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    Posted: February 01 2023 at 17:31
More unknown but should be known albums. Careful there's a couple of live ones here and on the previous poll.
In the spirit of those Logan and Avestin polls of years ago where they would just want to discuss the music not caring about the votes so much.
Which is why I usually say something about each album when I do polls.


Edited by Mellotron Storm - February 01 2023 at 17:32
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Tough call...but chose Softs just...
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I adore Matching Mole's self-titled and Little Red Record, and used to listen to both lots, but am not so familiar with March. I own Egg's Egg, The Polite Force and The Civil Surface but not that archival release. I may have heard it on myspace or something years ago. I liked the Guru Guru, but it has been many ears since I last listened to it. Of course I love Art Zoyd, and that album has been a favourite of mine. Musique pour l'Odyssee is what got me into Art Zoyd. But I'm going with Bennie Maupin's The Jewel In The Lotus today I love the Mwandishi player albums.
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Bennie Maupin - The Jewel In The Lotus is really a one of a kind album and Mwandishi-related. So that will almost automatically get my vote. But Art Zoyd - Musique pour l'Odyssee comes close. 

Matching Mole is great, but rarely an album choose to I listen to. That Violeta De Outono-album I remember as quite a pleasant listen. I don't recall it as particularly jazzy at all though. The softer side of prog like Camel, Cressida and early PFM with some added psych-bits? Noodly jamband krautrockers Guru Guru is not my bag at all. That said Dance of the Flames is by far the best I've heard by them. The flipside is listenable through and through. Almost as enjoyable as Embryo. Bella Band is very competent and well played, but to my ears one of many bands that lacks personality and stand out qualities. Not heard the Egg archival live-collection or Softs British Tour '75 tour. Maybe I should check out the latter, as it features Holdsworth-era Soft Machine material sans Holdsworth (not a fan). 
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I voted for Guru Guru.
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Again I'll respond to these comments but the two with no votes includes Bella Band from Italy who play an awesome brand of Jazz Rock with plenty of clavinet and fender rhodes. Love the cover art and picture on the back of these old men playing on the street.
Matching Mole live features Miller on guitar, Wyatt on drums, MacRae on electric piano and MacCormick on bass. Recorded in Europe in 1972. And hey Sinclair's Waterloo Lily closes the set. Man I appreciate the picture inside of the guys standing on the street, especially Wyatt.
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Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

Art Zoyd

My fifth favourite Art Zoyd album and part of the appeal is Daniel Denis and Michel Berckmans from Univers Zero being part of this seven piece band. I mean having Denis, Berckmans, Hourbette and Zaboitzeff playing in the same band? 
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Tough call...but chose Softs just...

I'm a huge fan of this period of Soft Machine and I love the liner notes written by the new guitarist John Etheridge. He's so honest talking about how hard he had to practice once he got the job because he knew when playing live he would need a lot of stamina because that band puts their heads down and play going non-stop from one track to the next. 
And how do you replace Allan Holdsworth? Well it was Holdsworth who actually recommended Etheridge so that had to help.
Same lineup as Floating World that's on the other poll except for Holdsworth on that earlier tour.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I adore Matching Mole's self-titled and Little Red Record, and used to listen to both lots, but am not so familiar with March. I own Egg's Egg, The Polite Force and The Civil Surface but not that archival release. I may have heard it on myspace or something years ago. I liked the Guru Guru, but it has been many ears since I last listened to it. Of course I love Art Zoyd, and that album has been a favourite of mine. Musique pour l'Odyssee is what got me into Art Zoyd. But I'm going with Bennie Maupin's The Jewel In The Lotus today I love the Mwandishi player albums.


Nice post and I'm not sure why it has taken me so long to crack this one but it has. Hancock and that Mwandishi group are here but this is different say than Preister's Love Love and those Hancock records. An ECM release so Manfred Eicher produced it and that may be part of the sound here.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Bennie Maupin - The Jewel In The Lotus is really a one of a kind album and Mwandishi-related. So that will almost automatically get my vote. But Art Zoyd - Musique pour l'Odyssee comes close. 

Matching Mole is great, but rarely an album choose to I listen to. That Violeta De Outono-album I remember as quite a pleasant listen. I don't recall it as particularly jazzy at all though. The softer side of prog like Camel, Cressida and early PFM with some added psych-bits? Noodly jamband krautrockers Guru Guru is not my bag at all. That said Dance of the Flames is by far the best I've heard by them. The flipside is listenable through and through. Almost as enjoyable as Embryo. Bella Band is very competent and well played, but to my ears one of many bands that lacks personality and stand out qualities. Not heard the Egg archival live-collection or Softs British Tour '75 tour. Maybe I should check out the latter, as it features Holdsworth-era Soft Machine material sans Holdsworth (not a fan). 

Such a detailed reply and like Logan the Maupin and Art Zoyd stand out for you guys. Much respect for the opinions of you two. You should check out British '75 with Etheridge and what about the NDR Workshop from this period played in Germany but with Gary Boyle on guitar? Boyle's on that Keith Tippet release on the other poll. I can't disagree about Violeta De Outono, I always felt that it had that psychedelic sound more than anything but the guitarist has that GONG connection playing with Daevid Allen playing Gissando guitar and stuff. Anyway I love that one and voted for it. Talked to the guitarist on here by private message thanking me for the review then sending me that Invisible Opera Company Of Tibet cd that kills. Hard to be star struck in cyber space but that was close.
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Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

I voted for Guru Guru.

They added Jazz/Fusion to their sound thanks to getting a new guitarist Houschang Nejadepour from the band Eiliff who was influenced by John McLaughlin.
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Matching Mole -March was great ,stimulating, and a musical masterpiece. Killer keyboard ,bass and drums. Phil was amazing as well.
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Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

I voted for Guru Guru.

They added Jazz/Fusion to their sound thanks to getting a new guitarist Houschang Nejadepour from the band Eiliff who was influenced by John McLaughlin.

Hi,

And I think it was an excellent combination, that sadly would only last one album. At the very least, the long cuts show some great material ... The Girl from Hirshhorn/Dagobert Duck's 100th birthday/God's Endless Love are all excellent, and I don't even know that I would consider it jazzy much ... to me this is "progressive rock" at its best ... and with a little fun in it. Both the drumming and the guitar in all three of those pieces are supreme, and a lesson that most drummers won't take. A friend of mine, whose hero was Carl Palmer and had a huge drum set with 12 toms, could not keep up ... he also had a hard time with Pierre Moerlin, when I played the stuff from YOU ... it was too complicated ... and to my ear not quite stuck to a beat as much as it did the quality of the music around the drummer.

Not sure I described that well ... but Mani was known that he didn't play rhythm or beat ... he played with the guitar, and in this album ... it is quite a treat.
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Originally posted by rik wilson rik wilson wrote:

Matching Mole -March was great ,stimulating, and a musical masterpiece. Killer keyboard ,bass and drums. Phil was amazing as well.

Well said and I agree I love each of these musicians on here. That electric piano always gets me.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

I voted for Guru Guru.

They added Jazz/Fusion to their sound thanks to getting a new guitarist Houschang Nejadepour from the band Eiliff who was influenced by John McLaughlin.

Hi,

And I think it was an excellent combination, that sadly would only last one album. At the very least, the long cuts show some great material ... The Girl from Hirshhorn/Dagobert Duck's 100th birthday/God's Endless Love are all excellent, and I don't even know that I would consider it jazzy much ... to me this is "progressive rock" at its best ... and with a little fun in it. Both the drumming and the guitar in all three of those pieces are supreme, and a lesson that most drummers won't take. A friend of mine, whose hero was Carl Palmer and had a huge drum set with 12 toms, could not keep up ... he also had a hard time with Pierre Moerlin, when I played the stuff from YOU ... it was too complicated ... and to my ear not quite stuck to a beat as much as it did the quality of the music around the drummer.



Not sure I described that well ... but Mani was known that he didn't play rhythm or beat ... he played with the guitar, and in this album ... it is quite a treat.


Your posts are always interesting and it moved me to look at the liner notes for Dance of The Flames and man so many great pictures then I see the bass player Hans Hartmann and I had to look him up. He was a jazz bassist and chapman stick player who just passed away this past July. Born in Switzerland died in Germany.
The liner notes also state that when Nejadepour left the band he was replaced by Gila'sConny Veit but that only lasted a few months, it was after this that Manni decided to disband the trio with the constant lineup changes being the reason.
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