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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38654 |
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I don't know if King Crimson is underappreciated during the last stretch of its career, but I would not expect that to be as appreciated as its first stretch (1969 through 1974). Radical Action (To Unseat the Hold of Monkey Mind) is a highly regarded modern KC live album.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19326 |
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King Crimson aren't underrated. Maybe among non prog fans but they are typically one of the first prog bands people discover these days (or any day).
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^And by regular rock fans-- they often blew Tool away during preliminary shows in 2001/2002 as I understand it, despite a few misled & disgruntled Toolers.
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12858 |
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I don't know about during that 95-03 period, but The Power to Believe has become one of their best rated albums. Also, at the very last stretch of their career, during the 2010's touring, they were indeed very greatly appreciated... by prog fans, that is.
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Hi,
As an entity that has created so much music, KING CRIMSON deserves any and all accolades. Very few groups do so much work for so long and get appreciated, and this alone is a reason for it being an important group in the list of things. I think it is just fine that some like this period or that period, since everyone does the same thing to Beethoven and Picasso, but in the end, the totality of the work is impossible to ignore and not appreciate. It is, by very far ... one of the best and as my friend said after we saw it in Seattle (w/ the three drummers) ... "it puts a new meaning into what music is ... " and I think that we need to say thank you for the work, and its wonderful moments! End of story!
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15493 |
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I'm not so keen on Power to Believe and ConstruKction. I like Thrak a lot though, and particularly I am very happy having seen their 2010s-2020s incarnation with the three drummers live on stage. OK they played mostly old material, but the rearrangements were something very special. The live albums from this period are also very good as far as I know them, so 1995-2003 should definitely not be called "final stretch of their career" (good work was also still coming from ProjeKcts), and I prefer their "final final stretch" if that was actually final.
The 80s trilogy for me was pretty much the best three album run of any band ever by the way, but the thread opener apparently wasn't so interested in discussing these. Edited by Lewian - December 10 2024 at 05:46 |
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ObeisantBread84 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: September 05 2024 Location: America Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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I personally think nothing King Crimson did in the 80s or 90s comes close to their consistent 60s and 70s run. We got all time classics like Red, In the court, Lark's Tongues, In the Wake, Islands, and more. Discipline is also really good but it doesn't really feel like a king crimson album to me.
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Valdez ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1185 |
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I can happily listen to just about all of their albums no matter who is in the band, except for thrakattak and projekct X . I like toapp better than discipline and beat . Court Poseidon and Lizard are my favorites. Jakko did a good job overall on the last tour and having Mel along really aced it. PtBelieve is good except for all that slow Bude stuff IMO.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30251 |
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My appreciation of King Crimson is all over the place. I probaly like the latter part of their career more than a lot of earlier stuff but that is mainly because of Power To Believe. I can't stand 80's KC and mostly don't like Lizard, Islands, LTIA but like some of ITCOTKC, ITWOP and Starless and Bible Black. But for the brilliant Red I would not care about that period of the band. However they were an experimental band and pushed boundaries and so they exhibit many of the traits that are supposed to be what progressive rock was about. And they didn't do 'AOR' ever and that is massively to their credit.
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Valdez ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1185 |
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ConstruKction is densely recorded, and I think heavily compressed and not very dynamic because of it. A very flat sound throughout... Otherwise a great album.
Like Thyroidglands says... oyster soup...meh. Heavy Construkction is the go-to for hearing what TCoL has to offer. 100% Soooo much better.
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https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/maxwells-submarine
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65811 |
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Keep in mind Discipline introduced KC to a whole new generation who were blown away by this "new band" and their technical & songwriting feats, and revitalized them to an older crowd who had written them off or just forgotten them. If you were a musician in the early 80s and not listening to it, you were missing out big time. Even HwWYHtbHW and TPtB was influencing young players who didn't know progressive rock was a thing until they'd be at a Tool concert or something in 2001/02 and see the band open the show.
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I'm going to overlook your opinion just because of your Cardiacs avatar. 😅
The ConstruKction of Light is a great album. The World's My Oyster Soup Kitchen Floor Wax Museum (I think I wrote it correctly) is a weak track, but the rest are very good.
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I'd say they were underappreciated. I am a ConstruKtion defender through and through!
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19326 |
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Never heard of them.
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republicasolska ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: November 30 2024 Location: Alabama Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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No. Basically everything after the 70s is nonsense.
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my question is simple. was king crimson undeappricaited during the final strech of their career? (1995-2003)(function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'8e7ac3c0e8735c7a',t:'MTczMjQ2NTYyOC4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: none; visibility: ;">
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