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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 19:12

Absolution is a boring album of almost farcicle music. Not 5 stars.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 18:51
Originally posted by Biggles Biggles wrote:

We can't allow too loosely defined boundaries, especially in the case of "prog-related." If you have serious intentions of having a "prog-related" category, then why not add The Beatles? Led Zeppelin? The Doors? Steely Dan? Jimi Hendrix? Jeff Beck? Funkadelic? The list goes on, and adding bands like Queen but not adding bands like the aforementioned just creates double standards. Stick to what the website is about to begin with. "Clever" does not mean "progressive," or even "prog-related." Muse definitely is prog-related, but I'm talking about other bands that get added just because they're slightly intelligent.



Your list of band is not far from the truth ... some of those bands are scheduled for addition. But there is a heavy discussion going on here in the public forum as well as among us collabs (I don't think that I betray any secret here) ... and I support those additions with the exception of Funkadelic - I don't know them, and The Doors - not prog related enough IMO.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 18:45

Can we add King Hery VIII? He wrote Greesleeves. It's in 3/4 time.

Isn't that prog enough?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Really, I don't care.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 18:43

We can't allow too loosely defined boundaries, especially in the case of "prog-related." If you have serious intentions of having a "prog-related" category, then why not add The Beatles? Led Zeppelin? The Doors? Steely Dan? Jimi Hendrix? Jeff Beck? Funkadelic? The list goes on, and adding bands like Queen but not adding bands like the aforementioned just creates double standards. Stick to what the website is about to begin with. "Clever" does not mean "progressive," or even "prog-related." Muse definitely is prog-related, but I'm talking about other bands that get added just because they're slightly intelligent.

The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 18:31
Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

^^^Not at all - read the ratings:

Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
Good, but non-essential
Collectors/fans only
Poor. Only for completionists

Three can play at that game

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 18:24
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

^^^Not at all - read the ratings:

Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
Good, but non-essential
Collectors/fans only
Poor. Only for completionists

Three can play at that game

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 18:03

can we please stick to PROG???

What I notice is that lately a lot of music that is so borderline (yes, even Katatonia, before someone else mentions them ) to prog is included, but lots of new PROG bands are not added!

Look at the organizing prog metal topic, lots of PROGRESSIVE bands are suggested there....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:49

ANYWAY... CONGRATULLATIONS TO ALL MUSE FANS HEHEHE


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:45
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by alan_pfeifer alan_pfeifer wrote:

Good to hear!


why..you been deaf recently?





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:34
I love Muse and Kate Bush.The only 'problem' with their inclusion is now I seem to have few non prog artists in my CD collection.Guess I'm a real 'proghead' then
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:25

Originally posted by alan_pfeifer alan_pfeifer wrote:

Good to hear!

why..you been deaf recently?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:13
Good to hear!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:07
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

^^^Not at all - read the ratings:

Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:02

^^^Not at all - read the ratings:

Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
Good, but non-essential
Collectors/fans only
Poor. Only for completionists



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:01
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Kudos to whoever added them

Giving Kudos to yourself?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 16:59
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I am constantly flabbergasted that people continue to confuse bands added as Prog and those that are added as Prog-Related.

Prog-Related bands are not considered to be Prog Bands!!

Prog Related
Rock and Pop Bands and Artists after 1970 who were not truly “prog” (as that term is generally and broadly defined, even by the site), but who were clearly not “mainstream” or simply “rock” bands.

A wide subgenre that encompasses two kinds of bands/artist, that either consist of progressive artist that strayed away from their progressive roots into mainstream rock or were influenced by progressive rock.

Even though the music by these artists is sometimes unrelated it had things in common with prog music in that it was very structured and even adventurous, sometimes hard or heavy, sometimes mellow, strong melodies, good hooks are an integral part of most of the material. Sometimes these artists pioneered other rock genres.

Though most of these artist can't really be considered progressive themselves, their relation to progressive music is not to be underestimated.

 

C'mon it's not that difficult to understand...

 

 

I understand this me old mucker, but how can we give Prog related bands 5 stars then? I think the meaning of the star system has to be reviewed now also.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 16:52
Though an alright band,NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 16:17
YAY!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 16:13

 

Did anyone notice that Jan Akkerman is also here?

How about Carol of Harvest?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 15:48

I am constantly flabbergasted that people continue to confuse bands added as Prog and those that are added as Prog-Related.

Prog-Related bands are not considered to be Prog Bands!!

Prog Related
Rock and Pop Bands and Artists after 1970 who were not truly “prog” (as that term is generally and broadly defined, even by the site), but who were clearly not “mainstream” or simply “rock” bands.

A wide subgenre that encompasses two kinds of bands/artist, that either consist of progressive artist that strayed away from their progressive roots into mainstream rock or were influenced by progressive rock.

Even though the music by these artists is sometimes unrelated it had things in common with prog music in that it was very structured and even adventurous, sometimes hard or heavy, sometimes mellow, strong melodies, good hooks are an integral part of most of the material. Sometimes these artists pioneered other rock genres.

Though most of these artist can't really be considered progressive themselves, their relation to progressive music is not to be underestimated.

 

C'mon it's not that difficult to understand...

 

 

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