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Poll Question: Which is your favourite album?
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Floodland gets my vote. Love that album. Music For the Masses is is a classic too. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me is mostly wonderful, but a little bloated. Love that Siouxsie-covers album too actually.
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Yeah, this is between Suzanne Vega, Depeche Mode, Midnight Oil for me. Even T'Pau has some great songs, as there are many other good songs to be found on most of these albums listed. Toss-up between the first three...

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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

The Suzanne Vega album isn't New Wave, but it's my favourite.

Exactly this.
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Not New Wave

Sting (Pop Rock)
Suzanne Vega (Folk Rock, Folk Pop)
Sisters of Mercy (Gothic Rock)

Midnight Oil for me. Also questionably new wave but many consider it so for it's pop hooks / punk attititude

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Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

Suzanne Vega - Solitude Standing. BTW, is it New Wave?

Suzanne Vega isn't New Wave to me either, but Google seems to think she is. Smile
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Suzanne Vega - Solitude Standing. BTW, is it New Wave?
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Only familiar with the Depeche Mode and Cars albums. Voted Depeche Mode.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ And I ended up voting for MO. I have listened to that album countless times -- it's become a true classic of Australian rock. The qualities I hear are me associating it with what I have subsequently read being associated with the New Wave umbrella, but yeah, it is pretty much the opposite of what I consider New Wave to be. Midnight Oil are rockers (rockers with post-punk and progressive qualities, while also having music that is very direct). Not surprisingly, since this is Prog Archives lots of us have a strong interest in classification. It's been said before that talking and arguing genre classification is our forums lifeblood.

I had not noticed that Paul only gave it two stars, I'm actually rather surprised despite the fact that he tends to rate low that which I like. It probably is those punky, aggressive vocals, which are not universes apart from Tim Smith of Cardiacs. A reason why I thought of Cardiacs above.

You're right. I've been burning the midnight oil compiling these New Wave polls, but I really wish I hadn't included Midnight Oil, as those punky aggressive vocals aren't my cup of tea at all. 
I probably shouldn't be too surprised that Midnight Oil are currently leading the poll though. Smile


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^ And I ended up voting for MO. I have listened to that album countless times -- it's become a true classic of Australian rock. The qualities I hear are me associating it with what I have subsequently read being associated with the New Wave umbrella, but yeah, it is pretty much the opposite of what I consider New Wave to be. Midnight Oil are rockers (rockers with post-punk and progressive qualities, while also having music that is very direct). Not surprisingly, since this is Prog Archives lots of us have a strong interest in classification. It's been said before that talking and arguing genre classification is our forums lifeblood.

I had not noticed that Paul only gave it two stars, I'm actually rather surprised despite the fact that he tends to rate low that which I like. It probably is those punky, aggressive vocals, which are not universes apart from Tim Smith of Cardiacs. A reason why I thought of Cardiacs above.
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Even though it's not new wave and Paul's lowest rated album, Diesel and Dust by Midnight Oil.

Those guys are so good. I voted for them, too.

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The only one of these I own is Midnight Oil's Diesel and Dust which was one of the first CDs I bought. Seeing Icehouse, I have the debut on cassette, been many years. I adored the title song in the 80s. I can get some New Wave kind of qualities in the Midnight Oil, but I had never thought of it as New Wave. I have read through these threads and I still don't get how New Wave is being defined for the albums lists. That might be worthy of its own non-poll topic. Think I have heard that whole Men Without Hats album, but all I remember is the title track.

MO sounds like the opposite of NW. Theirs is the only album I could vote for in the poll. Thumbs Up
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^ Wow, how very fitting.

Edited by Logan - June 08 2023 at 10:18
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Gotta go with None Of The Above.
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Anyway, despite my not associating that Midnight Oil much with New Wave and my lack of familiarity with the choices, I will give it's album a vote. It had songs from it all over rock radio in the late 80s, early 90s here, but this, which wasn't, was my favourite off the album.
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^ Thanks. I just found and read this article (quite short, here's an excerpt). https://www.masterclass.com/articles/new-wave-music-guide

Quote 5 Characteristics of New Wave Music
New wave music encompasses many styles from the 1970s and 1980s, yet several characteristics tend to unify the movement:

1. Reduced blues influence: Unlike the prevailing rock music of the 1970s, new wave music does not draw heavily from the blues tradition.

2. Punk energy: In the early days of new wave, the term was used interchangeably with punk. While later, there was a clear distinction between punks like The Sex Pistols and new wavers like Talking Heads, the two styles are united by intense energy and lyrics that can be shouted as well as sung.

3. Rhythmic experimentation: New wave artists show varying approaches to their rhythm sections. However many groups from the era, including Devo, Talking Heads, The Police, Adam and the Ants, Bow Wow Wow, and Duran Duran, ambitiously approached rhythm. Many of these groups regularly used rhythmic ideas from Jamaica, Cuba, and West Africa.

4. Increasing use of keyboards: As new wave evolved in the early ‘80s, electronic keyboards became prominent. Some new wave groups always remained guitar-driven, like The Cars, Talking Heads, and The Police. Others, like Depeche Mode, Gary Numan, and Human League, elevated keyboards to the primary instrument.

5. Mainstream appeal: Unlike punk music, new wave cracked the mainstream pop charts. MTV was filled with new wave music videos; in fact, the network's very first music video was from a new wave group, The Buggles.


It's a broad church, and I probably had a very limited notion of it in the 80s and now. While I get New Wave qualities from that Midnight Oil album, to me it's more of an alternative rock type album rooted in blues rock. It has a kind kind of pub rock quality to me, but they also have this kind of punk energy ands New Wave slickness as an undercurrent.

I guess under the kind of broad way google seems to use New Wave, some Cardiacs could count. This always seemed on the New Wave side to me. Is This the Life?   (only Cardiacs song I recall hearing on the mainstream radio here, uni radio liked Cardiacs).



And if for a kind of synths sound, then something like Stoneage Dinosaurs (a very muted Cardiacs track).



Edited by Logan - June 08 2023 at 10:07
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The only one of these I own is Midnight Oil's Diesel and Dust which was one of the first CDs I bought. Seeing Icehouse, I have the debut on cassette, been many years. I adored the title song in the 80s. I can get some New Wave kind of qualities in the Midnight Oil, but I had never thought of it as New Wave. I have read through these threads and I still don't get how New Wave is being defined for the albums lists. That might be worthy of its own non-poll topic. Think I have heard that whole Men Without Hats album, but all I remember is the title track.

All of these polls were compiled from Google's year-by-year lists of New Wave albums, which is how Suzanne Vega found her way onto this poll, even though I've never thought of her as a New Wave artist. Smile
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Pretty sure Suzanne Vega isn't New Wave but she gets my vote.
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The only one of these I own is Midnight Oil's Diesel and Dust which was one of the first CDs I bought. Seeing Icehouse, I have the debut on cassette, been many years. I adored the title song in the 80s. I can get some New Wave kind of qualities in the Midnight Oil, but I had never thought of it as New Wave. I have read through these threads and I still don't get how New Wave is being defined for the albums lists. That might be worthy of its own non-poll topic. Think I have heard that whole Men Without Hats album, but all I remember is the title track.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

none... or The Joshua Tree

At this stage, new wave was stale (10 years old) and became Old Wave

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none... or The Joshua Tree

At this stage, new wave was stale (10 years old) and became Old Wave
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