the supposed dangers of genetically modified crops. Fracking, however, is indeed a source of man-made earthquakes here in Oklahoma.
A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now)
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Posted: October 04 2016 at 09:47
Davesax1965 wrote:
[....] I don't know about a lot of people here, but in my hairier days here in the UK, I automatically got called a "hippie" / "hippy". I dislike the term intensely. To me, hippies were not about sixties counterculture but a manufactured phenomenon who were just as trapped by convention and expectation as the society they were railing against. Supposedly.
[....]Or you learn to come up with some idiotic guff to counter it, such as "Fracking causes cancer" or "eating meat makes you agressive". [....]
Dave, Dave, I think we can take these issues more calmly. Mainly because: probably neither of us is old enough to have ever identified as a hippie - I mean, genuinely anyway - or even incurred criticism with any sticking power, on the basis of being one. Hippies, in late 1960s counterculture, most likely identified as such for the very reason that the term had been applied to them and they lovingly embraced it in order to absorb the negative publicity the establishment lobbed at them and their rejection of the current norms. Norms such as not caring about environment, and sending your kids into needless wars to die. The idea of reforming such practices, once and for all, is an idea that I hope (in the UK as well as US) is now - decades later - finally finding acceptance after progressives' umpteenth try at making it clear to the public that they indeed were important issues.
As for the acceptance that "nonconforming hippies" did or didn't find among their prospective brethren, I can't speak for that, but their reputation - at least in the U.S. -- was one of respecting all non-conformists.
If you still chafe against being called one, at least find solace in the fact that without the well known "hipness" whence the hippies got their appellation, Prog would never have become popular enough to make a blip on the music scene.
Finally, and for the record, fracking actually does introduce carcinogens into the environment. Whether that constitutes a direct cause of cancer, probably only disinterested government studies will ultimately reveal.
Edited by CapnBearbossa - October 04 2016 at 13:30
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Hi Timothy Leary - that's the point, I think. Original hippies were of a different mindset than what followed later - as the counterculture became commercialised.
Interesting to think that there are - as Flight123 says - no tribes any more.
Can I pass on being a Trekker for now, please ? ;-)
Flight 123 is wrong. The rainbow tribe is alive and well.
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Posted: October 04 2016 at 09:37
Hi Timothy Leary - that's the point, I think. Original hippies were of a different mindset than what followed later - as the counterculture became commercialised.
Interesting to think that there are - as Flight123 says - no tribes any more.
Can I pass on being a Trekker for now, please ? ;-)
I don't know about a lot of people here, but in my hairier days here in the UK, I automatically got called a "hippie" / "hippy". I dislike the term intensely. To me, hippies were not about sixties counterculture but a manufactured phenomenon who were just as trapped by convention and expectation as the society they were railing against. Supposedly.
Becoming a "hippie" meant, in my opinion, taking on a selection of pre-chewed views without thought. Or, given most "hippies" I've met, choice. I am yet to meet a hippie who can put an argument forwards for GM crops, nuclear power or fracking. If you're a hippie, you have to believe in such stuff - or you ain't a hippie. Or you learn to come up with some idiotic guff to counter it, such as "Fracking causes cancer" or "eating meat makes you agressive".
So I'll be a freak, please, if no one minds. Or even a "prog rocker", who used to be distinguishable in the 70's by their attire of army greatcoat and benny hat.
Mung beans and levitating along ley lines ? I'll pass, thank you.
Probably not many hippies on this site due to timing. The things you mention which you portray hippies arguing against did not even exist in the heyday of hippies. No GM foods, no fracking. There were no set rules to being a hippie.
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