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diddy 
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Posted: April 14 2004 at 11:39 |
Hi... I realised that we really never talked about 'The Flower Kings'...but I hope that will change. I really love this Band and especiall
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Alexander
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Posted: April 14 2004 at 16:14 |
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This album is not all that bad. I dig the epic tracks & the instrumental jams.
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On A Dilemmia Between What I Need & What I Just Want
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: April 14 2004 at 16:42 |
I love the instrumentals too. Christianopel builds slowly and has some great moments. TFK is guilty of too much filler, songs which don't really say anything. I really like their epics (10 or minute long tunes) because they seem to excel at excess. ![]()
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Posted: April 15 2004 at 02:58 |
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I love the bombastic parts of this album Diddy.My problem with Flower Kings is the opposite one ie they don't 'go for it' enough.However this has a good balance between the bombast and the 'jazzier' side of their music and for me is better than&n
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The Prognaut
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Posted: April 26 2004 at 14:46 |
Their best album so far  
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 08:27 |
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Yes a great album. I like the "filler" personally as it gets a bit jazzy and experimenal then.
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 08:45 |
I'll have to try them some time soon... But Shadow Gallery comes 1st! (Tyranny is awsome!)
Is this really the best of their work?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 08:49 |
 Ed_The_Dead wrote:
I'll have to try them some time soon... But Shadow Gallery comes 1st! (Tyranny is awsome!)
Is this really the best of their work?
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If you think that Tyranny is awesome, you should RUN to your store and get Room V LIMITED EDITION ... I created a thread about it.
EDIT: Regarding Unfold the Future: Love it, great album. I prefer Space Revolver, but I really like the jazzy approach of UtF. Too bad that Adam & Eve is so bad compared to UtF.
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 09:00 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Ed_The_Dead wrote:
I'll have to try them some time soon... But Shadow Gallery comes 1st! (Tyranny is awsome!)
Is this really the best of their work?
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If you think that Tyranny is awesome, you should RUN to your store and get Room V LIMITED EDITION ... I created a thread about it.
EDIT: Regarding Unfold the Future: Love it, great album. I prefer Space Revolver, but I really like the jazzy approach of UtF. Too bad that Adam & Eve is so bad compared to UtF.
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The problem is I can't get any Shadow Gallery here in Poland... I'll get it via Amazon, as i did with O.S.I. and Ayreon...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 09:02 |
Ed_The_Dead wrote:
The problem is I can't get any Shadow Gallery here in Poland... I'll get it via Amazon, as i did with O.S.I. and Ayreon...
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But you are fortunate that you live in Europe ... the limited edition was released in Europe only. See my thread about the album to see what's special about the limited edition ...
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 09:03 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Ed_The_Dead wrote:
I'll have to try them some time soon... But Shadow Gallery comes 1st! (Tyranny is awsome!)
Is this really the best of their work?
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If you think that Tyranny is awesome, you should RUN to your store and get Room V LIMITED EDITION ... I created a thread about it.
EDIT: Regarding Unfold the Future: Love it, great album. I prefer Space Revolver, but I really like the jazzy approach of UtF. Too bad that Adam & Eve is so bad compared to UtF.
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I would say Space Revolver too!
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 09:09 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Ed_The_Dead wrote:
The problem is I can't get any Shadow Gallery here in Poland... I'll get it via Amazon, as i did with O.S.I. and Ayreon...
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But you are fortunate that you live in Europe ... the limited edition was released in Europe only. See my thread about the album to see what's special about the limited edition ...
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I've seen it allready (when You first posted it) And Thats Why I tried Tyranny first, cuz i Heard theres some kind of link between them... (Tyranny and Room V)
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Man Overboard
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 09:53 |
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The Hemulen
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 10:01 |
I adore this album. Not only was it my first ever foray into post-70's
prog, but it also contains some of symphonic prog's finest moments (The
epics that bookend the album and Silent Inferno especially). The filler
is, as has been said elsewhere, a lot better than most of TFK filler as
it's of a jazzier vein. I really hope they return to the jazziness of
this album on their next release as Adam and Eve was a big
disappointment. There are also a hell of a lot of decent songs which
are neither epics nor filler, namely:
- Black and White
- Genie in a Bottle
- Fast Lane
And, of course:
- Man Overboard
 Great album, great band!
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 10:17 |
I think I've got all of the Flower Kings' albums but taking a step back, so to speak, I think Adam & Eve is their weakest.
I'm not crazy about Unfold the Future but I love the epics like some of you !
My favourite is Space Revolver. Lots of fans think The Rainmaker was weak but I like it a lot.
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 10:20 |
silvertree wrote:
I think I've got all of the Flower Kings' albums but taking a step back, so to speak, I think Adam & Eve is their weakest.
I'm not crazy about Unfold the Future but I love the epics like some of you !
My favourite is Space Revolver. Lots of fans think The Rainmaker was weak but I like it a lot.
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City Of Angels was the first Flower Kings track that I heard (downloaded). That track was so awesome, I couldn't believe it. The vocal arrangements, the chord progressions, ...
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Man Overboard
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 10:25 |
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Funny story... when writing for Transatlantic's debut album,
Roine Stolt submitted a demo called My Cruel World. The first
half is mostly similar to the final My New World track, but the second
half is what would eventually become Genie In A Bottle...
lyrically, Roine's demo was very dark... here's my best
transcription of it:
The place she called home was high on a hill,
way up in a big house under the trees
Days in the sun she's seen by the river,
reading a book, feeding her dreams
Longing for ways to open her mind up
reveal all the mysteries, travel within
Now she's a loner, now she's a stoner, no one can touch her ...
He was the boy, the pride of his mother,
stainless and shining, all heaven sent
But then the country calls for a soldier
and he went off to a foreign land
When he returned so much had changed
he lost his innocence, nothing's the same
My cruel world's spinning around
Keep it dark, we're goin' down
My cruel world at the end of the day
Person chained to a private hell
She had a need for total expression
Cry out for freedom, born to be wild
He took some pride in serving his country
Went off to war no more than a child
Dreamer's Dream would hail him a hero
World turned against him, victim as well
My cruel world's spinning around
Keep it dark, we're goin' down
My cruel world at the end of the day
Person chained to a private hell
Now he's a loner, now he's a stoner, no one can touch him ...
Morning found them asleep in the park
Gripped in the minefields of the darkest
Water, crystalline, cover the skin
The stoner the loner the child within
Bent and broken, they'll soon learn to crawl
Now they can tell when the snow will fall
But Christmas Day in the Underworld
There's still no room for all the unheard
Fuel injected now standing tall
Ten white horses at the door
Take him down for another ride
Put me asleep on the other side
Frozen images driftin away
Winter heart set his dreams to play
Maybe the river will carry you home
Home to the place where you're no more alone
"All I need is another dream
All I need is some self esteem
Can you take me, now can you take me this time?"
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Man Overboard
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 10:28 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
silvertree wrote:
I think I've got all of the Flower Kings' albums but taking a step back, so to speak, I think Adam & Eve is their weakest.
I'm not crazy about Unfold the Future but I love the epics like some of you !
My favourite is Space Revolver. Lots of fans think The Rainmaker was weak but I like it a lot.
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City Of Angels was the first Flower Kings track that I heard
(downloaded). That track was so awesome, I couldn't believe it. The
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City Of Angels is a beautiful song from a beautiful album! I thought I was the only Flowerhead who enjoyed Rainmaker as much as I do... 
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 11:26 |
Man Overboard wrote:
What's this? A post about my favorite album, by my favorite band?
Unfold The Future is such a subtly brilliant album. Between the three epics, the many short, beautifully crafted songs, the improvised jam sessions teeming with energy and creativity, and the song off-shoots that reference other songs while maintaining an identity of their own, it all fits together like one "big puzzle".
I find it strange that people label the parts they don't enjoy "filler", but that definition varies from person to person. I don't see a single moment of filler... everything is as it should be, and they *did* have several minutes left over on the discs, even after taking the BEAUTIFUL bonus track on the special edition into account. So it's not like they were just trying to fill them up. 
Yeah... this might be my favorite album of all time... 
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I resurrected this thread, especially for you Manoverbored!
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Man Overboard
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 11:27 |
And I love you for it, Snowblow Dog.
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