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Poll Question: Nominate one, pick three
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Meltdowner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2020 at 11:00
I already put my nomination up there, please tell me what's yours.
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Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:


I ordered the Salaryman album on CD today, it's a great album and incredibly cheap. I guess it's sadly not sought after at all.
 

Yep, they seem to be pretty much forgotten. They had a small time window of being "famous" enough to be played on German (indi) radio, which is where I know them from, and I think karoshi probably sold OK when post rock was big, but in the long run success escaped them.


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And for I Prophesy Disaster's fourth choice, my initial thoughts:
Van der Graaf Generator “It All Went Red”  Actually, I like that this one has the kind of production that it does, it’s how it would have been heard all sitting around a bedroom or living room with friends, albeit it would have been much sharper sound (maybe) live.  Lots of VDGG-expected experimental sounds with drums and horns and washy sounds in general abound in this one.  Not sure there’s anywhere to grab on to and keep in your mind, but that’s not what this band is all about.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Meltdowner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2020 at 10:58
I think it's safe to set the nomination deadline to Wednesday night?

For my nomination I was hesitating between Calibro 35 and Banda do Casaco, but I'm going with the former. I'm sure I'll nominate something from BDC in a future poll. They were the most interesting band from the 70's here but sadly not well-known, I first heard of them on PA.

I ordered the Salaryman album on CD today, it's a great album and incredibly cheap. I guess it's sadly not sought after at all.

Scott: Good to see you on these polls again. Very good choices, but I think Ronnie's song stands better alone. I liked it so much I ended up playing the full album right away.

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: I didn't know Joe Walsh. Very smooth song, the flute solo really hits the spot.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote I prophesy disaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2020 at 05:47
For my fourth submission, I choose a track from the album whose cover is my avatar. This album is not a studio quality album and the audio quality is not good, but I hope you overlook this in judging the track. I'm guessing that only diehard fans have this album, so the track won't be well-known:
 
 
Van der Graaf Generator - It All Went Red
 

 
 
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Catching up with the newly posted tracks:

Mathman: The effect on the vibraphone on Greetings from the Master is also present on the studio track, but more subtle - it is sustaining the original sound but not overpowering at as in the live track. I personally prefer the studio version. The Band Maid girl power is very energetic, but musically I don't find it that interesting (but they're very good in showing off!).

I prophesy disaster: You cannot go wrong with Nektar. A great track, but maybe a bit too well known to be a contender (for me).

Meltdowner: Dungen, not a spectacular track but very nice and dreamy indeed - I guess this one needs an album around it...

Lewian: Regarding Portico quartet a bit of the same remark as with Dungen. But I prefer Red Snapper, it's more adventurous, complex and rich (but unfortunately too long for this poll). Salaryman's track remains my preferred one of yours.

TCat: Mouse on the keys, a very nice jazzy and swinging piece; nicely pulsating between piano and drums, eventually enriched by the sax. Very pleasant! Pascal Comelade is a local for me (well, a regional since I moved a bit further away) and I have seen him several times in concert - always a great pleasure. He often has this cinematographic quality in his music (and he has accompanied films regularly...) that I like every once in a while (but not too often or too much at the same time).

I actually still don't know which one of mine I will nominate - they're all so different...

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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

  On a couple more from Mike:  Mouse on the Keys “Toccatina”  Very percussive (both with percussion and the way the piano is played) jazzy-feel piano piece.  Throwing in some horns in a counterpoint to what the other parts are doing.  A mover of a piece.  Pascale Comelade “The Sheik of Araby”  Of course I know the tune, but hadn’t heard I done on toy type instruments.  Very fun and circus-y!  Could have heard this as a part of a psych LP actually, several bands did dabble in a bit of this kind of thing amongst the lysergic pieces.

Both of these are in the archives.  I don't know as much about Mouse on the Keys, but I do enjoy their quirkiness.  Pascale Comelade has done a lot of things with other musicians.  If you notice the cover on this one, it has the title song "September Song" with Robert Wyatt trying his best to sing along.  I might post that one another time somewhere along the way.

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Here are the ones I missed on the first time around:


Cristi – love the bass on crocodilul and the overall sound of that track.  Also found Walking Across Jupiter enjoyable.

 

Geo – I really like the post rock sounds of Pell Mell, but my favorites from your selections were the Us, Today tracks, both of them.

 

I Prophesy disaster – I’m way too familiar with the excellent “Frankenstein” for it to qualify for my vote.  However, I don’t know that Fred Frith track.  I have some of his albums, but he has such a huge discography, it’s impossible to know them all, so I say that makes it qualify.  The Nektar track – I am also too familiar with that one.

 

Scott – I used to own that Europe album back in the day.  But I loved the Lillian Axe track and the Montrose track.  I also had one of his Gamma albums way back then too and loved it.  Didn’t know that track though.

 

Dr. Wu – I’m way too familiar with Joe Walsh’s music for that one to count.  He’s also one of my favs.

 

Sam – The Dungen track is not available in my area.   I’ll try to get another link to it later.  Nickie’s link didn’t work either.

 

Lewian – Portico Quartet – Absolutely love that one!  Red Snapper was good too, but sad that  it’s too long for inclusion.


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I have by the way listened to the list two or three times but besides doing other things. Here are just a few impressions. Overall very enjoyable with much good stuff. I know a few (Fred Frith - was considering suggesting some Fred Frith myself, Durutti Column, Cassiber). I loved Rodrigo e Gabriela at first sight. I wasn't very keen the first time when Nicky brought up Tom Kelly, but this one I like much more. I have a weak spot for waltzy stuff. The Jon Hassell and Bluescreen one is a highlight but six seconds too long. Cry Glen Campbell's Classical Gas version made a lasting impression; I suspect the Williams/Henson-Conant version is just as good if not better but I was more distracted when that came up so missed its quality at first go.  
Father Christmas: The Lost Crowns one is superb, but errr... RTFM!
  Thanks for the thoughts, Lewian.  I do try to only take Tom out sparingly, he seemed right for this one....and the other piece was very "American," a very different style from this one.  I love the Williams/Henson-Conant version in part because Deborah is so fun to watch, very different than many more "serious" harpists, she has such a good time playing.  Glen Campbell's lead in his version was most excellent, I agree.  Just a superb guitarist.
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I have by the way listened to the list two or three times but besides doing other things. Here are just a few impressions. Overall very enjoyable with much good stuff. I know a few (Fred Frith - was considering suggesting some Fred Frith myself, Durutti Column, Cassiber). I loved Rodrigo e Gabriela at first sight. I wasn't very keen the first time when Nicky brought up Tom Kelly, but this one I like much more. I have a weak spot for waltzy stuff. The Jon Hassell and Bluescreen one is a highlight but six seconds too long. Cry Glen Campbell's Classical Gas version made a lasting impression; I suspect the Williams/Henson-Conant version is just as good if not better but I was more distracted when that came up so missed its quality at first go.  
Father Christmas: The Lost Crowns one is superb, but errr... RTFM!
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  On a couple more from Mike:  Mouse on the Keys “Toccatina”  Very percussive (both with percussion and the way the piano is played) jazzy-feel piano piece.  Throwing in some horns in a counterpoint to what the other parts are doing.  A mover of a piece.  Pascale Comelade “The Sheik of Araby”  Of course I know the tune, but hadn’t heard I done on toy type instruments.  Very fun and circus-y!  Could have heard this as a part of a psych LP actually, several bands did dabble in a bit of this kind of thing amongst the lysergic pieces.
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Here's one that I should have posted....This always happens when I get looking through my library when I get a few extra minutes to do so.....

Mouse on the Keys - "Toccatina"




and I can't help but post Pascale Comelade, the maestro of toy instruments...."The Sheik of Araby"








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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Your comments are a treasure - wish I could write so well and could have the time to listen individually with so much attention!
  That is so kind of you. Heart I am lucky to have the time to consider each one, I know not all are quite so blessed with that luxury.  
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Your comments are a treasure - wish I could write so well and could have the time to listen individually with so much attention!
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And catching up to this point, adding in Lewian's 2 additions:

Lewian:  Portico Quartet “Pompidou” Begins with bell-like keys, very faery-tale/ballerina sounding, adds whimsical, slightly melancholy horn and sad, yet lilting flute and some percussive accents with cymbal.  I very much like this one, it also feels vaguely Russian/folk to me, which I always enjoy.  Red Snapper “they’re hanging me tonight” Begins with foreboding sounds and skewed keys….sometimes I have a hard time knowing with this kind of music what is creating the sounds, the synths are so good these days.  Anyway, I like the main melody that comes in at 2 minutes-ish, this is very cinematic music, very understated.  Up to that point, then it gets more….pointed at about 3.5 minutes.  Lots of edgy, swirling guitar.  Thank you for the introduction. 
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Fourth and last suggestion, some nice nu-jazz. I saw them playing this going out for the first time with a wonderful lady and jazz fan who now is a very good friend of mine before they had anything published; it may have been their first big gig. Great memories! Portico Quartet - Pompidou
Oh, I already have to stop?? As always one out of competition (too long), but I wouldn't miss the opportunity to present the Red Snapper to the poll audience. 

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Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

What are these polls about exactly? Never got them and I see quite a lot of them. I'd be grateful if someone explains the nature of an 'Interactive poll' to an ignorant forum user like me. Big smile
I put the usual rules in the opening post:

Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

This time you will choose instrumental songs under 5 minutes. Wordless vocals are allowed.

Your choices can be from any genre, including artists on PA, but try to pick lesser-known songs/bands.

As usual, you can mention up to four songs and next week you'll be asked to nominate one to be featured in the poll. After everyone has nominated theirs you can vote for three songs, not including your own.
 


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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:


  Thank you for your kind words, Mike.  I probably will put that one up, I don't enter his music much after all.  Aryeh is also a violinist and nyckelharper, very accomplished musician.  His short-lived progressive band, Azigza, is in PA.  

Mason Williams did some very funny songs as well, which started as poems, "Them.....Whatevers"  There's a funny YT of him on the Johnny Cash show reciting one.  We had "The Mason Williams Reader," as well as "The Mason Williams Record Album," at my home, growing up.  I still do have the LP.  Had to find the video, very silly and think people will enjoy it...

Also, you are not a slacker!
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Apparently, comedy was his other job.  Williams appeared on the Smothers Brothers many time and also wrote for SNL. 

Yes, very funny and multi-talented.  Reminds me a bit of Steve Martin in that way.


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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:


Nickie  - I have to say I was rather taken by Tom's instrumental and would put it as my favorite.  Mason Williams I've seen live before, by himself and with Mannheim Steamroller when he did his stint with them.  I Also enjoyed Aryeh Frankfurter

  Thank you for your kind words, Mike.  I probably will put that one up, I don't enter his music much after all.  Aryeh is also a violinist and nyckelharper, very accomplished musician.  His short-lived progressive band, Azigza, is in PA.  

Mason Williams did some very funny songs as well, which started as poems, "Them.....Whatevers"  There's a funny YT of him on the Johnny Cash show reciting one.  We had "The Mason Williams Reader," as well as "The Mason Williams Record Album," at my home, growing up.  I still do have the LP.  Had to find the video, very silly and think people will enjoy it...

Also, you are not a slacker!

Apparently, comedy was his other job.  Williams appeared on the Smothers Brothers many time and also wrote for SNL.



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I forget that about the 60's in other places in the world, the music world was just burgeoning here, then.  But we missed a lot of great music from overseas in other parts of the country.  If you were in LA or NY, you probably had a much wider banquet spread in front of you than in other places here.
PS, if you were speaking of Tom's music, you can certainly access it all on YT for free, or Spotify.  Just watch out for other Tom Kellys....his will have the odd titles and cover art.  A problem with a common name.


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