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Poll Question: Please vote for 3 MAIN (before "Intermission") songs and 2 bonus songs
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LOL Ok, I'll tink about my choice until nomination. Bona often uses his voice rather as an istrument than in the classical sense.


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^ It doesn't really matter to me much how people want to order it, but sure. I want to be pretty easy-going even though I often do go overboard with rules (which humours me and annoys others sometimes). Feel free to order it as you best think fits. :) I trust people's judgment, mostly.... Well, other than my own judgment.

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ Mila, I like it in the order you presented. Those first two Bona songs for the "main" (those two are my faves of the three) and the third for the Bon[a]us. Good variety on those tracks and nice to see it become more wordly.
LoL I've meanwhile specified my question (see above). Accordingly track no. 1 from the solo album would most likely fit into the bonus category, don't you think?


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^ Mila, I like it in the order you presented. Those first two Bona songs for the "main" (those two are my faves of the three) and the third for the Bon[a]us. Good variety on those tracks and nice to see it become more wordly.
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My choice, which may seem a little unusual at first glance, is Richard Bona, best known as one of the most sought-after jazz bassists, worldwide. However, based on his first solo albums, we can see/hear that he is also a gifted vocalist. It was not easy to make a selection from Bona's rich and varied oeuvre, but I finally decided on the following three tracks:

The 1st song, a duet with the famous Malian musician Salif Keïta, is from his third solo studio album Munia/The Tale, 2003. Solo album in this context includes his own band.

Richard Bona ft. Salif Keïta: Kalabancoro

The 2nd song is from his second collaborative album with Gérald Toto FRA/MTQ and Lokua Kanza COG (Bondeko, 2017). Bona himself is from Cameroon btw.

Toto Bona Lokua: Ma Mama

And finally, a 3rd song from his latest collaboration with the Cuban jazz pianist Alfredo Rodriguez with whom he has toured extensively over the last few years. I was lucky enough to attend their fantastic concert in Switzerland!

Richard Bona & Alfredo Rodriguez: Raíces/Roots

I don't know yet how I should classify the three chosen tracks here, because actually all three would fit into the main category imo. The first suggested track is from Bona's solo project which includes his own band plus a guest vocalist. As a bassists he's played in plenty of jazz bands, on a few occasions he has also provided vocals, but I find those tracks musically less interesting and accordingly they are also quite jazzy of course which does not necessarily correspond to the general taste in a rock oriented forum.

@Greg, what do you think?



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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

 
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

@Greg, I have a question. I have an artist in mind who performs in the first track with his band and in the second one with an orchestra (that song was arranged by the conductor of the orchestra). Both songs are written by the same person, though. Does that meet your guidelines?

If they are under different project names, then I expect to be okay with it. I'm okay with the songs being written by the same person, and taking different collaborations into account. Maybe you would give me the name and I will look into it.
The tracks are under different project names in so far as the artist on the second track only appears as a featured artist. Thanks for offering your help but I doubt you know the artist. She comes from La Réunion, an island in the Indian Ocean, near Madagascar. - In any case I will choose an artist from outside the western cultural sphere that is already well represented here. :P
I'm pretty good at research, so figured I could help with the aid of a search engine and searching some music websites if I knew the details. I'm somewhat familiar with Christine Salem, but no others that I can think of, but of course I could search.
Oh, great you know Christine Salem! I had a young rock musician in mind but I think I will bring her on another occasion. It is also about showing the musical diversity of an artist after all, isn't it? Smile


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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ Yeah, seriously. Hope you do, thanks.

My first thoughts on the topic were Ted Leonard, Anneke van Giersbergen and Ray Alder. 

Ted Leonard (Enchant, Xen, Affector, Spock's Beard, Thought Chamber, Pattern-Seeking Animals)
Anneke (The Gathering, solo, Vuur, Devin Townsend, and I'm sure there are others, i just listen to these LOL)
Ray Alder (Fates Warning, Engine, Redemption, solo, A-Z, Figure of Speechless)

there's also Michael Kiske (Helloween, solo, Place Vendome, Unisonic, and I'm sure a lot of guesting)
Jorn Lande (Ark, Masterplan, solo and many others, I just listen to these three). 

I also looked for videos of a Romanian musician/song-writer that also sings, a guitarist rather than a vocalist, if i find something, I'll definitely post here, might even be my nomination. Smile


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^ Yeah, seriously. Hope you do, thanks.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

so just singers that were involved in several bands/projects? 
I'll think of something and get back to this. 

Yep, the focus is on singers involved in several musical ventures (solo, bands, collaboration of some sort, singing a song for a band/artist....)

No hurry, the voting in Mila's poll isn't complete, and it may never be complete, but I don't expect much attention to this while that process is ongoing. Not that I specifically have looked to see who and how many have not yet registered their votes, but that was my impression.


I have some ideas, I will exclude metal related vocalists, i don't want to upset anyone. GeekLOL


Maybe you'll bring in some metal as well even if out of competition. I for one need some metal in my diet and too often forgot how much metal I really enjoy, including metal singers.

Really? Tongue There are quite a few vocalists that have been involved in several bands/projects, they guested with other artists and so on. I could post a few videos. Smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

so just singers that were involved in several bands/projects? 
I'll think of something and get back to this. 


Yep, the focus is on singers involved in several musical ventures (solo, bands, collaboration of some sort, singing a song for a band/artist....)

No hurry, the voting in Mila's poll isn't complete, and it may never be complete, but I don't expect much attention to this while that process is ongoing. Not that I specifically have looked to see who and how many have not yet registered their votes, but that was my impression.


I have some ideas, I will exclude metal related vocalists, i don't want to upset anyone. GeekLOL


Maybe you'll bring in some metal as well even if out of competition. I for one need some metal in my diet and too often forgot how much metal I really enjoy, including metal singers.

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

@Greg, I have a question. I have an artist in mind who performs in the first track with his band and in the second one with an orchestra (that song was arranged by the conductor of the orchestra). Both songs are written by the same person, though. Does that meet your guidelines?

If they are under different project names, then I expect to be okay with it. I'm okay with the songs being written by the same person, and taking different collaborations into account. Maybe you would give me the name and I will look into it.
The tracks are under different project names in so far as the artist on the second track only appears as a featured artist. Thanks for offering your help but I doubt you know the artist. She comes from La Réunion, an island in the Indian Ocean, near Madagascar. - In any case I will choose an artist from outside the western cultural sphere that is already well represented here. :P



I'm pretty good at research, so figured I could help with the aid of a search engine and searching some music websites if I knew the details. I'm somewhat familiar with Christine Salem, but no others that I can think of, but of course I could search.


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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

@Greg, I have a question. I have an artist in mind who performs in the first track with his band and in the second one with an orchestra (that song was arranged by the conductor of the orchestra). Both songs are written by the same person, though. Does that meet your guidelines?

If they are under different project names, then I expect to be okay with it. I'm okay with the songs being written by the same person, and taking different collaborations into account. Maybe you would give me the name and I will look into it.
The tracks are under different project names in so far as the artist on the second track only appears as a featured artist. Thanks for offering your help but I doubt you know the artist. She comes from La Réunion, an island in the Indian Ocean, near Madagascar. - In any case I will choose an artist from outside the western cultural sphere that is already well represented here. :P


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^ Nice. Connect and The Joke are really great, by the way.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Plenty of time to decide which will be your two main choices, and your additional "bonus" track (not required but would like three).
 
I think I'll submit Isildurs Bane & Peter Hammill - In Amazonia - Before You Know It posted earlier as my "bonus" track.
 
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

so just singers that were involved in several bands/projects? 
I'll think of something and get back to this. 


Yep, the focus is on singers involved in several musical ventures (solo, bands, collaboration of some sort, singing a song for a band/artist....)

No hurry, the voting in Mila's poll isn't complete, and it may never be complete, but I don't expect much attention to this while that process is ongoing. Not that I specifically have looked to see who and how many have not yet registered their votes, but that was my impression.

I have some ideas, I will exclude metal related vocalists, i don't want to upset anyone. GeekLOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

so just singers that were involved in several bands/projects? 
I'll think of something and get back to this. 


Yep, the focus is on singers involved in several musical ventures (solo, bands, collaboration of some sort, singing a song for a band/artist....)

No hurry, the voting in Mila's poll isn't complete, and it may never be complete, but I don't expect much attention to this while that process is ongoing. Not that I specifically have looked to see who and how many have not yet registered their votes, but that was my impression.
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^ Thanks. Plenty of time to decide which will be your two main choices, and your additional "bonus" track (not required but would like three).

I was just reminded of Beth Gibbon of Portishead. I've covered Portishead a fair amount already, and would go with "The Rip" off Portisheads' Third, but I think I nominated that before (I adore that song off a too often neglected album, imo).

Here is Portishead's "It's a Fire ' (on some releases of Dummy, not on the one I had heard)



And Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man's - "Spider Monkey" off 2002's Out of Season



I want to mention a couple more "bonus" tracks featuring Beth Gibbons (there are a lot to choose from).

Rodrigo Leão featuring Beth Gibbons - "Carousel" (off the album Cinema from 2004)



Gonga (with Beth Gibbons) - "Black Sabbath" (off the 2014 Black Sabbath single) .



* I mention "It's a Fire" because it's lesser known and something of a bonus track on some Dummy issues (hadn't been on any I had heard). I've covered a lot of Portishead in various topics here but this is kind of different.

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I still would rather the focus be on tracks at least that one might not associate with Prog that much. I want to try to be accommodating, while at the same time I'm not comfortable with ignoring the guidelines when it comes to these topics. Not uncommon to adapt the rules depending upon others suggestions and limitations so that more can join in.
 
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I would think this is a pretty easy challenge.
 
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And I'm fine with people mentioning music that they discovered thanks to their research for this topic.
 
Ok, now that I have done more research into the guest appearances of Peter Hammill as lead vocals, I can submit two tracks by artists that are not in PA:
 
 
Notopia - Celebrating Life - Connect (feat. Peter Hammill)
 
 
 
Saro Cosentino - The Road To Now - The Joke (feat. Peter Hammill)
 
 
 



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Lorenzo: Your first video does not show up for me so I added a different one to the playlist. And I could not add your second video to the playlist due to there being the message "This action is turned off for content made for kids" when trying to save it to the playlist.
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^ Funnily enough, or maybe not funny but because I am a fan, Robert Wyatt and Peter Hammill were two of the first I thought about when I said that I'd rather make this non-Prog (Robert Wyatt especially has been involved in so many things, and for a deemed-Prog artist edition with the same idea which I though I might do when it's my turn again, I would have wanted to cover him). Mind you, lots of artists who are considered Prog at PA have made music that I wouldn't call Prog, be it solo or in collaborations. And many others not in PA may have made music that individuals consider Prog. Prog can be a very proglematic term, or problematic I mean. I still would rather the focus be on tracks at least that one might not associate with Prog that much. I want to try to be accommodating, while at the same time I'm not comfortable with ignoring the guidelines when it comes to these topics. Not uncommon to adapt the rules depending upon others suggestions and limitations so that more can join in.

Anders: I can relate. Take care, hope you participate again at some time, and my PM box is open if you want to offload to someone who has some experience with such matters.

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

@Greg, I have a question. I have an artist in mind who performs in the first track with his band and in the second one with an orchestra (that song was arranged by the conductor of the orchestra). Both songs are written by the same person, though. Does that meet your guidelines?


If they are under different project names, then I expect to be okay with it. I'm okay with the songs being written by the same person, and taking different collaborations into account. Maybe you would give me the name and I will look into it.

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Note: I would think this is a pretty easy challenge. If one has a singer that one would like to represent, then a site like rateyourmusic will show different projects/ "Member of" and appears on when searching. Rateyourmusic is my main tool/ music resource. And I'm fine with people mentioning music that they discovered thanks to their research for this topic. A big joy of these polls to me is not only discovering new-to-mew music from others, as well as re-appraising and reacquainting myself with music, but also there can be some discovery and re-discovery for me when coming up with options. The Harold Budd, Elizabeth Fraser, Robin Guthrie & Simon Raymonde album I covered as my bonus is new to me, and the other two are older favourites of mine.

By the way, sorry getting back a bit late to this topic, but I've been very busy this last week and so staying away from even looking at PA else it distract me.
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

So as not to be excluded from this poll, I decided to ignore the non-prog request and choose two projects with Peter Hammill as singer. But I won't choose the obvious.
 
Peter Hammill has made quite a few guest appearences on other artist's albums, some even as lead vocals. For example, here's two from Robert Fripp - Exposure:
 
 
Disengage
 
 
 
Chicago
 
 
 
And a third in which he duetted with Terre Roche:
 
I May Not Have Had Enough Of Me But I've Had Enough Of You
 
 
 



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