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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Pink Floyd - Not Now John and parts of the Wall album
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Illegal Alien was meant to be funny but it's just done in poor taste. 

"Pink Floyd - Not Now John and parts of the Wall album" - I don't see what's so wrong with The Wall and TFC (Not Now John).  
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Led Zeppelin - Sick Again. I don't know how people originally reacted to it, but that's become a lyrically incorrect (not so much politically) song which actually make me kind of uncomfortable.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:


I never much cared for "Fat Bottommed Girls" as a song or topic anyway.  Give me "Ogre Battle" or "Now I'm Here." 


Fat-shaming is not nice. But when the “sensitivity training” then leads to health-shaming, it can arguably be worse.
I can agree with that. But, there's no shaming in that song. It's more like a (horny) "Whole Lotta Rosie"-kind of tribute. As a song (and lyricwise) I find it pretty disposable too, but it's certainly a healthier and more positive "message" than the skinny teens seemingly most 1970's rockstars were into at the time.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Stressed Cheese Stressed Cheese wrote:

Fat Bottomed Girls isn't politically incorrect, it just might not be the most suitable for a kids' platform. 


I would disagree....I'm a certified US public school teacher (grades 6 through 12), and we go through all sorts of sensitivity training.  

Fat Bottommed Girls would be classified as "fat-ist," see https:///www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fatism

Almost any body-image is protected these days....kids with severe acne used to be mocked & reviled (e.g. "pizza face"), but that stuff gets students and teachers in big trouble in the USA.  And I think this is a good thing. 

I never much cared for "Fat Bottommed Girls" as a song or topic anyway.  Give me "Ogre Battle" or "Now I'm Here." 


Fat-shaming is not nice. But when the “sensitivity training” then leads to health-shaming, it can arguably be worse.
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Pink Floyd - Not Now John and parts of the Wall album
Genesis - Illegal Alien 
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I think the Ginga Rale Band is one of the best off the radar jazz-fusion bands of all time but on their one album they have not one but TWO songs with this unsavory title. Thankfully it's instrumental music.

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^ The beauty of parody --
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How about "Big Bottom" by Spinal Tap?
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Originally posted by Stressed Cheese Stressed Cheese wrote:

Fat Bottomed Girls isn't politically incorrect, it just might not be the most suitable for a kids' platform. 

I would disagree....I'm a certified US public school teacher (grades 6 through 12), and we go through all sorts of sensitivity training.  

Fat Bottommed Girls would be classified as "fat-ist," see https:///www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fatism

Almost any body-image is protected these days....kids with severe acne used to be mocked & reviled (e.g. "pizza face"), but that stuff gets students and teachers in big trouble in the USA.  And I think this is a good thing. 

I never much cared for "Fat Bottommed Girls" as a song or topic anyway.  Give me "Ogre Battle" or "Now I'm Here." 
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Knowing Rollins' politics I'm guessing if he met this little 'Lars von Retriever' idiot he'd probably break his nose.
You insulting the creator of the satire shows a leaning towards political correctness. Maybe even censorship?. How about this then:

No not really, it shows political opinion.   There's a difference.   I don't think the satire should be removed, and I don't think presidential politics has anything to do with 'political correctness'.   Presidents are bashed, and the bashers are bashed back.   So it goes.   I also happen to think Henry Rollins would want to break the guys nose... or at least the young Rollins.   
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ He means that political correctness (or in other words: woke ideology) is changing the way we speak and think in many ways that are not aligned with actual science or even common sense, pervading our education systems, undoing much of the progress we've had since the enlightenment. These days people are taught to support "the current thing" rather than think for themselves, and to attack people who do not think alike. Just like Atavachron was name-calling the creator of the Biden video that I posted.
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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

How has no one mentioned 'In the Flesh' off of 'The Wall'

The German authorities did on Roger Waters' tour this year. Him in the Nazi uniform singing these lyrics was used (among other things) as a basis to try to paint him as a bigotted anti-semite. Needless to say, the whole thing is clearly satire.
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How has no one mentioned 'In the Flesh' off of 'The Wall'
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Unfortunately we do seem to have made backwards steps from the values of the enlightenment. It's led to both "left" and "right" (so to speak) extremism, both fuelling each other's intolerance / closed-mindedness. The expression that comes of free-thinking and critical thinking commonly is discouraged and people are silenced by other's hostility -- people who wish to shut down conversation rather than explore ideas. The lazy labelling of people is one thing that has such a deleterious effect. Sad indeed.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ He means that political correctness (or in other words: woke ideology) is changing the way we speak and think in many ways that are not aligned with actual science or even common sense, pervading our education systems, undoing much of the progress we've had since the enlightenment. These days people are taught to support "the current thing" rather than think for themselves, and to attack people who do not think alike. Just like Atavachron was name-calling the creator of the Biden video that I posted.

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To each his own, I guess ... just another typical non-comment about something or other ... again!
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^ He means that political correctness (or in other words: woke ideology) is changing the way we speak and think in many ways that are not aligned with actual science or even common sense, pervading our education systems, undoing much of the progress we've had since the enlightenment. These days people are taught to support "the current thing" rather than think for themselves, and to attack people who do not think alike. Just like Atavachron was name-calling the creator of the Biden video that I posted.

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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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My thoughts are that anyone that is making comments about something being "politically incorrect" are the same folks that want to change our world into a bunch of folks wearing hijab's ... and I wish they wouldn't confuse these personal points with the reality in politics!

The corruption of the language, for various ideological and bizarre thoughts and ideas, is by far the worst ... and none of us seem to care that even the education of our children these days is going back to 100 years ago, hiding everything, so you think ... is great again!

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Hi,

My thoughts are that anyone that is making comments about something being "politically incorrect" are the same folks that want to change our world into a bunch of folks wearing hijab's ... and I wish they wouldn't confuse these personal points with the reality in politics!

The corruption of the language, for various ideological and bizarre thoughts and ideas, is by far the worst ... and none of us seem to care that even the education of our children these days is going back to 100 years ago, hiding everything, so you think ... is great again!

Politically Indifferent!
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