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^^ I can use that article and Quantum Field Theory, which leaves no room for mysterious forces other than the ones we already know well.



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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Scalar waves are superluminal

So am I, but that's because I'm a pachyderm.
So, not an hyppopotamus


Yeah but does music exist?

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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ looking like scalar energy is the underpinning of everything. Nikola Tesla discovered this in the 1800s. Now that we are getting rid of bureaucratic roadblocks that keep this technology from being implemented on a more massive scale outside of black budget projects, the floodgates are opening.



You find one article that tries to debunk it again and consider that gospel?
Oh brother. This only works if you're scientifically illiterate LOL

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tachyons are purely hypotethical. M=m0/SQRT(1-v^2/c?)
translated: Inertial mass =rest mass divided by the square root ov 1 minus velocity squared over c squared.

So if v>c , M is the square root of a negative number. 
Does it make sense? 

"i" appears also in Schroedinger's equation, so the presence of the imaginary unit doesn't seem to be a problem, but...

replace M with T and Time will flow backwards

The key is "Inertia". It's another thing that we know exists, but we don't know exactly what it is.
In my non-scientific opinion, is the resistanceof spacetime to motion.

Let me explain: assume that spacetime is discontinuous, and the minimum cell of spacetime is based on the Planck length. A particle is made of at least 4 Planck lengths squared (from the black hole entropy computed by Hawking).
A particle is a sort of "information" that's the sum of some spacetime cells. This information means mass, charge, colour and whatever measurables. 
Movement means transferring this information, or part of it to other cells (adjacent or not), and this transfer requires time. 

Apart of this idea, in order to accelerate, that means increasing v, me must spend energy, but energy increases the inertial mass, so to accelerate further you need more energy. 
This is asyntotic to c.  

In the tachyons world, you need energy to decelerate, so they can't be slowed down to c. 
How should the spacetime cells behave in that world? 



 
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ looking like scalar energy is the underpinning of everything. Nikola Tesla discovered this in the 1800s. Now that we are getting rid of bureaucratic roadblocks that keep this technology from being implemented on a more massive scale outside of black budget projects, the floodgates are opening.

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"Time is a flat circle" - Nietzsche.

That's simple enough. 
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Scalar waves are superluminal

So am I, but that's because I'm a pachyderm.
So, not an hyppopotamus
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Scalar waves are superluminal

So am I, but that's because I'm a pachyderm.


Well you deserve a cape then!



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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ Electricity is one of the most underappreciated energies, and may be responsible for much more than we think.
From a physics standpoint electricity (or rather: electromagnetism) is the only force relevant in our daily lives. Gravity is also relevant, but it is not really a force Smile

And evidently not yet fully understood in the public domain---   I currently take the gravitational wave hypothesis to indicate gravity waves emanate from space, contact an object with mass, reflect off of that mass, and cause the attraction we experience on Earth.   If applied and harnessed, this may be how antigravitation ~ or "zero-point" ~ could be used to propel an object, ergo the UAP phenomenon (?) .

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Scalar waves are superluminal

So am I, but that's because I'm a pachyderm.
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^ looking like scalar energy is the underpinning of everything. Nikola Tesla discovered this in the 1800s. Now that we are getting rid of bureaucratic roadblocks that keep this technology from being implemented on a more massive scale outside of black budget projects, the floodgates are opening.


Article excerpt from this site:

What Is Scalar Energy?

Scalar energy is considered, by the relatively few who know it exists, as potentially the greatest discovery in the history of science. Mostly referred to by the term 'scalar fields' or 'scalar energy', other terms used to describe this property of the universe are information fields, longitudinal waves, zero-point energy, tachyon, orgone, radiant energy, gravitic waves, quintessence, standing waves, and Tesla fields.  The subject of scalar ties intimately into quantum mechanics and quantum field theory.

Scalar fields exist as the informational/non-physical component of all matter, but in this article we will be discussing them mainly in relation to electromagnetic fields (EMFs).  Every EM wave has a component called the transverse wave, and another component called the longitudinal (scalar) wave.

Transverse waves are the part of the EMF that can be measured by meters, because they exist fully in 3-space (three-dimensional space) and are easily measurable. The term transverse refers to the up-and-down, oscillating motion of this wave moving through 3D space.  They are also called Hertzian waves, and produce measurable frequencies.  Transverse waves are what are currently being used in electricity and telecommunications, since they were more easily detectable and quantifiable to early scientists and electrical engineers.

The longitudinal (scalar) component of the EM wave does not exist normally in 3-space. It moves along the axis of time itself, the 4th dimension.  This sounds mysterious and may be hard to understand without delving deeply into quantum mechanics, but time is considered to be simply compressed energy, compressed by the factor of the speed of light squared.  Scalar waves are superluminal, which means they move faster than the speed of light, because they are unbounded by the limitations of 3D space. Also, since they don’t exist in the third dimension in the same way that matter does, they move through the empty space between all matter.  They are not limited or blocked by physical obstructions in space, like transverse EM waves are.

The scalar component of an electromagnetic field is about 5 times stronger than the transverse component.  For example, if your EMF meter picks up 100 milligauss, this is just a reading of the transverse wave that emits a measurable frequency, and the invisible scalar component will be around 500 milligauss.

Although scalar fields cannot be detected by a standard meter, they are readily picked up by living organisms.  All living things produce their own scalar energy (called bio-scalar), and are sensitive to scalar energy in their environment.  The Earth is constantly producing a variety of ever-changing scalar fields, with which our bodies have evolved.

Contrary to seemingly prevalent beliefs in the inherent goodness of scalar, scalar fields aren’t good or bad.  Their healing and constructive effects, or destructive effects, depends on how they are produced, exactly what information is being carried by the scalar component, and the coherent or incoherent fields that can be used for either harmonizing or destructive purposes.


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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ Electricity is one of the most underappreciated energies, and may be responsible for much more than we think.

From a physics standpoint electricity (or rather: electromagnetism) is the only force relevant in our daily lives. Gravity is also relevant, but it is not really a force Smile
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Being is part of an eternal present prior to all pasts. When someone looked at their watch 50 years ago, it was now. Our watches always show the present. Everything that exists as a representation is constituted now.
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^ most advanced technologies created by indie scientists find themselves confiscated by the alphabet agencies and then the patents acquired by the US under the guise of "national security." Of course it all exists, most likely even time travel. Correct about engineering being given into calculated doses but my point was that at least engineers who build bridges and airplanes have to know what they're doing. Most other sciences simply rely on computer programs to feed them preestablished concepts and equations.

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

Excluding consciousness from science is a major factor in the progress or hinderance of scientific understanding.

The holographic principle is gaining a lot of traction in the scientific community, Leanard Susskind is a major proponent of it. I’m not sure where he stands on consciousness creating our reality, but it certainly resonates with me. Again, science has reduced everything to just 2 components, energy and consciousness.  If they take that last step to condense it further, they’ll realize that it’s all consciousness.

What would happen if we played the reduction game with space/time?  If you do that with time, reducing the past and future, you get to a single point that can be called Now. If you do that with space, you get to a single point that can be called Here.  So, everything exists, Here and Now.



After the robber barrons bankrupted Nikola Tesla they began to divorce spirit or what Tesla called aether from the sciences. Before that spirituality and science were pretty much unified in most cultures (European cultures and diasporas the exception). After spending a decade in colleges and studying the "orthodox" ways of learning i later discovered that most of what is presented as fact is really just conjecture. The only discipline in modern science i could call relevant is engineering. Everything else is only presented to the public in calculated doses and super advanced physics is classified in black budget projects.

As far as time goes it's very possible all time exists simultaneously and how we perceive it is what makes it "time." Those who participated in the Montauk Projects have stated as much. Sounds possible to me.


I think engineering is also presented to the public in calculated doses.  Is there any real funding for free energy generation?  The concept of zero point energy was introduced over a hundred years ago.  It was proven for the first time in the late 50’s via the Casimir effect.  Since then it was verified many times over all over the world.  I’m willing to bet Tesla figured it out and that technology was buried along with many other things the public doesn’t know about.


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Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

Excluding consciousness from science is a major factor in the progress or hinderance of scientific understanding.

The holographic principle is gaining a lot of traction in the scientific community, Leanard Susskind is a major proponent of it. I’m not sure where he stands on consciousness creating our reality, but it certainly resonates with me. Again, science has reduced everything to just 2 components, energy and consciousness.  If they take that last step to condense it further, they’ll realize that it’s all consciousness.

What would happen if we played the reduction game with space/time?  If you do that with time, reducing the past and future, you get to a single point that can be called Now. If you do that with space, you get to a single point that can be called Here.  So, everything exists, Here and Now.



After the robber barrons bankrupted Nikola Tesla they began to divorce spirit or what Tesla called aether from the sciences. Before that spirituality and science were pretty much unified in most cultures (European cultures and diasporas the exception). After spending a decade in colleges and studying the "orthodox" ways of learning i later discovered that most of what is presented as fact is really just conjecture. The only discipline in modern science i could call relevant is engineering. Everything else is only presented to the public in calculated doses and super advanced physics is classified in black budget projects.

As far as time goes it's very possible all time exists simultaneously and how we perceive it is what makes it "time." Those who participated in the Montauk Projects have stated as much. Sounds possible to me.



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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Einstein was only one scientist who proposed theories
 
I didn't mention Einstein. I've been a regular visitor of a number of science forums over the past 20 years or more, and crackpots who claim Einstein's theories are wrong are a dime a dozen. Most have a flawed understanding of the theories, and their claims are easily refuted. A common mistake is to refer specifically to Einstein as if he is THE authority on the theories, failing to recognise that more than 100 years have passed since Einstein published those theories, and that those theories have moved on since Einstein.
 
What is your understanding of general relativity? When I said that I know that the gravity with which we are familiar is a consequence of gravitational time dilation, it is because I have personally done the mathematics that establishes this result. One thing about mathematics is that, with the appropriate skills, anyone can do it. It's not subject to the deception that conspiracy theorists claim exists in science. General relativity is a highly mathematical theory, and I see its essential correctness as a result of its mathematical underpinning more so than its many experimental confirmations. However, the Pound-Rebka experiment does more or less prove that the spacetime surrounding earth is curved. Science doesn't normally speak of proofs, but because spacetime curvature is the result of a measurement, it is a factual notion. I say this because it seems to me that many people think of spacetime curvature as an abstract notion. But as a factual notion, it is clear that this must be THE cause of earth's gravity.
 



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Excluding consciousness from science is a major factor in the progress or hinderance of scientific understanding.

The holographic principle is gaining a lot of traction in the scientific community, Leanard Susskind is a major proponent of it. I’m not sure where he stands on consciousness creating our reality, but it certainly resonates with me. Again, science has reduced everything to just 2 components, energy and consciousness.  If they take that last step to condense it further, they’ll realize that it’s all consciousness.

What would happen if we played the reduction game with space/time?  If you do that with time, reducing the past and future, you get to a single point that can be called Now. If you do that with space, you get to a single point that can be called Here.  So, everything exists, Here and Now.

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The formula thai I posted has an error. Under square root it's 1 - v^2/c^2
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The formula thai I posted has an errorunder square root it's 1 - v^2/c^2
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