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Gnik Nosmirc ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2024 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 330 |
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I've never really considered myself a nerd, apart from my interest in computer science. I'm quite sporty, and my taste in literature and film leans more toward the classic and art-house end of the spectrum than toward fantasy or sci-fi. While some branches of progressive rock could be labeled as nerdy, genres like RIO, Krautrock, post-rock, or the Canterbury scene evoke a completely different atmosphere—more psychedelic, experimental, and offbeat. To me, listening to that kind of music suggests an eclectic, countercultural, and intellectually curious mindset rather than the stereotypical sci-fi/fantasy nerd identity.
I don’t have anything against nerds, but I think the label is often used too broadly and simplistically. Even classic prog bands like Yes, King Crimson, or Rush—despite their fantasy and sci-fi themes—can’t be reduced to “nerd music.” Their work intersects with psychedelic traditions and even elements of classical philosophy. Ironically, most of the nerds I know don’t even listen to this kind of music. Anyway, that turned into a bit of a rant, but I’m honestly just tired of the cliché. Edited by Gnik Nosmirc - May 25 2025 at 17:10 |
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6849 |
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Depends on how you define a nerd. One definition is a person who is extremely enthusiastic and knowledgeable about a particular subject, especially one of specialist or niche interest.
Prog rock is certainly a niche interest. You could arguably call someone a "prog nerd," but that doesn't mean they fit some other characterization of nerd. Certainly, not every sci-fi/fantasy nerd is into prog rock. Using what I think is how you are characterizing a nerd, the answer to your question is some are and some aren't. |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19325 |
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Some are and some aren't. Like a bit like my brother in that I have nerd in me but neither of us are full on nerds.
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Gnik Nosmirc ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2024 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 330 |
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If we go by the definition mathman0806 mentioned, then I guess I'm a movie nerd, a book nerd, and definitely a music nerd—in the broadest sense. 😉
When it comes to sci-fi and fantasy, though, I couldn’t care less. Call me superficial if you like, but I’m only in it for the music—not the lyrics. |
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Enchant X ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 31 2014 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 933 |
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No! we are very cool
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38654 |
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Like progressive music, one might say that nerdism is a spectrum, in which case I might fall on that spectrum. I have been very enthusiastic about things including film, TV and music. I have been very big on so-called international art house cinema but I also love lots of sci-fi and fantasy (I think of the arthouse film aficionados as nerdier in ways). I do tend to favour music under the Prog umbrella (the prog spectrum) that might come from the more RIO and Avant side, love Krautrock electronic, acid folk, experimental music, post-rock, Canterbury Scene, kinds of jazz... I also like a lot of music outside Prog that might be considered hipsterish such as Indie. I'm an individual with individual tastes (much of which is shared by various people here) and don't consider myself to be a Proghead. It's more like I like a lot of music covered at PA, and not in PA, and a lot of music at PA is not my thing.
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 5946 |
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Honestly, I'm a massive prog nerd myself. Almost a textbook example.
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Gnik Nosmirc ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2024 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 330 |
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I mean we do love Steely Dan on PA, right? ![]() |
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Gnik Nosmirc ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2024 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 330 |
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Dude why are we so alike? |
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octopus-4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14889 |
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I think I'm a nerd, but it's mainly a reaction to those who don't understand why a song can last more than 3 minutes and have unusual signatures. I'm not only into prog, even if it's what I prefer. I like blues, some country-rock, celtic folk, pagan metal other than jazz and classical, but I'm everything but an expert on the last two. So I'm probably a music nerd, more than a prog-only nerd.
I'm a sci-fi lover, but I'm also into politics and because of that I've had some problems with the police when I was young. So I can love the lyrics of Jon Anderson, David Bowie and Roger Waters. (three different kinds) Can I be considered a proghead if I don't like Genesis? |
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20604 |
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TBH, when I first joined in 04, I was taken aback by dozens auto-qualifying themselves as nerds or geeks.
In the 70 & 80's, this was an insult hurled at losers (those that couldn't get laid - even by their own fists - if their lives depended on it), and had 50's looks like we regularly saw in those 80's teen comedies like Porky's & others. i suppose that the insults became a claim or advocacy (like queers and sluts) by those proud to be so in the 90's & 00's.
You'll be referred as Spaz from now on (see the movie Meatballs) . ![]() ![]() . Edited by Sean Trane - May 26 2025 at 02:21 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Floydoid ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 02 2007 Location: Planet Prog Status: Offline Points: 2149 |
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I am a bit of an obsessive researcher on topics that I'm passionate about - not sure if the makes me a prog nerd (or geek). [This has been going on for around 50 years now.]
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"Christ, where would rock & roll be without feedback?" - D. Gimour
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12950 |
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I'm an obsessive nerd when it comes to music of all kinds*. No one I know in real life go as far - or in depth in that regard. Not even the other music nerds amongst them. But I'm a social butterfly, good with small talk and make friends of both sexes easily. So not your typically awkward nerd like the ones from those 80's teen comedies:)
* & what I work with for a living, but that's not exactly the same thing, I think. |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15787 |
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Today, I consider myself mostly as an aficionado of progressive music, and thus as something else than just a progger, even Progressive Rock (rather strictly defined) surely still is the genre, I'm most fond of. Anyway, I've definitely been quite a music nerd in the largest part of my now long life. ![]() Edited by David_D - May 26 2025 at 07:52 |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Themistocles ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: May 05 2025 Location: Portland, Or Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Ive found that understanding what one likes and why is a very important form of self knowledge most never achieve. I wish the at laest mentioned it in schools. But yes I too enjoy skill, while challenging forms (in music, art, literature etc) is enriching. Im definitely a geek as Im a practitioner in all of those things. Is that a nerd? No idea but it brings me happiness. Im glad that there other people out there who have some similar values, though relieved that nobaby is in 100 alignment with my tastes. Are there alaignments in Prog like alaignments in D&D? Does asking that question make me a geek or nerd? ![]() |
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Sjå, my first album in 25+ years is out now: https://jeffjahn.bandcamp.com/album/sj I am told its quite original
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20604 |
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I never considered myself a nerd or a geek in whatever I forayed in (music or others), even when I spent many hours in the early times for this site. "PROG" (fùck I hate that word) was never the only style of music I liked and I'd even given up following whatever was still around in the later 80's... and if it wasn't for a Scandinavian mail-order catalogue that fell onto my desk, I might've missed the whole 90/00's slew. In some ways those same catalogues got me interested in those RIO bands that I only discovered in the mid-90's. |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Panda55226 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2025 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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I am definitely a nerd, i feel like i would not have ended up on this forum if i was not. I feel like i tend to intensely dive various areas of interest including my degree -biology (molecular, micro and marine) but i also enjoy geology/history/astronomy/philosphy/fine art/MUSIC/film.
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12950 |
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-I've met plenty of genuine Progheads of the ELP/Yes/Gabriel-era Genesis-worshipping ilk. Some of them only like the first King Crimson album (but not Moonchild), are mostly indiffernt to Jazz Rock Fusion, RIO etc (they might do an exception for the worst Return to Forever album, Romantic Warrior) and want to talk about time signatures, often do a lot of air drumming, are into sci-fi etc... And their idea of an interesting topic seem to be: but is Rush/Pink Floyd/Canterbury Scene etc... really Prog? Many of them are unable to snap out of it, and talk about other stuff. I got nothing agianst the prog nerd-type. I still like him (sorry, it's a him ca. 95% of the time), but we don't seem to share much common ground. It's usually easier for me to have a conversation with someone who's not into prog at all. |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20604 |
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welcome to Prog NerdArchives. ![]() We're a scary bunch (some are really worrysone, like Spaz), but fairly harmless. I also work in science (applied, not fundamental) and regularly I stop my colleagues from blowing up this planet ![]()
Gink/King is relatively close to my profile, I think (except that I'm a loafer when it comes to sport in the last three decades, though my previous job kept me relatively fit until some 20 years ago, when I switched. Saperlipopette describes what is sometimes called in circles a "symphonic weenie": basically someone who tends to fantasy that all symph and neo are "the classical music of the future" and pride themselves as open-minded, but in reality they wear blinkers/blinders and denigrate everything not in this style. I've had countless arguments with symph weenies when PA was born about people angry and insulting when JR/F (that jazzy sh*t) or anything outside their own little sphere of interest. Edited by Sean Trane - Yesterday at 03:06 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21804 |
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^ It's interesting because even when PA began Symphonic Prog was already 30 years old. Now it is about 50 years old and has not replace classical music yet
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