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Two already mentioned....Mike Holmes and Dave Gregory.
Not sure if he's underrated but Donald 'buck dharma' Roeser from BOC....at least I don't see him on many lists. |
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I'll go with Jean and say Roman Bunka of Embryo. Such a great guitar player, and he plays the oud too! And his first solo album "Dein Kopf ist ein schlafendes Auto" is one of the very best albums of the 80s and among my personal favorites. And no-one but Jean and me ever mentions him, which is an absolute shame. You guys should most definitely listen to the examples Jean gave in her post. Someone named Eddy Marron which is not a bad call either.
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^ Excellent choice! Andy Partridge is a bit underrated too IMO.
Good call on Justin Hayward back there; most often celebrated for his vocals and songwriting, but he could play some real tasty guitar. Ok, how 'bout Pye Hastings?
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Underrated? I don't know but I go with Dave Gregory.
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Thanks for sharing your views. Album sales are mostly irrelevant in my opinion since we are talking about individual musicians. Anyway, I suppose we all have our own opinions and criteria for what we consider under-appreciated. All the guitarists I mentioned are in my opinion more under appreciated than Steve Howe and Steve Hackett who I both feel are vastly under appreciated in non prog circles so now maybe you can get a sense for why I chose all of these guitarists.
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I don't think so. If people buy a Yes album with Trevor Rabin on it, this doesn't mean that they think he is a top guitarist. There are all kinds of other reasons to buy an album. Some people even might buy a Steve Hackett album because they like his songs and musical style rather than being interested in guitar skills.
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Or perhaps the term is best expressed as a function of album sales which is the only real and true measure of both appreciation and success....??
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PS: As I don't esteem Trevor Rabin very highly as a guitarist (and I'm not even saying this as a huge Yes fan), AFlowerKingCrimson has a point there - compared to him I certainly underappreciate that guy. (It's fun strengthening your nomination by disagreeing with it.
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That's the problem with a term such as "under-appreciated"; people interpret it differently and it is subjective in a weird way because it is not only about assessing one's own opinion but also about the opinions of other people. It may mean "almost unknown" but on the other hand if you think that Andy Latimer is the number one guitarist in prog then you could legitimately claim he is under-appreciated despite him being quite well appreciated overall... one could also argue that it is entirely different from "unknown" and rather means "better than people think" which is an empty statement as long as somebody is unknown so not many people think anything about this person. Some guitarists that for me a really among the very best in prog and generally are Adrian Belew, Fred Frith and Peter Wolbrandt (of Kraan). All of these are more or less well known and even well appreciated, but you'd probably find them on few top 10 lists of guitarists and they'd certainly feature on mine.
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Lifeson, Rabin and Barre have between them sold well in excess of 100 million albums. Rabin is also a fabulously successful composer of Hollywood film scores and the single "Lift me up" which Rabin co wrote with Squire for the album "Union" spent 6 weeks at the number one position on the billboard album rock tracks chart. Latimer also clocks up album sales in the multiple millions. Justin Hayward has recently been inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of fame. Jan Akkerman was well appreciated as a guitarist in the 70s and Focus even had commercial singles success completely outside the sphere of prog or fusion. Edited by flyingveepixie - November 26 2018 at 01:47 |
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Yep. Played with the Alan Parsons Project and was also on Jon Anderson's "Song of Seven" album.
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OP here, thanks, good stuff, keep it up!!
In honor of our own PresDoug, I'll nominate Helmut Köllen from Triumvirate!! Like Greg Lake, he was an excellent plectrum-style bassist who also excelled on 6-string!! Sadly, he passed away far too young. Doug once sent me Helmut's solo CD, which was excellent!! Thanks, Doug!!
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I would say both. I would probably list him myself but since he was already mentioned I'll just second it.
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Good call on Justin Hayward (from the Moody Blues) Also: Andy Latimer (Camel) Mike Holmes (IQ) Anthony Phillips (very early Genesis and solo) Jan Akkerman (Focus) Alan Morse (Spock's Beard) Rich Berends (Mastermind) Ed Wynne (Ozric Tentacles) Rich Williams/Kerry Livgren (Kansas) Alex Lifeson (Rush and yes I do feel he is underappreciated to an extent) Trevor Rabin (Doesn't get the respect he deserves from some yes fans so I throw him in here as well) Martin Barre (Jethro Tull) Roye Albrighton (RIP) (Nektar) Of course there are plenty of others as well. Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - October 21 2018 at 11:28 |
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