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Topic: Ten of your favourite fantasy films Posted: January 19 2017 at 20:13 |
Similar to the ten sci-fi films topic, and when I say fantasy, it can cross into other genres, and you may question some of my choices.
The Bothersome Man Brazil The City of Lost Children The Holy Mountain Donnie Darko The Dark Crystal Pan's Labyrinth Excalibur Holy Motors Delicatessan (more post-apocalyptic black comedy, but....)
Would have liked to include some Studio Ghibli, especially Princess Mononoke, but will give it a nod here. Didn't give my list much thought, to be honest. Also thought about including Videodrome, but not sure it fits enough. Mulholland Drive also crossed my mind. Big nod to Being John Malcovitch, which I could have included.
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Posted: January 19 2017 at 20:20 |
See, many of yours were in my sci-fi list. So yeah...crossover.
I'll just say any Guillermo del Toro, Jeunet and Caro, Gilliam.
Does Grand Budapest Hotel work here?
Oh, and City of lost children is my all-time favorite flick any genre.
Edited by Tapfret - January 19 2017 at 20:22
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Posted: January 19 2017 at 20:28 |
And I just noticed the Bothersome Man at the top. That's some serious dystopian stuff. Did you interpret it as a metaphor for city life in general (an interpretation I have seen from several Oslo residents) or an actual manifestation of purgatory as punishment for the act of suicide?
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Posted: January 19 2017 at 20:30 |
Logan wrote:
Similar to the ten sci-fi films topic, and when I say fantasy, it can cross into other genres, and you may question some of my choices.
Brazil The Holy Mountain Donnie Darko The Dark Crystal Pan's Labyrinth
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Posted: January 19 2017 at 20:40 |
I would call "The Holy Mountain" surrealistic but not fantasy. One of my favourite movies though. And "Brazil" is SF.
I don't know what to call "Pan's Labyrinth". There are certainly elements of fantasy in it, but as a whole I think it does not quite fit that description. Great movie though.
I am generally not a big fan of the genre, though there are exceptions, and don't think I can come up with 10.
1) The Princess Bride 2) Time Bandits 3) The Wizard of Oz 4) Labyrinth
Edited by BaldFriede - January 19 2017 at 20:42
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Posted: January 19 2017 at 20:57 |
Tapfret wrote:
And I just noticed the Bothersome Man at the top. That's some serious dystopian stuff. Did you interpret it as a metaphor for city life in general (an interpretation I have seen from several Oslo residents) or an actual manifestation of purgatory as punishment for the act of suicide? | Nice to finally find someone who knows that film. It's allegorical, and I see it as metaphorical for sterile and superficial city life and also as a place that he found himself as a result of his death. I'm not sure that it's punishment that he found himself there, though when he isn't content with that life he is banished somewhere worse, which certainly does seem like punishment. Some people seem genuinely content there. Mostly I see it as metaphor. I doubt he'd be happy with the chocolate box version of life either eventually, which seems even faker than the superficial Ikea world.
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Posted: January 19 2017 at 21:18 |
BaldFriede wrote:
I would call "The Holy Mountain" surrealistic but not fantasy. One of my favourite movies though. And "Brazil" is SF.
I don't know what to call "Pan's Labyrinth". There are certainly elements of fantasy in it, but as a whole I think it does not quite fit that description. Great movie though.
I am generally not a big fan of the genre, though there are exceptions, and don't think I can come up with 10.
1) The Princess Bride 2) Time Bandits 3) The Wizard of Oz 4) Labyrinth
| ^^ My choice go beyond fantasy genre into fantasy elements (all fiction is fantasy in a sense). You're right about Brazil, I call it dystopian speculative fiction. I sort of cheated by including it for Sam's fantasy (his dream), which doesn't make it fantasy genre, but does give it sort of fantasy element.. Similarly Pan's Labyrinth I don't actually consider to be fantasy genre since the fantasy elements are in her imagination. I'd be comfortable calling Holy Mountain a surreal fantasy film. I'm not that hung up on labels. Fantasy genre, like sci-fi and much horror tends to deal with the fantastic, but in fantasy there is a magical or supernatural element to it (or same diff), whereas in science fiction it should be grounded in actual science. Or to put it another way, there is real and knowable universe in sci-fi. Science is about understanding the real world, fantasy is about creating imaginary worlds and peoples (flights of fancy), and the science fiction genre is concerned with imagining, or postulating, generally future or futuristic scientific advances/technology, as well as hypothesizing potential social and environmental changes etc. Or it can be just about having spaceships, aliens, and ray-guns.... The scientific method utilizes observation and testing to better know the universe.... Experimentation in fiction and scientific experimentation differ. Science and fiction and science and fantasy by definition are at odds with each-other. Science is about trying to know the true universe, whereas fiction/fantasy is involved with making stuff up. Fantasy, as genre, is often based on myths (superstitions etc,). There's often an element of mysticism, and irrationalism. Science tries to demystify what is a rational universe. Fantasy is magical, science is down to earth, and science fiction, while often scientifically informed, still, generally, has its head in the clouds, but usually there is a rational explanation for what happens. An awful lot of sci-fi might well be termed Science Fantasy... For instance, in so called fantasy genre works you have monsters, and so called sci-fi genre works many of the aliens are also monsters. Also, as the the technology may be about as effable as magic wands or rings, it may as well be of supernatural origins. Like fiction writer and scientist Clarke stated, "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
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Posted: January 20 2017 at 08:30 |
List 1 in no order...
Big Fish Beetlejuice Always City Of Angels The 13th Warrior The Green Mile The Scorpion King The Illusionist Slipstream Sucker Punch
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Posted: January 20 2017 at 08:45 |
Logan wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
I would call "The Holy Mountain" surrealistic but not fantasy. One of my favourite movies though. And "Brazil" is SF.
I don't know what to call "Pan's Labyrinth". There are certainly elements of fantasy in it, but as a whole I think it does not quite fit that description. Great movie though.
I am generally not a big fan of the genre, though there are exceptions, and don't think I can come up with 10.
1) The Princess Bride 2) Time Bandits 3) The Wizard of Oz 4) Labyrinth
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^^ My choice go beyond fantasy genre into fantasy elements (all fiction is fantasy in a sense).
You're right about Brazil, I call it dystopian speculative fiction. I sort of cheated by including it for Sam's fantasy (his dream), which doesn't make it fantasy genre, but does give it sort of fantasy element.. Similarly Pan's Labyrinth I don't actually consider to be fantasy genre since the fantasy elements are in her imagination. I'd be comfortable calling Holy Mountain a surreal fantasy film. I'm not that hung up on labels.
Fantasy genre, like sci-fi and much horror tends to deal with the fantastic, but in fantasy there is a magical or supernatural element to it (or same diff), whereas in science fiction it should be grounded in actual science. Or to put it another way, there is real and knowable universe in sci-fi.
Science is about understanding the real world, fantasy is about creating imaginary worlds and peoples (flights of fancy), and the science fiction genre is concerned with imagining, or postulating, generally future or futuristic scientific advances/technology, as well as hypothesizing potential social and environmental changes etc. Or it can be just about having spaceships, aliens, and ray-guns.... The scientific method utilizes observation and testing to better know the universe.... Experimentation in fiction and scientific experimentation differ. Science and fiction and science and fantasy by definition are at odds with each-other. Science is about trying to know the true universe, whereas fiction/fantasy is involved with making stuff up.
Fantasy, as genre, is often based on myths (superstitions etc,). There's often an element of mysticism, and irrationalism. Science tries to demystify what is a rational universe. Fantasy is magical, science is down to earth, and science fiction, while often scientifically informed, still, generally, has its head in the clouds, but usually there is a rational explanation for what happens. An awful lot of sci-fi might well be termed Science Fantasy... For instance, in so called fantasy genre works you have monsters, and so called sci-fi genre works many of the aliens are also monsters. Also, as the the technology may be about as effable as magic wands or rings, it may as well be of supernatural origins. Like fiction writer and scientist Clarke stated, "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." |
"Fantasy" is in my opinion all about elves and dwarves and magic and the likes, in contrast to fantastic movies which have an element of the fantastic, like premonition, telepathy or the appearance of ghosts.
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Posted: January 20 2017 at 09:45 |
The Princess Bride The Wizard of Oz Labyrinth Clash of the Titans (1981) Ghostbusters The Neverending Story Beetlejuice Monty Python and the Holy Grail Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory Brazil
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Posted: January 20 2017 at 11:43 |
The Dark Crystal La Cite des Enfants Perdus Brazil Der Himmel über Berlin aka Wings of Desire Time Bandits The Navigator (A Medieval Odyssey) Coraline Stardust Tim Burton's mess of Lewis Caroll's Alice in Wonderland
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