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FatherChristmas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 30 2020 Location: LandofGrey&Pink Status: Offline Points: 2477 |
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Many people have spoken (well, posted) similar cryptic messages about the apparent arguments you and Psycho Paul have had, and I'm still puzzled. The best information anyone ever gave me was from drwu23, and that was still rather vague. |
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"Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp
"I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45238 |
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^ I consider any post-1970's prog to be modern prog, but that's mainly because I'm a lot older than you.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 46774 |
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it's lost any kind of amusement long ago.
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FatherChristmas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 30 2020 Location: LandofGrey&Pink Status: Offline Points: 2477 |
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^Yes, I'm back to being the fat bloke in the suit now.
God forbid indeed! ![]() I meant that you often disagree with him, which I find quite amusing. |
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 46774 |
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again, I was talking about actual music in your thread and you do not, get off topic, so whatever...
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45238 |
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Maybe Cristi will stop criticising you and stop calling you Paul, now that I'm back.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 46774 |
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I'm not criticizing. How am I criticizing him? I only disagree with something he said about music. Ok, it seems I cannot express an opinion around here anymore... God forbid I disagree... |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45238 |
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At least I knew Sebastian Hardie were a band, and it's good to see you're still reading my blog, even though you said you don't read it.
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FatherChristmas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 30 2020 Location: LandofGrey&Pink Status: Offline Points: 2477 |
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^No offence, my friend, but is criticising Paul your hobby?
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^ Sebastian Hardie is not a modern band, they did a couple of albums in the 70s.
Anathema, Dream Theater and Porcupine Tree are not that modern either, when they started their careers 30 years ago or so.
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FatherChristmas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 30 2020 Location: LandofGrey&Pink Status: Offline Points: 2477 |
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I like those bands - but not all of them are modern; after all Porcupine Tree broke up eleven years ago. I won't bother you further on this, though. ![]() |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45238 |
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^ Although I've only reviewed classic prog albums on this blog, I do like several modern prog bands too, including:- Anathema; Astra; Ayreon; Dream Theater; Iona; Karnataka; Magenta; Mostly Autumn; Porcupine Tree; Sebastian Hardie; & White Willow, to name just a few.
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FatherChristmas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 30 2020 Location: LandofGrey&Pink Status: Offline Points: 2477 |
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^I don't think Roy Harper was a bad choice on vocals, you know. His voice is quite like Roger Waters', I didn't realise he was singing on it until I researched it.
What's really upsetting is that everyone loves the old prog classics we grew up with, but don't give a dam' about today's prog. Not that loving the old classics is a bad thing, but with that attitude the genre'll just die out. It's always the same group of people that comment on my modern prog threads - which I am of course grateful to, and glad they are interested - but it shows how only about seven or eight people here care. As for you, continue running this thread as well as you always do! If you don't like much modern prog I won't try and tell you what to think, I've just been looking for somewhere to complain about this for ages! ![]() |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45238 |
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^ Thanks! I like Primus' version of "Have a Cigar" more than Pink Floyd's version, even though I only heard it for the first time tonight.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45238 |
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Although "Have a Cigar" is a good song, I think it would have sounded much better with David Gilmour on lead vocals. Roy Harper was an unusual choice of singer, considering he's never featured on any other Pink Floyd album.
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FatherChristmas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 30 2020 Location: LandofGrey&Pink Status: Offline Points: 2477 |
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Thank you - cigarillo, please! ![]() Same here on Have a Cigar, though I do think it's a good song. The others are just better, that's all.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45238 |
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^ For me, "Have a Cigar" is the least likeable song on the Wish You Were Here album, although you can have a cigar for writing the album review.
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FatherChristmas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 30 2020 Location: LandofGrey&Pink Status: Offline Points: 2477 |
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Wish You Were Here - Five Stars I’ve long promised a review for this excellent album, and here it is. So, where to begin? “Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Part One)” begins the album quietly with Wright’s synths and Gilmour’s finger picked guitar, a relaxing ambient opener. After a while it leaves this section into a much jazzier guitar solo. Soon the famous “Shine On You Crazy Diamond” chorus is sung. But I won’t waste time listing the many sections of this song. All you need to know is that it combines Floyd’s psychedelic roots with jazzy motifs and Gilmour’s classic guitar; producing a deserving tribute to Syd Barrett, the album’s concept, and (combined with part two) the best song they ever made. As “Shine On” fades out, you can hear vibes of a breaking down machine, sounding stunningly like my printer. This very soon develops into a devastatingly powerful, dark lament about young people trying to be different and rebellious, doing things you shouldn’t like taking acid and eventually becoming just part of a machine – by trying to break from the machine; much like Syd Barrett, in fact. Some of the best lyrics are here - “What did you dream?/That’s all right we told you what to dream” - something only Floyd could think of. “Have A Cigar” continues the album, opening with a surprisingly bluesy riff. It evolves into a jazz-rocky number with vocals from Roy Harper. It is probably the most fun, lively and enjoyable song on the album (not counting “Shine On”), and yet it’s my least favourite song. Still an excellent achievement – after all, it’s on this album. The penultimate track, “Wish You Were Here”, was the first song I learnt on the guitar (I was originally just a pianist, I started playing the guitar quite late), and is very special to me. Opening with the guitar apparently recorded through Gilmour’s radio, that slowly develops into a calm, reassuring and somewhat thoughtful ballad, with elements of folk that had not really been seen with Floyd before. It’s concept is quite clear lyrically. One of my favourite ever songs by Pink Floyd. Lastly - “Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Part Two)”. I won’t write that much, as if I did it would be very much the same stuff that I wrote for part one. I will say, however, that it is like a more fun, faster, jazzy song than part one, with less ambient influences (apart from the fade out, that is). If I had to separate the two parts of “Shine On”, I’d say part two is better and more enjoyable. So – conclusion! Something I like to put in my reviews to help with my deciding on what rating I should give it are my two personal requirements for a five star album: 1. The songs must all be excellent. 2. It must work brilliantly as an album. Number one is fine. I have said that I prefer some songs to others, but that does not mean they are not all excellent. Number two I don’t have to speak for. Just listen to the album, and you’ll know I’m right. Well, that’s it. Not very long by my standards, but it’s very difficult to describe the greatest albums of all time. I only ever gave Duke, my favourite album, a rating. So, the final verdict is... five stars!
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FatherChristmas, well, it seems you overlooked my typo of tobacco man (was shooting for Tabasco man) but thank you. Yes, the trio: Tabasco man, mayonnaise man, and horseradish man, is a very spicy combo!! But make sure Alka-Seltzer man is in the vicinity to be sure!! I’m assuming ProgAardvark is now totally bored with this condiment man episode!! Because now he’s on another cryptic rant!! And it sounds quite messy!! Usually beans don’t affect ones bladder, but another organ found in a different location. And diapers are definitely a plus there!! Maybe they are kept in the blue bathroom box!! Guess we should not have eaten Tabasco, horseradish and mayo after all!! FloydianPinkRose
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