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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Nice. I wonder how long it would take to do the same with Jethro Tull
Not very long, as I only know Ian Anderson in Jethro Tull. Embarrassed

I'm currently working on a "Before They Were Famous" list for Ken Hensley and Uriah Heep which'll be coming up here shortly. Wink
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Nice. I wonder how long it would take to do the same with Jethro Tull
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Seems to be another album by The Syn - Illusion, this appears to be 2004 recordings but I struggled to find anything about it. Obviously not a new release but it is appearing on Apple as a 2023 release. Confused I am.
The original band only played live shows in the 60's before they merged into Yes.


Thanks. I just found the 2023 Illusion album on ProgArchives, which should've been the first place I looked. Smile


cheers, but the ultimate resource is not quite living up to its name

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1. Illusion (14:17)
2. Grounded 2004 (5:05)
3. Time and a Word (4:59)
4. A Tide in the Affairs of Man (7:45)
5. Time and a Word (Reprise) (3:37)

Total Time 35:43

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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Don't forget, Jon Anderson recorded the Association song "Never My Love" as (ahem) Hans Christian Anderson! 

It took me awhile, but I eventually found the Discogs page for singer/songwriter/storyteller "Hans Christian Anderson". Smile


You also reminded me to include a bit more info about Jon Christian Anderson in the intro. Wink

Thanks!  That bit of Jon's history is a bit obscure, even for longtime fans!
I may have jokingly referred to Jon as wondrous storyteller Jon Christian Anderson in the past, but I had no idea until yesterday that he'd actually recorded under the name Hans Christian, even if only for a brief time. Smile 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Don't forget, Jon Anderson recorded the Association song "Never My Love" as (ahem) Hans Christian Anderson! 

It took me awhile, but I eventually found the Discogs page for singer/songwriter/storyteller "Hans Christian Anderson". Smile


You also reminded me to include a bit more info about Jon Christian Anderson in the intro. Wink

Thanks!  That bit of Jon's history is a bit obscure, even for longtime fans!
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GENESIS          In the Beginning there were five members of Charterhouse School who One Day decided to form a band. That band was GENESIS. They were Looking for Someone to promote and produce their first album when a Window of opportunity came along in the shape of Jonathan King, a Duke of record producers working Behind the Lines at the time. The album "From Genesis to Revelation" entered a Land of Confusion and Misunderstanding though when many record stores placed the album in their religious music sections due to the religious-sounding title. The album and first single "Silent Sun" both flopped, and barely caused any Ripples in the music press either, despite Jonathan King Calling All Stations to try and promote the album and single on the radio. GENESIS' second single "A Winter's Tale" was also met with about as much indifference as A Fly on a Windshield by radio stations and barely No Reply at All from the music press. Their record company Decca became Entangled in a dispute when it was discovered there was another band in America called GENESIS, but by A Trick of the Tail, the band managed to keep their name Anyway by changing their name to "Revelation" in the United States.

The music business has always been as fickle as a Harlequin, where The Dividing Line between success and failure depends on a combination of good luck and hard work. Every new band is sailing through Uncertain Weather where they can easily be dragged down by the Undertow and Shipwrecked by having The Knife stuck into them by their record company or by the music press. That's All it takes to finish a band's career. There's Never a Time when it's been easy to make it in the tough music business, but Like It or Not, that's just the Way of the World. No astrological Watcher of the Skies can predict who's going to make it in today's cynical music industry, where the chances of success are about as hard as climbing a White Mountain of snow before the Fading Lights of Dusk close in.

After the Ordeal of seeing the commercial failure of their first album, GENESIS were In Limbo and left out In the Wilderness during a short period of Stagnation when the band members returned to their studies at Charterhouse. They weren't Down and Out or Taking It All Too Hard though, because making great music was far more than Just a Job to Do for the five talented band members. Contrary to being In HidingGENESIS were just Counting Out Time in The Waiting Room of The Cinema Show of life before returning to the recording studio. The band members were confident of The Musical Box of talent they had between them and their Horizons were positively bright with the general feeling that It's Gonna Get Better soon. GENESIS were working to a Time Table and they didn't plan on Living Forever on borrowed time, or waiting around each day until Supper's Ready. They were In Too Deep to consider Throwing It All Away at this late stage. The band were more than ready to Turn It On Again with an Invisible Touch of magic with the release of their next album, "Trespass". It would be several albums later though before GENESIS were basking in the warm Afterglow of a successful album release, followed by the Domino effect of success breeding further success in the proverbial Aisle of Plenty.

Although Genesis was the first band of the original five members (Tony Banks; Peter Gabriel; Anthony Phillips; Mike Rutherford; & drummer Chris Stewart) who all attended Charterhouse School together, the two later members of Genesis, Steve Hackett and Phil Collins, were both in previous bands before joining Genesis.


STEVE HACKETT         In 1970, shortly before Steve Hackett placed an ad in Melody Maker in search of a new band and expecting No Reply at All, Steve was in the prog band Quiet World with his brother John Hackett on flute, but it later turned out to be anything but a quiet world for Steve when Peter Gabriel  replied to his ad. Smile

4 stars 1970: Quiet World - The Road - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nlrQfqE_snhw9K6BxgtQYr4LjWkeZSVgQ


PHIL COLLINS       Do You Remember Flaming Youth? No, not many people do, but that was Phil Collins' first band in the flowering of his youth at the tender age of 18. At Face Value, Flaming Youth were a good band and they should have been a big success, but such are the vagaries of the music business that Against All Odds the band never managed to achieve a commercial breakthrough and they broke up in 1970. Flaming Youth are now just a footnote in Genesis' history, but they did remain together long enough to record one commendable album, and here it is.....

4 stars 1969: Flaming Youth - Ark 2 - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjlAupDY0gxFV-1HOBnbQX66waToo3AYv




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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Don't forget, Jon Anderson recorded the Association song "Never My Love" as (ahem) Hans Christian Anderson! 

It took me awhile, but I eventually found the Discogs page for singer/songwriter/storyteller "Hans Christian Anderson". Smile


You also reminded me to include a bit more info about Jon Christian Anderson in the intro. Wink


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Don't forget, Jon Anderson recorded the Association song "Never My Love" as (ahem) Hans Christian Anderson! 


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Originally posted by Hector Enrique Hector Enrique wrote:

Very good post Paul, congratulations. Very interesting information to explore. Thanks
Thanks. It's now become a collaborative effort too, with RichardH adding The Syn's 2023 Illusion album and Duddick adding Jon Anderson's first band, The Warriors, neither of which I was aware of, so there's a couple more albums there for me to explore too. Thumbs Up


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Very good post Paul, congratulations. Very interesting information to explore. Thanks
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Originally posted by Duddick Duddick wrote:

You forgot Jon Anderson started his career in the Wigan band The Warriors….
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eOu9C5302Sg

Thanks. I'd forgotten about Jon's first band, The Warriors. I even managed to find a full album by The Warriors on YouTube as well as a bespectacled Jon Anderson performing Mr. Nobody Nothing in 1967, two years before he became a Mr. somebody something with YES. Smile







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You forgot Jon Anderson started his career in the Wigan band The Warriors….
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eOu9C5302Sg
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Thanks for the info Paul..............I have a number of those spinoffs and side projects and my friend Tom in Colorado who is a graphic artist did the cover art for Syn-Trustworks and he sent a cd to me......I think he did some others also but not sure. Ill see if I can find out ..we email often.
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I thought about making a "Before They Were Famous" list for Genesis too, but with the exception of Phil Collins and Steve Hackett, Genesis was the very first band for the other four members who were studying at Charterhouse School at the time. Smile
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Seems to be another album by The Syn - Illusion, this appears to be 2004 recordings but I struggled to find anything about it. Obviously not a new release but it is appearing on Apple as a 2023 release. Confused I am.
The original band only played live shows in the 60's before they merged into Yes.


Thanks. I just found the 2023 Illusion album on ProgArchives, which should've been the first place I looked. Smile

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Thanks for the info Paul..............I have a number of those spinoffs and side projects and my friend Tom in Colorado who is a graphic artist did the cover art for Syn-Trustworks and he sent a cd to me......I think he did some others also but not sure. Ill see if I can find out ..we email often.
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Seems to be another album by The Syn - Illusion, this appears to be 2004 recordings but I struggled to find anything about it. Obviously not a new release but it is appearing on Apple as a 2023 release. Confused I am.
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Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

Agreed, a great post! Clap

I shall be investigating 'Mabel Greer's Toyshop' further! Smile
Thanks. The new Mabel Greer's Toyshop sound like YES might have sounded in an alternate prog universe. Smile
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Agreed, a great post! Clap

I shall be investigating 'Mabel Greer's Toyshop' further! Smile
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Originally posted by Mormegil Mormegil wrote:

VERY cool post - thank you!!

My pleasure. I was tempted to include a full "Before They Were Famous" list of YES band members, past and present, but that would've taken me all day. Tongue


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VERY cool post - thank you!!
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