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S1973 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: March 20 2019 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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Meltdowner ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 25 2013 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 10281 |
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One album of the genre I've been returning the most is Todd Terje's sole album: |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38438 |
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That's true about TD already making music in a similar way, but I find they lack the same sense of nostalgia and sentimentality of 80s horror and sci-fi films, TV shows etc., which is part of the appeal of Synthwave. It's kind of schlocky. I'd heard TD's version of Stranger Things, and I think the concept is fun. I actually appreciate the ridiculous often. I definitely enjoy Cosmic Ground and some other ones that evoke an earlier era. I enjoy retro quite a bit, and if say, Kosmischer Läufer had been from the 70s/ 80s, I would still love the music. In that case, I appreciate the whole story and hoaxiness of it. It's one that I'm sure people have been fooled by. Jon Brooks and Klaus Moorlock I find interesting too. I'm not really a fan of SYnthwave as I don't tend to appreciate house music, and I'm not generally big on re-mixes. What interests me most here is music that evokes the feel of earlier Electronic music (be it 50s, 60s, 70s, early 80s...) and music that references certain cultural phenomena. I'm personally not interested in the ones that re-mix 80s pop and disco music (and add a beat), or really in simple re-mixes. The more interesting ones to me are those that have original music that sound of an earlier era, or update that sound but evoke a sense of nostalgia. I'm more impressed by someone who comes up with original music that sounds like it could have been released decades ago than someone who takes existing music and turns into a house dance track, for instance. That said, I have heard some interesting and creative sampling and there can be a real art to that and various editing processes, but most of it does not strike me as that "inspired". As for Tangerine Dream, I'm definitely most into the 70s period (I tend to return to the early half of the 70s ones the most, but grew to appreciate later releases). Generally, I also prefer to listen to music of its time, but I can appreciate and love music that evokes another time and "takes me back". While a comedy actor and having much comedy music, I love Matt Berry's retro music. This one would fit this topic as something of a tribute to earlier artists' music. Edited by Logan - June 18 2019 at 17:22 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I observed before. It can be much like that with music for me; immersed in experiencing the moment.
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S1973 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: March 20 2019 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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Edited by S1973 - June 18 2019 at 16:05 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38438 |
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Love that, thank you. ![]() An interesting retro case is "Klaus Morlock". https://klausmorlock.bandcamp.com/ |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I observed before. It can be much like that with music for me; immersed in experiencing the moment.
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Meltdowner ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 25 2013 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 10281 |
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I thought I'd mention Dallas Campell, he's here under PE (mainly for his more minimalist work). The list of synths he uses is simply impressive.
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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Synthwave is fantastic. I find myself listening to lots of vaporwave lately. Good stuff!
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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2dogs ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 03 2011 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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Actually I do like progressive electronic music right back to the 50s and 60s and earlier but was making the point that TD had already "combined House music with elements of 1980s Electronic music" before 2000. I like 70s TD copyists like Cosmic Ground when they get played on Krautrock-world web radio and that last "Sandtrommel" was a nice mixture of Kraftwerk, Cluster and TD but am a bit suspicious of retro, revival and fake musical movements in general and prefer to purchase the originals. It's also getting ridiculous when the people currently operating under the TD name actually cover a pastiche of an earlier incarnation of TD
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"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38438 |
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Well, I love Tangerine Dream (especially in the 70s), and am much more into "Progressive Electronic" (Kosmische and others) to Synthwave (as defined earlier, though I do like various Com Truise and some others considerably): Tangerine Dream, Igor Wakhevitch, Zanov, Franco Leprino, Klaus Schulze, Anna Sjalv Tredje, Edgar Froese, Bobby Beausoleil, Mort Garson, Cluster, Richard Pinhas, Kraftwerk, Ose, Heldon, Harmonia, White Noise, Automat, Conrad Schnitzler, Jean Guérin etc. I love. My favourite of the retro electronic acts so far is Kosmischer Läufer (that Civil Defence is Common Sense is most of that ilk in this thread). Kosmischer Läufer's The Secret Cosmic Music of the East German Olympic Program 1972-83 Vols 1-4 I think evokes/mimics Kosmische/ Berlin School of the era brilliantly. It would be an interesting one for someone into earlier Tangerine Dream and related music. But if you haven't explored a lot of Electronic music from the 70s to early 80s yet, then I might wait a bit on that one.
Progressive Electronic is one of my favourite categories in PA. |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I observed before. It can be much like that with music for me; immersed in experiencing the moment.
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2dogs ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 03 2011 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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^ I quite like it, but am thinking much of this genre would dilute my appreciation of TD and would rather explore them further.
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"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38438 |
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By the way, this trailer is what got me to explore Synthwave (love the film, by the way):
Com Truise's Data Kiss (full track in my first post) still remains my favourite piece that I have heard of that ilk. Edited by Logan - June 08 2019 at 15:01 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38438 |
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I'm no expert, but in one sense I'd say sure, and in another sense no. In one sense synthwave could be any music with synthesiser sounds, but as a genre it generally is considered to be a 2005 and up phenomenon that takes inspiration and is evocative and nostaglic of certain 80s music.. It's not in the way that I defined it in my first post using the rateyourmusic definition. 80s Tangerine Dream was a synthwave inspiration, as was Vangelis, Goblin, Jarre, Frizzi, Wendy Carlos and John Carpenter amongst others.. I guess that 90s TD sounds quite like late 80s TD, but I'd put music there more in the New Age camp than what I'd expect of Synthwave, such as retro-futuristic electronic music. Here's what wikipedia says:
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2dogs ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 03 2011 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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Oh is all this late 90s Tangerine Dream stuff I have been listening to lately Synthwave?
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"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38438 |
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I wrote a really long, researched post responding to each of the suggestions I hadn't yet responded to two weeks ago, but then I didn't post it as a certain dread took hold. That old fear of, am I going over the top, and will this add to a discussion, and also I'm no expert when it comes to such music. I tend to use the term retrowave now for what I meant by synthwave.
Quimper was very cool, and quite unexpected. Really enjoyed it. I loved that Civil Defence is Common Sense, and that is very much what I was hoping for in the retro-electronic realm. That is one that I am sure I had come across before at some time. That got me to explore more of his (it's Jon Brooks, who also went by King of Woolworths, Clesse, and I don't know how many aliases). This Jon Brooks I like a lot; Anyway he does a lot of good retro, from synthwave to earlier retro electronic music. various interesting music here from Kafe Kaput: https://cafekaput.bandcamp.com/ As for Donner, I enjoyed the first few tracks (kind of a mixed bag), I'm not that big on synthpop (Cristi's Plunder wasn't quite right for me either). The 80s retro that I was referring to tends to reference / be reminiscent of acts such as Goblin, Fabio Frizzo, John Carpenter, Tangerine Dream. For that reason most of what S973 posted is not doing it for me (I would describe that stuff as 80s pop dance remixes rather than what I meant by Synthwave as defined in my first post (liked his second track the most). I like music that is more reminiscent of the era rather than just remixes (think Kosmischer Läufer's approach to retro). I do also like music of the "plunderphonics" ilk. As for Modrigue, that's some "classic", sounding Synthwave, plus Darkwave as as I recall when I listened to it before. |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I observed before. It can be much like that with music for me; immersed in experiencing the moment.
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Well that was all mostly awful and not really either synthwave or retro electronic S1973... and so is this Edited by Saperlipopette! - June 08 2019 at 11:30 |
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Donner, a side-project from White Willow's Jacob-Holm Lupo: https://donner.bandcamp.com/releases
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Edited by S1973 - June 07 2019 at 09:19 |
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Edited by S1973 - April 29 2019 at 14:01 |
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