God

YESESIS wrote: lazland wrote: YESESIS wrote: I definitely believe in God and have even been shown His existence(not that I think anyone on here will believe that).  Some of us might, but slightly more detail would be required, perhaps? One afternoon I was very depressed, and frustrated, and disbelieving(about God).. And I just started praying, really pouring my heart out to Him with a lot of emotion and I asked God to give me some kind of a sign that He really DOES exist. So then that very night I turned on the tv and BAM, there was a show right there all about proving the existence of God!!! And it was very convincing btw, it talked about how if future aliens or something came upon this planet uninhabited and found a watch on the ground they would examine it and know for sure that intelligent life had been here(there is no other explanation for a watch). Then it talked about how the human body(especially the brain) is literally TRILLIONS of times more sophisticated than a watch is. So anyway that was enough for me. I thanked God profusely and have been an absolute believer ever since. I even recorded the date June 18th, 2009.

I can't work out if you're entirely serious or not, but if you are then I respect the fact that it must have been quite amoment for you. It doesn't constitute proof though...

....However, recalling a nice anecdote from a friend of mine who I have known from childhood: She was feeling very low indeed, and had been attending a church with a friend for a few months attempting to find some meaning to everything. One day on a trip to a local garden centre with her young son, she thought to herself how much she'd like some red hot pokers for her garden, but couldn't afford them. Half an hour later, she arrived back home to find 10 red hot pokers laying on the doormat by her front door. She hadn't said anything to anyone either that day or in the preceeding weeks about RHP. That was strange enough, and she couldn't figure out how this astonishing coincidence could have come about. Later that night she was reading the bible in bed. She opened it at a random page and started reading. The passage (I couldn't tell you which) seemed very apt to her state state of mind, very reasuring and inspirational. She smiled at the coincidence, but thought little more about it, although was still somewhat confused by the red hotpokers on her doorstep! The next day she was on 'Second Life' A text box appeared at the bottom of the screen, randomnly displaying the exact same passage she had been reading in the bible the night before. I don't know Second Life, maybe it was a random message in a chat app (??) She tried to take a screen shot, but it wouldn't paste into any document. By now she was fairly freaked out by the string of coincidences.

It was a nice story, if a little creepy, but I remain a non believer.

I would assume that many if not most of the people who believe in God, whatever that means, implicitly define Him so that His existence, whatever that means, is true by definition.

I definitely believe in God and have even been shown His existence(not that I think anyone on here will believe that). 

In nothing you can have everything, science proved it. Nuff said!

Something For Nothing all the way

^hell yeah absolutely nothing

While my temptation -- not like the last temptation of Christ -- would be to merely pull a dictionary definition of God, I perceive God as a fabricated construct of man that can lead to, and be a part of, dangerous delusions.

I'm an agnostic atheist, by the way, although I'm quite a hard atheist, as I can't say with certainty that a god in some form could not exist, but I don't believe that God is a necessary assumption and see God as a persistent notion of stone age thinking when man understood much less about the cosmos. The vaguer the conception of god the more likely (I could posit), but one can, in a sense, define God into existence.

Condor, what does God mean to you?

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Edited by npjnpj - October 19 2017 at 15:26

A John Lennon song.

condor wrote: What does the word god mean to you??

Ten minutes plus of guitar insanity courtesy of Lobby Loyde, also known as Guitar OverDose.

Fortunately I was way way way too young to ever attend any of the (many) infamous live performances...