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Gnik Nosmirc ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2024 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 330 |
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So far I've been really enjoying maudlin of the Well, Intronaut and Sight. |
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ThyroidGlands ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2023 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 439 |
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Traditional progressive metal (heavy, power, symphonic). Except for Dream Theater. On the other hand, I like extreme metal (thrash, black, death, grindcore, etc) in almost all its forms (including progressive).
I’d also say neo-prog—I’ve tried many bands, and I just can’t listen to it; I find it extremely boring. I think what bothers me the most is that many of those bands have an extremely modern sound. That gente should have started and ended with Marillion (one of my favorite bands). Jazz-rock and jazz fusion don’t move me at all either. A lot of virtuosity but little feeling. Really boring music for me. Edited by ThyroidGlands - May 22 2025 at 19:04 |
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Gnik Nosmirc ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2024 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 330 |
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With the exception of Dream Theater—personally, I find them the epitome of cheesy symphonic prog metal. That said, Petrucci is undeniably an incredibly skilled guitarist.
I agree with your take on the rest of metal, though. I wouldn’t call myself a metal enthusiast by any stretch, but I’m definitely more drawn to its experimental side. Regarding neo-prog, I mostly agree—though I wouldn’t go as far as calling Marillion my favorite band. As for jazz-rock, that’s actually what introduced me to prog in the first place. I’m also a big fan of classic jazz, so I can’t really agree with your stance there. Just listen to Holdsworth’s solo on Fred with Tony Williams—absolutely phenomenal! Edited by Gnik Nosmirc - May 22 2025 at 20:25 |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30251 |
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It certainly makes me not want to like them. King Crimson I accept were more experimental and so respect that but I don't really love about 70% of their music Gentle Giant are just a plain weird band that occupy their own space. I like them occasionally but their albums are mostly some form of organised chaos and I don't dig that a lot personally ( hence why I'm not a fan of Zappa) VDGG were that very typical art school band. Actually if the term 'art rock' was more in use then I would call them that more than anything. 'eclectic' is not really what they are , much of it sounds the same because they never pushed the envelope with using different styles like say the aforementioned GG. I like them because they embrace the darkness and really had their sh*t together a lot earlier than many bands of the time. Yep in general, genre labels are not very helpful as you say. |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30251 |
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The term 'progressive rock' exists for a reason. It was rock progressing into other areas not classical music progressing into rock music. Classical music had pretty much progressed as far as it could go probably about a 100 years ago. Rock music may employ some classical instruments but ultimately its about amplifying a small number of instruments behind (normally) a human voice. The sixties is indeed an amazing time for art and culture coming out of the post war boom and leaving behind austerity. Rock music is invented partly because of better technology combined with the rise of the festival and the hippy culture. Our beloved genre is really only an ofshoot. Guys like Keith Emerson are important but none of them reinvented the wheel. They saw an opportunity to get away from the 9-5 grind and took it but it's still ultimately rock music first and foremost. Just imagine ELP without Carl Palmer. It's just not happening and Keith Emerson is back to working in a bank. |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19325 |
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wiz_d_kidd ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 13 2018 Location: EllicottCityMD Status: Online Points: 1499 |
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When I claimed I don't like Neo-prog because of the vocals, I wondered if there was such a thing as "instrumental neo-prog" or is that an oxymoron?
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"Instrumental music is an expression that words can never capture." -- Peter Baumann
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21804 |
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^ To me the whiny vocals are a defining element of neo-prog.
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Rick1 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 14 2020 Location: Loughborough UK Status: Offline Points: 3120 |
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It is the conscious labelling of prog genres that I dislike. For example, I often think the word 'metal' gets slipped in to appeal to a wider audience. It is like a form of commodification.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21804 |
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Today I improved the prog spectrum page at AP, it's much more accurate now (but there is of course still room for improvement).
Have a look if you're interested in a more flexible approach at categorizing prog and let me know what you think about it! https://awesomeprog.com/prog-spectrum/psych |
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zwordser ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 04 2008 Location: Southwest US Status: Offline Points: 1399 |
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I can't say I dislike any sub-genre. Used to not care for Tech-Extreme Metal, but I've warmed up to it a lot.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21804 |
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I really do not dislike any genre of music. I have some that I might call "least favorite", but even in Country, Opera or probably even Euro Dance music I'll probably find some tracks that I like or at least appreciate as a decent effort.
Having said that, there's really bad music in every genre as well. So it's really not about genre, it's about quality. Food for thought: |
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7519 |
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Zeuhl is about the only sub-genre that I never warmed up to. I need to keep trying!
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18594 |
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HI, As much as I like MAGMA, I have found that a lot of stuff after it, is not satisfying as far as I feel about it ... maybe there is a soul missing behind it which you can enjoy and appreciate the minute you see the band in concert ... it really gets into you, and that would not happen if the music and work did not have some strong inner drive and fiber in it, which I think MAGMA does have. If that is not enough, by the time you get that release a couple of years back of the work with an orchestra and Christian doing all the singing, you know immediately that this is special ... that album is astonishing, and in my book takes things into another dimension. It doesn't fit an area like this, sometimes, because it has something else in it, that this side can not break into, other than look at it as a bunch of songs, which I don't think is something that Christian Vander would be interested in as far as MAGMA is concerned, but might happen elsewhere though not as MAGMA. The only thing that is scary for me, is folks thinking of the "evil" look and its dark/black image in pictures and albums ... which is not something I would criticize as some folks are color blind, and things would be light or dark for the most part (I think!!!) |
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wiz_d_kidd ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 13 2018 Location: EllicottCityMD Status: Online Points: 1499 |
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I'm the same way, but I have learned to enjoy VAK and Universal Totem Orchestra. They're a little easier to digest (for me) than Magma. |
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"Instrumental music is an expression that words can never capture." -- Peter Baumann
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38654 |
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If Charles has not listened to Universal Totem Orchestra, Mathematial Mother is one I would suggest to him based on what I think of his tastes. Thought Charles might have appreciated Jannick Top and others bass-work. I got into many bands in Zeuhl before I got into Magma. Eskaton was one of the first I got into. I love this kind of stuff: I love Zeuhl, one of the most consistently good categories in PA to me, and so many monster bassists and drummers (often has great rhythm sections). Music to not just be experienced but felt. I like Magma a lot, and while K.A is not one of my particular favourites by Magma, that has pretty broad Prog appeal. Udu Wudu can too. For me the debut is awesome and was never bettered by Magma (bot I love music of all Magma albums (and like it or not, something like De Futura is a beast) . Edited by Logan - May 26 2025 at 07:52 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Online Points: 15446 |
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I'm with you on this one. I favor more wild, skronky and experimental but i love traditional and melodic as well. It's not about genre, it's about talent. Same with country. Not my favorite genre but i love classic oldies and the new alt-country and goth country sounds. As far as prog goes, love it all! |
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Online Points: 15446 |
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Um, the thread is about PROG GENRES! LOL Of course not every album is good |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21804 |
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^ Exactly. Unfortunately there are people who seem to be incapable of making that distinction. They'll give an unusually low rating to a release that is universally regarded as a masterpiece within a genre and then reveal in the review that the reason for their low rating is that they do not like the genre, or certain aspects of it.
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