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    Posted: 3 hours 11 minutes ago at 12:08
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Commonly people get more conservative and status quo, same-old, same-old, as they get older.


I think I'm in this category.... I seem to have receded into a Mike Oldfield / TD / Froese / Vangelis vortex of late, re-appearing for occasional doses of Camel or Floyd. I'm getting quite concerned as I've been stuck here for a little while now.


That's a vortex I'd happily be in. I so want to make a Zardoz reference... I'm at the nostalgia point of reliving childhood memories by turning on my streaming services and just wanting to watch TV shows or movies that I enjoyed as a child commonly (sci-fi stuff). I have to force myself out of it. At sometimes my poor brain has difficulty with new-to-me things, be it music, TV shows, films or concepts.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Commonly people get more conservative and status quo, same-old, same-old, as they get older.


I think I'm in this category.... I seem to have receded into a Mike Oldfield / TD / Froese / Vangelis vortex of late, re-appearing for occasional doses of Camel or Floyd. I'm getting quite concerned as I've been stuck here for a little while now.
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^ Thanks, I should give U2's Bot another spin at some time. I've seen it getting positive comments in PA from a few people over the past few years (like in a topic by Paul). The only U2 album I have heard in full more than couple of times that I can recall is The Joshua Tree

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


As for Jared's, I like the Tangerine Dream's and have liked the Eloy's, and should check out the Sky again.


tbh, my problem is that I like to take part in your threads, because you help keep the forum alive with all the hard work you put in to it...

yet, you almost know what it is that I'm going to post, before I get around to it... very predictable with few surprises. I like what I like...


No worries, I think that most forum regulars who have been around for quite a while would be quite predictable to those who pay attention, and not just when it comes to music tastes. Many of us repeat the same names, the same style, attitudes, and the same kinds of points again and again.

I like a sense of predictability, would make trading stocks and much in life easier. Life has more than enough uncertainty. :) I think the most value I add to this forum is minusing things, like spam, which I do daily, by the way.

I've been told that my choices have got too same-y and tend to just appeal to the same select group of people again and again. And some have expressed dissatisfaction in my not adding more, to them, obvious or mainstream prog choices throughout my years here. I like to see diversity from the community, and my tastes have often been more on the fringes of Prog (progressive but not so Prog genre as some, and not as much of a rocker as many).

That said, my primary interests (both acts and genres) are more mutable as I get into different things which ignite new passions. But I have not seen what I might think of as particularly significant changes in my interests for a few years. And I anyway, I always commonly favoured atmospheric types of music, just got into some other atmospheric and cinematic music. I think Jerry Goldsmith and John Barry set the tone to quite an extent when I was a child for my future interests. Commonly people get more conservative and status quo, same-old, same-old, as they get older.

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1980 in PA:

1. Mike Rutherford - Smallcreep's Day
2. Yes - Drama
3. Genesis - Duke
4. Steve Hackett - Defector
5. Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Chance

1980 Not in PA:

1. U2 - Boy
2. Steve Winwood - Arc of a Diver
3. Haden/Garbarek/Gismonti - Magico
4. Wayne Shorter - Et Cetera
5. Keith Jarrett - The Celestial Hawk
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Having better time now, I've added genres on my list.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


As for Jared's, I like the Tangerine Dream's and have liked the Eloy's, and should check out the Sky again.


tbh, my problem is that I like to take part in your threads, because you help keep the forum alive with all the hard work you put in to it...

yet, you almost know what it is that I'm going to post, before I get around to it... very predictable with few surprises. I like what I like...
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Thanks for the lists. Richard has a number I like very much like Siouxsie and The Banshees' Kaleidoscope, Kate Bush's Never for Ever, and Peter Gabriel's Melt especially, and I like the Tangerine Dreams (those need more spin-time with me).

I used to really like that Police album (it's on my longer list), but I just have not listened to it in quite a number of years. I have enjoyed the Rush (also on my longer list). As I had mentioned in the Cristi topic that Cristi linked to, I had a major Rushhead housemate. That Rushhead did end up giving me something of a Rush headache (not my favourite headache to have, to reference something Geddy Lee). And that's the person who introduced me to Yes in the 80s. I have not listened to Permanent Waves for many years in full. And I have liked that The Enid album, by not heard in about 20 years. While the album never really connected with me on the whole, Duke has some music I really like.

As for Cristi's list, oh I used to love Icehouse's Flowers, I need to listen again and Ultravox's Vienna is a stone cold classic. I need to listen to that again too. In high school I was quite into WhiteSnake, I had heard the Vent D'Est album before, listening now, yep, nice album.

As for Jared's, I like the Tangerine Dream's and have liked the Eloy's, and should check out the Sky again. As for Civilian, I might quote Douglas Adams and call it mostly harmless if one is into rather uninspired and AORish pop rock. While I wanted to be positive, and I am not bashing it, twenty years ago especially I was huge on Gentle Giant and I bought all of the studio albums. I really liked the first eight. The other three, not, so not so safe for me. It was my least appreciated, even below Giant for a Day, on which I did quite like Spooky Boogie.

And from David's list, Joy Division's Closer is a particular favourite album of mine, and I like the Bauhaus very much. That same friend who I mentioned being a major Rushhead who I shared a townhouse with (at a ski resort called Whistler) offered me good money to destroy my Bauhaus CD (it was the compilation album Volume One 1979-1983). I refused, and was tempted to throw him a yin and yang lumber punch (go taste a tart, then eat my lunch). I put on the Gunesh Ensemble (youtube streaming), enjoying it now. :)
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Agnus (ARG)   Pinturas Y Expresiones    (1980, Progressive Rock)
Asia Minor (F)   Between Flash And Divine    (1980, Progressive Rock)
Bauhaus (UK)   In The Flat Field    (1980, Gothic Rock, Post-Punk)
Diamond Head (UK)   Lightning to the Nations   (1980, NWOBHM)
Ian Dury & The Blockheads (UK)   Laughter    (1980, New Wave, Pub Rock)
The “Gunesh” Ensemble (USSR)   Gunesh   (1980, Jazz Fusion, Jazz-Rock)          
Joy Division (UK)   Closer    (1980, Post-Punk, Gothic Rock)
Kræn Bysted (DK)   Stavnsbundet    (1980, Folk-Rock)
Hazel O’Connor (UK)   Breaking Glass   (1980, New Wave, Film Soundtrack)
Yello (CH)    Solid Pleasure   (1980, Synthpop, Electronic)

only a couple of Prog and quite a lot of different genres

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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

^^ that's fine... I've nothing particularly against any of them, except I would describe them as 'safe'.


Kinda safe. All three of them tried something new, but in a more accessible way.
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^^ that's fine... I've nothing particularly against any of them, except I would describe them as 'safe'.
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

14) GG: Civilian
15) Nektar: Man In The Moon


These two are not bad at all.


no, they are both quite listenable but they are the symptom of the age, like MMEB's Chance, which I could have also included. They just aren't prog, or a patch on what either band had produced during the '70's..


I've always enjoyed MMEB's Chance
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

14) GG: Civilian
15) Nektar: Man In The Moon


These two are not bad at all.


no, they are both quite listenable but they are the symptom of the age, like MMEB's Chance, which I could have also included. They just aren't prog, or a patch on what either band had produced during the '70's..
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

14) GG: Civilian
15) Nektar: Man In The Moon


These two are not bad at all.

Edited by Cristi - 11 hours 10 minutes ago at 04:09
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Jon & Vangelis - Short Stories



I'm pleased our Top 3 are identical, and I didn't see yours before posting.

Isn't Short Stories 1979??

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1) Rush: Permanent Waves
2) Eloy: Colours
3) Sky: Sky 2
4) TD: Pergamon/ Quichotte
5) Oldfield: QE2
6) Hawkwind: Levitation
7) Hackett: Defector
8) Anyone's Daughter: s/t
9) TD: Tangram
10) Yes: Drama

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11) Tull: A
12) Genesis: Duke
13) Vangelis: See You Later
14) GG: Civilian
15) Nektar: Man In The Moon
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Rousseau - Flower in Asphalt
Vent D'Est – s/t (obscure French prog, quite good)
ARC - Maquette (another solid French prog obscurity)
Kenso - s/t
CHOICE - Just a Dream (German prog band)
Kerry Livgren - Seeds Of Change
Steve Walsh - Schemer Dreamer

Angel Witch - s/t
The Michael Schenker Group - s/t
Icehouse - Flowers
Ultravox - Vienna
WhieSnake - Ready An' Willing
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My top twenty. I do at least venture a little bit oustide of prog here and there

(S) Rush - Permanent Waves (listened extensively) [SPO]
    Prog Rock
(S) Eloy - Colours (listened extensively) [SPO]
    Prog Rock
(S) Sky - Sky 2 (listened extensively) [SPO]
    Prog Rock
(S) Tangerine Dream - Tangram (listened extensively) [SPO]
    Prog-Adj Electronic
(S) Tangerine Dream - Quichotte (Live, listened extensively) [AP Prog-Adj] [SPO]
    Prog-Adj Electronic
(S) Kate Bush - Never For Ever (listened extensively) [SPO]
    Prog-Adj Pop
(S) The Enid - Six Pieces (listened extensively) [SPO]
    Prog Rock
(A) Genesis - Duke (listened extensively) [SPO]
    Prog Rock
(A) Yes - Drama (listened extensively) [SPO]
    Prog Rock
(A) Steve Hackett - Defector (listened extensively) [SPO]
    Prog Rock
(A) Peter Gabriel - Melt (listened extensively) [BC, SPO]
    Prog-Adj Pop
(A) The Police - Zenyatta Mondatta (listened often) [AP Non-Prog] [SPO]
    Non-Prog Rock
(A) Mike Oldfield - QE2 (listened extensively) [SPO]
    Prog-Adj Rock
(A) Keith Emerson - Inferno (Soundtrack, listened extensively) [SPO]
    Crossover Prog
(A) Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden (listened often) [SPO]
    Prog Related
(A) Queen - Flash Gordon (Soundtrack, listened extensively) [SPO]
    Prog Related
(A) Siouxsie and The Banshees - Kaleidoscope (listened often) [AP Non-Prog] [SPO]
    Non-Prog Rock
(B) Kayak - Periscope Life (listened extensively) [SPO]
    Crossover Prog
(B) Jon & Vangelis - Short Stories (listened often) [SPO]
    Prog Related
(B) Vangelis - See You Later (listened extensively)
    Prog-Adj Pop
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Okay thanks. I wish more people would make lists at Awesome Prog, by the way, through the years. I want to try to figure out some way to make dynamic lists which encourage as much interaction between participants as possible...

Here, by the way, is the top 10 for 1980 in PA's charts:

1. Rush - Permanent Waves (Heavy Prog)
2. Peter Gabriel 3 [Aka: Melt] (Crossover Prog)
3. Asia Minor - Between Flesh And Divine (Symphonic Prog)
4. Present - Triskaïdékaphobie (RIO/Avant-Prog)
5. Spinetta Jade - Alma De Diamante (Jazz Rock/Fusion)
6. Zamla Mammaz Manna - Familjesprickor (RIO/Avant-Prog)
7. Tangerine Dream - Tangram (Progressive Electronic)
8. Hawkwind - Levitation (Psychedelic/Space Rock)
9. Kate Bush - Never For Ever (Crossover Prog)
10. Itoiz - Ezekiel (Prog Folk)

To reiterate, this is not meant to just be about individuals coming together to each list ten or so of their favourite albums, it's supposed to be interactive where we also compare our lists and comment on other's choices. And I would hope for it to be more conversational than most list-type topics.

And just because I want to and there's no momentum, here is my top 30:

Art Zoyd - Génération sans Futur (listened extensively)
Joy Division - Closer [AP Non-Prog]
Bobby Beausoleil - Lucifer Rising (ost)
Siouxsie and The Banshees - Kaleidoscope [AP Non-Prog]
Abus Dangereux - Le Quatrieme Mouvement
Eskaton - Ardeur
Glenn Branca - Lesson No. 1 (EP) [AP Prog]
Picchio Dal Pozzo - Abbiamo Tutti I Suoi Problemi
Kate Bush - Never For Ever
Gary Numan - Telekon [AP]
Tuxedomoon - Half-Mute [AP]
Terry Riley - Shri Camel
Present - Triskaidekaphobie
Zamla Mammaz Manna - Familjesprickor (Family Cracks)
Bauhaus - In the Flat Field (listened often) [AP Non-Prog]
森田童子 - ラスト・ワルツ Un, deux, trois (listened often) [AP Non-Prog]
Snakefinger - Greener Postures
Peter Gabriel - Melt (listened often)
Tangerine Dream - Tangram
Kitaro - Silk Road Volume 2 [AP]
Peter Hammill - A Black Box
Aksak Maboul - Un Peu De L'Âme Des Bandits
Kitaro - Silk Road Volume 1 [AP]
Itoiz - Ezekiel
Talking Heads - Remain in Light
Slapp Happy - Acnalbasac Noom
Captain Beefheart - Doc At The Radar Station
David Bowie - Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps)
Tangerine Dream - Quichotte (Live) [AP Prog-Adj]
The Sound - Jeopardy [AP Non-Prog]
Wipers - Is This Real? [AP Non-Prog]

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I'll see what i can add to that poll list.
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^ Yep, four years ago, thanks, and I responded to it. I voted for Melt. And I did this poll much more recently: https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=134594 I have done various ones for 1980 over the years. And many others have too done polls and lists for 1980. I was hoping this could be different approach.

This is what I wrote in your topic (it didn't add to any conversation nor was worth commenting on or getting a "thanks", but... I'm not a good conversationalist):

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The albums I know I've heard in full are Civilian (which was a disappointment compared to the first eight -- I bought GG"s whole discography in almost one fell swoop -- thought I was doing very well financially at the time), Peter Gabriel's Melt which I bought when searching for some specific music from, as it turns out, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway pre having internet (already loved Games Without Frontiers from Melt anyway), Rush's Permanent Waves (never owned but a friend of mine I shared a townhouse with was majorly into Rush and so I heard it quite a few times), Genesis - Duke (don't own but have heard), and Eloy - Colours. Also have heard Anyone's Daughter. I'm voting for Melt.



Off course this is meant for both our Prog and non-Prog faves, which my poll covered. I have wanted to move away from polls . I wrote this for my opening post originally to kind of show where I am coming from but opted not to add it (bit redundant and emo perhaps).

Although I have enjoyed the exercise of preparing polls and many of the responses, an issue I have had is that they hardly ever seem to appeal to enough people despite my approach, and thus people often express their dissatisfaction with the choices and others who I would have expected to like and comment on things don't post. I like topics that can reach out to the wider community often, and be welcoming to all (mostly) to comment and have discussions together.

I have been dissatisfied with making polls often because while I do get wonderful comments, quite often people will express their displeasure in the choices (I commonly tend to like enthusiasm). And when I have tried to be more diverse, others who I would have expected to find things they appreciate to comment on, and whose topics I can usually find albums/acts/tracks to comment on, are often silent. I'm not a good people person, I prefer to limit the people I am personally around, and yet want to make connections with more, diverse people online.

But I still tend to see more conversation and positive feedback in polls with lists than list topic of the top ten variety. With lists, just my preference, I would prefer topics where we look at each other's lists and try to find other people's mention to comment on rather than just making our own lists. I like thee more socially interactive topics.

For this I wanted everyone's individual favourites both Prog and not (or one or the other) and for us to express out interest in each other's lists/ choices and discuss more rather than just listing our own.

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