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    Posted: June 11 2025 at 00:22
I thought the difference between the debut LP of Captain Beyond and their second LP, "Sufficiently Breathless" was worth mentioning!

The debut LP was a quite remarkable blast of proto-prog-metal, while the second LP had a very heavy Latin sound, somewhat similar to Santana's sound of the era. I believe this came about because drummer Bobby Caldwell did not participate in the second LP, and so they had to scramble and improvise.

I love both of these albums, what an amazing band! RIP Rhino and Lee Dorman!
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Hi,

I was just thinking that with time, and different instruments, the sound would naturally change ... it is not the same this or that ... except the over use of guitars, of course, and bad drummers that can only count and hit the snare drum until your head hurts!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2025 at 02:48
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Th Yes Album to Fragile - CTTE to Tales and Tales to Relayer - Yes in its glory days changed sound as they brought in a new great player
Maybe from Tales to Relayer. Otherwise I only hear a very natural and organic change and sometimes growth from one album to the next.
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King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard has got quite a few:
Paper Mâché Dream Balloon (2015) Nonagon Infinity (2016)
Murder of the Universe (2017) Sketches of Brunswick East (2017)
Fishing for Fishies (2019) Infest the Rats' Nest (2019)
Made in Timeland (2022) Omnium Gatherum (2022)
PetroDragonic Apocalypse* (2023) The Silver Cord (2023)
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Kraftwerk: Autobahn (1974) Radio-Aktivität (1975)
Peter Hammill: Nadir's Big Chance (1975) Over (1977)
Tortoise: St. (1994) Millions Now Living Will Never Die (1996)
Motorpsycho: Heavy Metal Fruit (2010) The Death Defying Unicorn (2012)

*; or, Dawn of Eternal Night: An Annihilation of Planet Earth and the Beginning of Merciless Damnation

**could have gone with In Camera (1974) Nadir)
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Wind and Wuthering to ATTWT.


Again, not a really big change in sound. Quality? Perhaps. But a pretty gradual progression in style there. Genesis have a pretty consistent gradient in their musical history. Their first album to Trespass is the biggest change, and even then it's not THAT drastic. Simply not a band that belongs in this conversation.
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Originally posted by Hector Enrique Hector Enrique wrote:


Marillion: Fish era >>> Hogarth era


I can't judge the band in two different periods, like that.
There was n of much of a change between Clutching at Straws and Seasons End.

There were changes between albums in the Hogarth era, for instance from Brave to Afraid of Sunlight. Or marillion.com to Anoraknophobia.

Edited by Cristi - June 08 2025 at 03:45
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Wind and Wuthering to ATTWT.

Also Drama to 90125.
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Roine Stolt - The Lonely Heartbeat (1989) -> The Flower King (1994)
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Oh yeah, Porcupine Tree from the Sky Moves Sideways to Signify than to Stupid Dream. 3 albums total direction changes.
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Just came across this thread. I’d like to suggest Captain Beyond self tightled to Sufficiently Breathless. Complete 180 on sound and style.
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Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

In fact, lots of classic prog acts incorporate elements of pop (in the context of the era) all the time.

yep that's called good songwriting. Current day's prog could learn a thing or two from that, instead of constructing meaningless riff puzzles with endless speed-of-sound soloing

That's a pretty broad brush-stroke and inaccurate take. Sure, there's plenty of music out there in general that does that, but there's also plenty of bands making actual "progressive" music that is quite dense, yet uses textures more prominently than melody. Nothin wrong with that. Ya just might not like it as much. On the flip side, retro prog/many neo prog bands have been emphasizing melody and antiquated (in the rock/pop realm) compositional techniques for decades and aren't adventurous at all. Not every band needs to be innovating a new sound every album, but neither does every band need to retread the same well-trodden paths.
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Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn >> Saucerful of Secrets

IMO it's almost two different bands. Just to backtrack my entry point into the Floyd was Meddle - not long afterwards I first heard Piper and couldn't believe how different they sounded with Syd in the band.

Edited by Floydoid - May 05 2025 at 14:09
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Queen : Jazz > The Game >>> Hot Space
E, L & P : Brian Salad Surgery >> Works Vol 1/2 >>>>>>> Love Beach
Steve Hackett : Defector >>> Cured
Rush: I Phase > II Phase > III Phase
Deep Purple : Deep Purple album >>> In Rock
Opeth : Deliverance > Damnation
Marillion: Fish era >>> Hogarth era
Genesis : From Genesis to Revelations >>>> Trespass
Genesis : Wind & Wuthering >>> ...And Then There Were Three...
Yes : Time and a Word >>> The Yes Album
Yes : Drama >>> 90125
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Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

From Moving Pictures to Signals. A huge shift in sound with the synths dominating on Signals. And this was personal for me. Signals was so different, I just couldn't get into it back then, but taking a break from it and then returning for round two at least allowed me to appreciate it for what it is. I started to like the songs. And it grew from there.


Roll the Bones to Counterparts was also a significant shift … to less synths and a bit of grunge.

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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

In fact, lots of classic prog acts incorporate elements of pop (in the context of the era) all the time.

yep that's called good songwriting. Current day's prog could learn a thing or two from that, instead of constructing meaningless riff puzzles with endless speed-of-sound soloing
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Awesoreno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2025 at 23:48
Yeah, I don't think of that as a big change. Sort of a myth amongst the progheads who just think of ATTWT as a step down in quality from W&W. In terms of sound, they aren't that different. The biggest change (as in, non-gradual) between Genesis albums in terms of overall sound has to be their first album to Trespass. The rest of their changes have been very gradual over time. Outside of Follow You Follow Me, what song on ATTWT sounds like pop to the point where the prog/art rock roots are undetectable? And what song on W&W doesn't include any elements of pop whatsoever? The latter album even has Your Own Special Way and Afterglow that can qualify as "pop" too. In fact, lots of classic prog acts incorporate elements of pop (in the context of the era) all the time.
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Originally posted by FloydCrafty FloydCrafty wrote:

I think Genesis, Wind and Wuthering to ...And Then There Were Three...
A huge transition from their progressive rock roots to their modern pop songs.


Interesting perspective. Genesis has roots in pop. From Genesis to Revelation is a pop album, albeit of a much more baroque pop than modern pop persuasion. Pop was a part of Genesis throughout, and the pop qualities of Wind and Wuthering has not struck me as that different from the pop qualities of ...And Then There Were Three. And both have Prog qualities. It has not struck me as a really huge or really unexpected shift of style.
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I think Genesis, Wind and Wuthering to ...And Then There Were Three...
A huge transition from their progressive rock roots to their modern pop songs.



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I was going to mention the Italian band Dedalus jump from the fusion of their selftitled debut to the mad free jazz of the subsequent one..but I see it has already been mentioned.
Keeping with the Italians though, I find the jump from Claudio Rocchi’s early folky roots to first ambient and then all out corrosive progressive electronic with Suoni di Frontiera to be quite earthshattering. Is it even the same guy???

Another Italian that changed his style quite significantly from one album to the next is Franco Battiato. Sure the man was experimenting with minimalism on both Sulle Corde Di Aries and Clíc, but the subsequent M. Elle Le Gladiator was still like the proverbial punch to the gut. Going from experimental almost Krautrocking prog to no guitars, no bass and no drums..but church organ and synths was quite the artistic u-turn.
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From Jade Warrior ....Last Autumn's Dream to Floating World.
The early albums contained Rock songs with the influence of Asia music. The piece "Dark River" is a good example of this.

When Jon Field and Tony Duhig signed with Island they extended more on the influence of Asia music and remained an instrumental band releasing the following:

Floating World
Waves
Kites
Way Of The Sun
Horizon
At Peace
Breathing The Storm
Distant Echoes
....until reforming with singer Glyn Harvard and returning to their early style ..but with a more modern sound..


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