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Cheesecakemouse
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Topic: Lamb Lies Down Influenced by Krautrock? Posted: May 04 2006 at 19:03 |
Is it just me or is some elements of the Lamb lies Down have elements of Krautrock in it, It could be more Stockhausen and the Beatles White Album. But take for example The Waiting Room, it sounds more like something Can or Neu! would produce. In the song Back to NYC and even Anyway to a degree I could imagine Damo Suzucki singing those tracks, perhaps all these bands were influenced by John Lennon and I'm merely seeing his influence on these groups/ albums. Perhaps tracks such as the Waiting room, part 1 of Colony of Slippermen and Ravine are more Avant garde influenced such as King Crimson. Anyway I would like to hear peoples views on this whether they share the same opinion or not. But anyway if you are familiar with Neu! IMHO some of their songs have a similar vibe to the Lamb.
Edited by Cheesecakemouse - May 04 2006 at 19:35
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DrGoon
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 19:55 |
Of course, nothing exists in isolation, and all the British prog bands were well aware of what was happening on the continent. They might not have been direct influences, but there's always cross-fertilisation of musical styles, especially with musicans who are open to fresh ideas. It wasn't just a one-way thing.
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: May 04 2006 at 20:16 |
DrGoon wrote:
Of course, nothing exists in isolation, and all the British prog bands were well aware of what was happening on the continent. They might not have been direct influences, but there's always cross-fertilisation of musical styles, especially with musicans who are open to fresh ideas. It wasn't just a one-way thing.
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Yeah, many people don't seem to appreciat the cross fertilisation aspect and can gat a bit too exclusively shut into one subgenre, limiting their pallete or else denying outside/other influences.
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Ricochet
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Posted: May 05 2006 at 00:39 |
nope.no Klautrock in The Lamb...
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Syzygy
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Posted: May 06 2006 at 06:32 |
I can't say I've ever noticed any discernible Krautrock influence on The Lamb, but Brian Eno was involved in the production (apparently he was responsible for the treatments to Gabriel's voice on Grand Parade and Slippermen) and he was definitely into Krautrock, so perhaps he got them listening to Can, Neu! and Faust.
I have always seen The Lamb as prog's equivalent of the Beatles White Album, and Genesis were getting more experimental in terms of production when they made it.
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
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jojim
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Posted: May 06 2006 at 06:42 |
The intermezzo part of the lamb - like The waiting room - were played in absence of Peter Gabriel in total darkness. He had to prepare his next costume or gadget to bring onto stage next minute. So this parts of music are only to abrigde this time of change behind the scene.
I saw it 1974 live.
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