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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

"Progheads" are almost entirely nerds.   But in its day, liking Tull and Yes and Floyd and ELP was entirely acceptable and even cool.

Which is to say proggies are nerds now, but not so much then.


Same goes for jazz. Used to be cool, now it's seen as a bunch of snobby intellectuals or music nerds.

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"Progheads" are almost entirely nerds.   But in its day, liking Tull and Yes and Floyd and ELP was entirely acceptable and even cool.

Which is to say proggies are nerds now, but not so much then.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Anyone that starts a sentence ''dude'' is probably a nerd.

I kinda consider myself a nerd. I'm single and intend on remaining that way. I don't like socialising. I enjoyed being a chess player as I didn't have to speak to people and I like prog because it's something I can obsess over endlessly. I wear my prog nerd badge with total pride although I think I'm a lightweight as I'm too lazy to check out everything and tend to stick what I think is 'prog' (Yes being the centre of that universe).


I am single and intend on remaining that way. My family members are obsessed with pickelball, and to be nice, I play it a bit with them. My fixation is with prog and older classical music recordings, which my friends and family don't really get, but I guess that is ok.....Bruckner and Mahler and Triumvirat are my musical "triade", even though most don't "get it"...
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:


I've met plenty of genuine Progheads of the ELP/Yes/Gabriel-era Genesis-worshipping ilk. Some of them only like the first King Crimson album (but not Moonchild), are mostly indiffernt to Jazz Rock Fusion, RIO etc (they might do an exception for the worst Return to Forever album, Romantic Warrior) and want to talk about time signatures, often do a lot of air drumming, are into sci-fi etc... And their idea of an interesting topic seem to be: but is Rush/Pink Floyd/Canterbury Scene etc... really Prog? Many of them are unable to snap out of it, and talk about other stuff. I got nothing agianst the prog nerd-type. I still like him (sorry, it's a him ca. 95% of the time), but we don't seem to share much common ground. It's usually easier for me to have a conversation with someone who's not into prog at all.   


Man, they really get on my nerves. These guys act like they own progressive rock just because some albums have a fantasy vibe—when in reality, it's often rooted in British history and philosophy. In my opinion, prog bands are much more significant for their music than for any so-called "lore." Honestly, the themes could be about anything—it doesn’t matter to me. Area tackled the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Pink Floyd addressed left-wing politics. Caravan sang about quirky, whimsical worlds—not far off from gnomes in the forest. Who cares? Do you have to be a gnome fan to appreciate Caravan lol.

Not mentionning some borderline prog bands are very popular such as Queen, Radiohead or The Beatles. So "normies" too can be into prog. Anybody. Nobody owns prog.

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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I never considered myself a nerd or a geek in whatever I forayed in (music or others), even when I spent many hours in the early times for this site.

It's just a word, and I think there's been too much criticism of being "nerd", as the way I see it, there're both some pluses and minuses in it.

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Anyone that starts a sentence ''dude'' is probably a nerd.

I kinda consider myself a nerd. I'm single and intend on remaining that way. I don't like socialising. I enjoyed being a chess player as I didn't have to speak to people and I like prog because it's something I can obsess over endlessly. I wear my prog nerd badge with total pride although I think I'm a lightweight as I'm too lazy to check out everything and tend to stick what I think is 'prog' (Yes being the centre of that universe).
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Originally posted by Panda55226 Panda55226 wrote:

I am definitely a nerd, i feel like i would not have ended up on this forum if i was not. I feel like i tend to intensely dive various areas of interest including my degree -biology (molecular, micro and marine) but i also enjoy geology/history/astronomy/philosphy/fine art/MUSIC/film.


welcome to Prog NerdArchives.

We're a scary bunch (some are really worrysone, like Spaz), but fairly harmless.

I also work in science (applied, not fundamental) and regularly I stop my colleagues from blowing up this planet

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Gnik Nosmirc Gnik Nosmirc wrote:

I'm quite sporty, and my taste in literature and film leans more toward the classic and art-house end of the spectrum than toward fantasy or sci-fi. While some branches of progressive rock could be labeled as nerdy, genres like RIO, Krautrock, post-rock, or the Canterbury scene evoke a completely different atmosphere—more psychedelic, experimental, and offbeat. To me, listening to that kind of music suggests an eclectic, countercultural, and intellectually curious mindset rather than the stereotypical sci-fi/fantasy nerd identity.


This rings very true. I'm more at home with the countercultural, and intellectually curious. That is pretty much what my whole life has been about. However I do have that nerd like tunnel vision kind of focus/obsession, which has made me "an expert" at only a couple of things in life, while I suck at the rest.

-I've met plenty of genuine Progheads of the ELP/Yes/Gabriel-era Genesis-worshipping ilk. Some of them only like the first King Crimson album (but not Moonchild), are mostly indiffernt to Jazz Rock Fusion, RIO etc (they might do an exception for the worst Return to Forever album, Romantic Warrior) and want to talk about time signatures, often do a lot of air drumming, are into sci-fi etc... And their idea of an interesting topic seem to be: but is Rush/Pink Floyd/Canterbury Scene etc... really Prog? Many of them are unable to snap out of it, and talk about other stuff. I got nothing agianst the prog nerd-type. I still like him (sorry, it's a him ca. 95% of the time), but we don't seem to share much common ground. It's usually easier for me to have a conversation with someone who's not into prog at all.   


Gink/King is relatively close to my profile, I think (except that I'm a loafer when it comes to sport in the last three decades, though my previous job kept me relatively fit until some 20 years ago, when I switched.

Saperlipopette describes what is sometimes called in circles a "symphonic weenie": basically someone who tends to fantasy that all symph and neo are "the classical music of the future" and pride themselves as open-minded, but in reality they wear blinkers/blinders and denigrate everything not in this style.

I've had countless arguments with symph weenies when PA was born about people angry and insulting when JR/F (that jazzy sh*t) or anything outside their own little sphere of interest.

Edited by Sean Trane - May 27 2025 at 03:06
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Originally posted by Gnik Nosmirc Gnik Nosmirc wrote:

I'm quite sporty, and my taste in literature and film leans more toward the classic and art-house end of the spectrum than toward fantasy or sci-fi. While some branches of progressive rock could be labeled as nerdy, genres like RIO, Krautrock, post-rock, or the Canterbury scene evoke a completely different atmosphere—more psychedelic, experimental, and offbeat. To me, listening to that kind of music suggests an eclectic, countercultural, and intellectually curious mindset rather than the stereotypical sci-fi/fantasy nerd identity.
This rings very true. I'm more at home with the countercultural, and intellectually curious. That is pretty much what my whole life has been about. However I do have that nerd like tunnel vision kind of focus/obsession, which has made me "an expert" at only a couple of things in life, while I suck at the rest.

-I've met plenty of genuine Progheads of the ELP/Yes/Gabriel-era Genesis-worshipping ilk. Some of them only like the first King Crimson album (but not Moonchild), are mostly indiffernt to Jazz Rock Fusion, RIO etc (they might do an exception for the worst Return to Forever album, Romantic Warrior) and want to talk about time signatures, often do a lot of air drumming, are into sci-fi etc... And their idea of an interesting topic seem to be: but is Rush/Pink Floyd/Canterbury Scene etc... really Prog? Many of them are unable to snap out of it, and talk about other stuff. I got nothing agianst the prog nerd-type. I still like him (sorry, it's a him ca. 95% of the time), but we don't seem to share much common ground. It's usually easier for me to have a conversation with someone who's not into prog at all.   

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I am definitely a nerd, i feel like i would not have ended up on this forum if i was not. I feel like i tend to intensely dive various areas of interest including my degree -biology (molecular, micro and marine) but i also enjoy geology/history/astronomy/philosphy/fine art/MUSIC/film.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Today, I consider myself mostly as an aficionado of progressive music, and thus as something else than just a progger, even Progressive Rock (rather strictly defined) surely still is the genre, I'm most fond of. Anyway, I've definitely been quite a music nerd in the largest part of my now long life.



I never considered myself a nerd or a geek in whatever I forayed in (music or others), even when I spent many hours in the early times for this site.

"PROG" (fùck I hate that word) was never the only style of music I liked and I'd even given up following whatever was still around in the later 80's... and if it wasn't for a Scandinavian mail-order catalogue that fell onto my desk, I might've missed the whole 90/00's slew. In some ways those same catalogues got me interested in those RIO bands that I only discovered in the mid-90's.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Today, I consider myself mostly as an aficionado of progressive music, and thus as something else than just a progger, even Progressive Rock (rather strictly defined) surely still is the genre, I'm most fond of. Anyway, I've definitely been quite a music nerd in the largest part of my now long life.


Ive found that understanding what one likes and why is a very important form of self knowledge most never achieve. I wish the at laest mentioned it in schools. But yes I too enjoy skill, while challenging forms (in music, art, literature etc) is enriching. Im definitely a geek as Im a practitioner in all of those things. Is that a nerd? No idea but it brings me happiness. Im glad that there other people out there who have some similar values, though relieved that nobaby is in 100 alignment with my tastes.   Are there alaignments in Prog like alaignments in D&D? Does asking that question make me a geek or nerd?
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Today, I consider myself mostly as an aficionado of progressive music, and thus as something else than just a progger, even Progressive Rock (rather strictly defined) surely still is the genre, I'm most fond of. Anyway, I've definitely been quite a music nerd in the largest part of my now long life.







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I'm an obsessive nerd when it comes to music of all kinds*. No one I know in real life go as far - or in depth in that regard. Not even the other music nerds amongst them. But I'm a social butterfly, good with small talk and make friends of both sexes easily. So not your typically awkward nerd like the ones from those 80's teen comedies:)

* & what I work with for a living, but that's not exactly the same thing, I think.
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I am a bit of an obsessive researcher on topics that I'm passionate about - not sure if the makes me a prog nerd (or geek). [This has been going on for around 50 years now.]

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TBH, when I first joined in 04, I was taken aback by dozens auto-qualifying themselves as nerds or geeks.

In the 70 & 80's, this was an insult hurled at losers (those that couldn't get laid - even by their own fists - if their lives depended on it), and had 50's looks like we regularly saw in those 80's teen comedies like Porky's & others.


i suppose that the insults became a claim or advocacy (like queers and sluts) by those proud to be so in the 90's & 00's.


Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Honestly, I'm a massive prog nerd myself. Almost a textbook example.


You'll be referred as Spaz from now on (see the movie Meatballs) .

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I think I'm a nerd, but it's mainly a reaction to those who don't understand why a song can last more than 3 minutes and have unusual signatures. I'm not only into prog, even if it's what I prefer. I like blues, some country-rock, celtic folk, pagan metal other than jazz and classical, but I'm everything but an expert on the last two. So I'm probably a music nerd, more than a prog-only nerd.

I'm a sci-fi lover, but I'm also into politics and because of that I've had some problems with the police when I was young. So I can love the lyrics of Jon Anderson, David Bowie and Roger Waters. (three different kinds)

Can I be considered a proghead if I don't like Genesis?
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Like progressive music, one might say that nerdism is a spectrum, in which case I might fall on that spectrum. I have been very enthusiastic about things including film, TV and music. I have been very big on so-called international art house cinema but I also love lots of sci-fi and fantasy (I think of the arthouse film aficionados as nerdier in ways). I do tend to favour music under the Prog umbrella (the prog spectrum) that might come from the more RIO and Avant side, love Krautrock electronic, acid folk, experimental music, post-rock, Canterbury Scene, kinds of jazz... I also like a lot of music outside Prog that might be considered hipsterish such as Indie. I'm an individual with individual tastes (much of which is shared by various people here) and don't consider myself to be a Proghead. It's more like I like a lot of music covered at PA, and not in PA, and a lot of music at PA is not my thing.


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Originally posted by Enchant X Enchant X wrote:

No! we are very cool


I mean we do love Steely Dan on PA, right?
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Honestly, I'm a massive prog nerd myself. Almost a textbook example.

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