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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21625 |
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Anyone want to have a look at this guy?
13,500 ratings, 99% of them 5 star! Not a single forum post or review.
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38787 |
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This guy is misusing or abusing the system, and in such cases people rarely know all those albums. That said, I have only deleted his Soft Machine "Hidden Details" rating thus far as I can find no info that he could have listened to a pre-released album (or one given to reviewers) legitimately or not (in both those cases, I would get rid of it). Don't know if I, or another more experienced in dealing with such matters admin, will remove his other ratings, but this is one to watch and consider.
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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tempest_77 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 06 2018 Location: Maryland Status: Offline Points: 1676 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38787 |
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Thanks, will look into it.
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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tempest_77 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 06 2018 Location: Maryland Status: Offline Points: 1676 |
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Someone might wanna check this guy out:
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=55997&listreviews=chrono&showall=true#reviews It seems like he used to have a variety of ratings but lately he's done whole discographies with five stars, or mostly fives and some ones. It sort of shifted gradually and then got to the point where he has stuff like what looks like Peter Gabriel's entire discography as all five stars. Maybe its not abuse and just someone who doesn't really know how they're supposed to use the rating system, but it seems a little weird to me. I found it because he's the only person who has currently rated Soft Machine's 2018 album (which he gave five stars), and I decided to check it out since, of course, that album isn't even out yet.
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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Too bad for Ragni and his reputation on PA: he had positive reviews from Windhawk, Rivertree or Tzsimay - who I won't suspect from being part of a conspiracy of cheaters!
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21625 |
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Agreed, there's a couple of people I like guesting on this one so I gave it a listen but its pretty nondescript.
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2011 Location: Melb, Australia Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
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If it was him...well, I've never listened to his music, but despite some good reviewers on there singing his praises, this sort of sh*t just makes me want to dismiss him altogether, especially if it's throwing a whole bunch of other artists under the bus to get more attention. ![]() |
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21625 |
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I was assuming it was the same thing. He's dropped into the 170's since the clean up.
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2011 Location: Melb, Australia Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
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So is it Marco Ragni himself creating all these aliases, or does he have a `number one fan' that's trying to impress him?
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3RDegree ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 31 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 129 |
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I had a little "fun" with him seen below to which he did not comment...BTW, he was commenting on OUR album in a 3rd person's thread strangely.
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www.3RDegreeONLINE.com www.facebook.com/3RDegree "Defiling Perfectly Good Songs With Prog Since 1990"
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stronzo7 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 20 2018 Location: Saltsburg Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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1.It's the same person, not a bunch of friends. 2.He gives one star ratings to many bands which are in the top 20 albums of the year (the same bands more or less with every profile), in order for Marco Ragni to be no1 and then post a screenshot in his facebook page. And that has unfortunately already happened.
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 15453 |
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Is it against the rules to have a bunch of friends join and vote up your albums? Sounds like a legit and useful stategy to me. Have there been rules written out about this stuff? I'd love to read the details if so.
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stronzo7 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 20 2018 Location: Saltsburg Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=64655
Scarlet Pimpernell's today's profile... The usual stuff... Marco Ragni 12 points. Wins the Eurovision song contest.
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TSoP2018 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2018 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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strange that most of Marco Ragni's 5 stars reviews are coming from members that joined on the same day of their last visit, it can be a coincidence of course, but...
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=64534 Member since: 5/28/2018 • Forum posts: 0 • Last visit: 5/28/2018 5:39:31
AM EST http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=59004 Member since: 9/14/2016 • Forum posts: 0 • Last visit: 9/14/2016 10:59:21
PM EST http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=64641 Member since: 6/22/2018 • Forum posts: 0 • Last visit: 6/22/2018 2:33:57 PM
EST http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=64611 Member since: 6/15/2018 • Forum posts: 0 • Last visit: 6/15/2018 10:37:29
PM EST http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=64636 Member since: 6/21/2018 • Forum posts: 0 • Last visit: 6/21/2018 8:01:48
AM EST http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=54430 Member since: 1/20/2015 • Forum posts: 0 • Last visit: 1/20/2015 5:00:11
AM EST http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=54435 Member since: 1/20/2015 • Forum posts: 0 • Last visit: 1/20/2015 8:57:27
AM EST http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=54421 Member since: 1/19/2015 • Forum posts: 0 • Last visit: 1/19/2015 4:01:40
AM EST http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=56070 Member since: 7/14/2015 • Forum posts: 0 • Last visit: 7/14/2015 11:57:39
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TSoP2018 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2018 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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at least a warning and a clean up, although most of his 5 stars are submitted by "members" that have joined ProgArchives during June 2018... that says it all.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38787 |
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And that's gone too. I'm certainly not saying that I would as I do have a level of self-control, but I feel a little tempted to delete Ragni altogether from the database.
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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stronzo7 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 20 2018 Location: Saltsburg Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=64648
There he goes again...brand new!Of course 5 stars to Marco Ragni and one star ratings to several bands.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38787 |
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Not an easy case to deal with, I'm afraid to say, as he's something of a Scarlet Pimpernel ("We seek him here, we seek him there, [they] seek him everywhere. Is he in heaven? Is he in hell? That damned, elusive Pimpernel." But all ratings gone and took some other steps, and may get more drastic/ aggressive in time, but will have to stay vigilant as bad pennies sometimes keep popping up despite one's most valiant efforts.
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 15453 |
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^ dude is sooooooo busted. off with his account!
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