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Poll Question: Post a song now, vote later
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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

CFw0sw

This time, I relate to this Victorian joke very much, considering the song I shared here. LOL

oh man.. it wasn't that bad.. or even bad at all. Last poll I posted an absolute gem of a classic Carter Family gospel song with an especially fabulous modern interpretation of it.. and it got zero votes before I saved it from the inglorious fate and a bagel it didn't deserveLOL  Everyone is bringing their A games and honestly.. I haven't heard a bad song in either poll.  though some may connect and others may not.. what is interesting is to see what connects with who. 
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and nice to see others take this the same way I did... and vote not for what you suggested (that is a given) but voted what you liked of what others suggested. 

as the votes themselves are sort of immaterial..  ie.. there are no winners or losers. I'll take starting the next poll in a few days and keep the ball rolling.  i suspect I'm not the only one brimming with songs they'd like to suggest (as well hear what others come up with) and the quick fillerup today might have kept others out... the more the merrier. 

Yeah Nickie...  we might hang here at a prog forum..  but suspect I'm not alone that in actuality prog is only my 2nd or 3rd love musically and generally only for the best of it.. for much of it really is not that good. 

Music is not for the head or the intellect..that is what books are for.. but is  about emotions... it for the heart and soul. If not obvious by first couple of choices southern roots music is what I love.. the blues and in particular and has and always will be my favorite. Something I've really taken a interest in exposing Raff to.. and though it might have taken a decade she can dig a Wlllie Nelson gospel album and not run screaming into the night like she was prone to do early on hahah
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

My votes went to Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks, Earth Wind & Fire, and Charlie Daniels Band. A good mix to choose from.

yeah.. I'd say the variety on this one topped the first.  And while I have you.. great suggestion you had. Loved the song.. and the video as quite adorable. You really got me interested in her and exploring her music. 

Someone upstream mentioned it and when I was re-listening to her song earlier Raff mentioned the Bent Knee vocal similarity.  Once mentioned.. you can really hear it.
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Thanks for the comments on The Bears. I am surprised that no one mentioned the guitar solo. It was done by Fripp.


I mentioned the guitar solo!!!! Look up!

But I haven't voted yet!
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Thanks for the comments on The Bears. I am surprised that no one mentioned the guitar solo. It was done by Fripp.


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Thanks for the comments on The Bears. I am surprised that no one mentioned the guitar solo. It was done by Fripp.
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I did not want to vote for my own choice. Fortunately, there was little need to since this selection contains a lot of good songs (approximately a dozen), no bad ones, and Angelica is pretty.

1. Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks
2. Calexico
3. Beth N.C.

Bubbling just under: Frankie GtH and The Bears.
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This time, I relate to this Victorian joke very much, considering the song I shared here. LOL

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Angelica Garcia: powerful song, very good vocals (and very sexy girl!)

Ligety: minimalistic classical music

The Bears: very inspired music, great sound on the guitar

Beth Nielsen: wonderful voice and music based on the percussion


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Other impressions:

Calexico: mariachi melody, very good arrangement with trumpet

CD's Band. Oh, here we are in full jam session, the singer recalls me Steve Winwood, but with an hourse voice.

S. Forte: heavy metal and piano solo, very virtuosistic performance.
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My votes went to Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks, Earth Wind & Fire, and Charlie Daniels Band. A good mix to choose from.
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One thing is clear, at least those of us playing this game, we listen to a lot of other kinds of music than progressive.  Great idea to present these!
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I'll not vote for my adding, even if I think it is a standout song. If I were the poll/thread creator, I'd ban that option.

I've listened to them all. It was generally okay, sometimes fun, and sometimes boring.

My choices in order are:

1) Beth Nielson Chapman - Beyond the Blue (Awesome.)
2-) The Charlie Daniels Band - No Place to Go (A little bit too long, but great fun anyway.)
3-) Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks - Real Emotional Trash (Started a little bit bland but went on very very good.)




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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

the problem with most singer-songwriters is the music is completely secondary to the story

so for the third poll..  I whip it out..and bring it with authority.. and bring on a singer-songwriter with a brilliant though depressing story to tell.. that musically is off the charts.  And if it doesn't win the poll.. I'll have to reconsider some musical tastes here LOL

Yes, the challenge is to sing political lyrics with a beautiful melody and a worthy arrangement. If you want to be political, you have to do it in a non-direct way, with poetry. I have read from various places  Phil Ochs has considered himself a reporter, and Dylan said to him that he was only a journalist, not a musician. I can't dare to judge him, I know him too little. 

In Italy Guccini and De André have never been reporters or journalists who made music, but the seeds of real poets, and it is no coincidence Guccini is also a writer and a learned linguist. The song I put on by Guccini is certainly not one of his political songs, it shows a love story with her contradictions, her uncertainties. And in my opinion there is a beautiful melody, a very good classical arrangement and a great vocal performance.

In fact, a true singer-songwriter must have a philosophical and existential streak before even political, and everyone must know how to transfer his mood into music, I mean melancholy, or desecration or sarcasm or anger, etc.


  In reply to Micky's portion, that is why I chose a more musical piece of Ochs' over my other potential choice of his, which would have been "Rehearsals For Retirement."  Also, good points, James, re poetical/political.  Ochs did indeed do a large share of writing what he saw, but I think in this song, he waxes a bit more on the poetic side, although it still tells a tale (again to Micky's point).  I enjoyed the Guccini, even without the translation, which says a lot for the melodic sense and arrangements...and the voice is also an instrument (of which Phil Ochs despaired of losing, finally committing suicide over it, at least partially as a reason).


Yes, the song you have chosen got a very beautiful melody and a good classical arrangement. I have listened to two Ochs' albums and I think Ochs was able to write and sings wonderful melodical songs - even if my knowledge is limited.




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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

the problem with most singer-songwriters is the music is completely secondary to the story

so for the third poll..  I whip it out..and bring it with authority.. and bring on a singer-songwriter with a brilliant though depressing story to tell.. that musically is off the charts.  And if it doesn't win the poll.. I'll have to reconsider some musical tastes here LOL

Yes, the challenge is to sing political lyrics with a beautiful melody and a worthy arrangement. If you want to be political, you have to do it in a non-direct way, with poetry. I have read from various places  Phil Ochs has considered himself a reporter, and Dylan said to him that he was only a journalist, not a musician. I can't dare to judge him, I know him too little. 

In Italy Guccini and De André have never been reporters or journalists who made music, but the seeds of real poets, and it is no coincidence Guccini is also a writer and a learned linguist. The song I put on by Guccini is certainly not one of his political songs, it shows a love story with her contradictions, her uncertainties. And in my opinion there is a beautiful melody, a very good classical arrangement and a great vocal performance.

In fact, a true singer-songwriter must have a philosophical and existential streak before even political, and everyone must know how to transfer his mood into music, I mean melancholy, or desecration or sarcasm or anger, etc.


  In reply to Micky's portion, that is why I chose a more musical piece of Ochs' over my other potential choice of his, which would have been "Rehearsals For Retirement."  Also, good points, James, re poetical/political.  Ochs did indeed do a large share of writing what he saw, but I think in this song, he waxes a bit more on the poetic side, although it still tells a tale (again to Micky's point).  I enjoyed the Guccini, even without the translation, which says a lot for the melodic sense and arrangements...and the voice is also an instrument (of which Phil Ochs despaired of losing, finally committing suicide over it, at least partially as a reason).

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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

the problem with most singer-songwriters is the music is completely secondary to the story

so for the third poll..  I whip it out..and bring it with authority.. and bring on a singer-songwriter with a brilliant though depressing story to tell.. that musically is off the charts.  And if it doesn't win the poll.. I'll have to reconsider some musical tastes here LOL

Yes, the challenge is to sing political lyrics with a beautiful melody and a worthy arrangement. If you want to be political, you have to do it in a non-direct way, with poetry. I have read from various places  Phil Ochs has considered himself a reporter, and Dylan said to him that he was only a journalist, not a musician. I can't dare to judge him, I know him too little. 

In Italy Guccini and De André have never been reporters or journalists who made music, but the seeds of real poets, and it is no coincidence Guccini is also a writer and a learned linguist. The song I put on by Guccini is certainly not one of his political songs, it shows a love story with her contradictions, her uncertainties. And in my opinion there is a beautiful melody, a very good classical arrangement and a great vocal performance.

In fact, a true singer-songwriter must have a philosophical and existential streak before even political, and everyone must know how to transfer his mood into music, I mean melancholy, or desecration or sarcasm or anger, etc.




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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Good track by the Decemberists, but they are in the PA database, so they shouldn't be in this poll.

Are they? Well then...never mind.

LOL did not really not know that Greg???  Hazards of Love got quite a bit of love, and deservedly so, when it came out. Was quite high up on a lot of our prog album of the year awards lists.  As it is it still ranks in my top 10 prog albums of the 2000's ..


anyhow.. getting an early start.. and checking out everything selected so far.  

In my defense, point #1: the album came out in 2009. I didn't stop by till 2011. Point #2, I seldom pay attention to what goes on here for any length of time. The 70s....drugs...short term memory loss...what were we talking about again?

hah..  at least you have that to blame.  I only get to blame premature cranial decrepitude brought on by one too many blows to the head in my bar fighting/bouncing days and with a fair share of self abuse out of a bottle. 

or it is just getting old... It seems like that album came out just the other day.. and it seems like you have been around forever LOL
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^ I blame Raff's coffee this morning... that sh*t will have you ready to rumble right out of the gate.

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Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lots of great music, I ended up with the Ligeti's Etude piece as my vote.  I will also say I've found a few more I want to check into more.  Angelica Garcia, Beth Nielson Chapman, The Bears and Stephen Malkmus & Jicks.
 
Did you vote 3 times or only once?  Everyone gets to vote for 3.
  Back to the poll, then.  I'm going with The Bears & Stephen Malkmus & Jicks, then.  I love (pun!) that Calexico piece, too, but since I was familiar with it, I wanted to vote for things I was unfamiliar with.  Added:  It won't let me vote again, so that's OK, now I know how to deal with the next one.  :)



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