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hegelec 
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 Posted: January 03 2006 at 17:28 |
I HATE Sinfield's work with a passion, particularly on the Islands album. I find his lyrics are embarrassingly cliched, lack any subtlety, and at their heart completely meaningless. And all of them wrapped up with enough pomposity to make Rick Wakeman blush.
I much prefer Palmer-James's lyrics; mayhaps a little too Baroque for some, but most of the stuff is cringe-free. Give him the job, not Sinfield!
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 20:03 |
 hegelec wrote:
I HATE Sinfield's work with a passion, particularly on the Islands album. I find his lyrics are embarrassingly cliched, lack any subtlety, and at their heart completely meaningless. And all of them wrapped up with enough pomposity to make Rick Wakeman blush.
I much prefer Cross-Palmer's lyrics; mayhaps a little too Baroque for some, but most of the stuff is cringe-free. Give him the job, not Sinfield!
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Sinfield without doubt deteriorated, but you don't like his work on ITCOTKC?
I happen to like his lyrics, but thats me.
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Winter Wine
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 20:05 |
Did you read that in the Q prog magazine??
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 20:09 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
hegelec wrote:
I HATE Sinfield's work with a passion, particularly on the Islands
album. I find his lyrics are embarrassingly
cliched, lack any subtlety, and at their
heart completely meaningless. And all of
them wrapped up with enough pomposity to make Rick
Wakeman blush.
I much prefer Cross-Palmer's lyrics; mayhaps a little too Baroque
for some, but most of the stuff is cringe-free. Give him the
job, not Sinfield!
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Sinfield without doubt deteriorated, but you don't like his work on ITCOTKC?
I happen to like his lyrics, but thats me. |
I like em too  , especially on Islands and Lizard.
On another note, Sinfield's lyrics more pompous than Wakeman, I think
not!!! Besides, John Anderson's lyrics seem very meaning less on
certain songs. Sinfield may not be the best lyricist, but to me, he is
one of the more original and creative. Just personal preference, I guess  .
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Progger
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 20:12 |
Then why dosn't Fripp get someone to tune his guitar for him?
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Bj-1
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 20:37 |
The Lark's line-up is good enough for me 
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Winter Wine
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 20:40 |
Progger wrote:
Then why dosn't Fripp get someone to tune his guitar for him?
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Because the man is a fu**in GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS WHY! 
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 20:47 |
Winter Wine wrote:
Progger wrote:
Then why dosn't Fripp get someone to tune his guitar for him?
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Because the man is a fu**in GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS WHY!
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Progger you need to get over this Fripp hating thing.....just accept most other proggers adore him. Hes abarasive and annoying at times but definately worth more than a dozen guitarists today in terms of originality and technique......he does need a good songqriter in tow though....
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Fearless
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 21:59 |
Greg Lake...vocals, acoustic guitars
Robert Fripp...lead, acoustic guitars
John Wetton...bass, backing vocals
Keith Tippet...electric piano
Ian McDonald...reeds, woodwinds, mellotron, backing vocals
Michael Giles...percussion
Peter Sinfield...words, illumination
the glory days
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Zac M
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 22:02 |
^Keith Tippett RARELY, if EVER, plays the electric keyboards (at least
on the albums I have that feature him). He mainly sticks to the
acoustic piano .
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Fearless
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 22:06 |
meurglysIII wrote:
^Keith Tippett RARELY, if EVER, plays the electric keyboards (at least on the albums I have that feature him). He mainly sticks to the acoustic piano. |
Yeah, I just realized that. I was going by the Lizard album...pretty sure he plays electric keys on that one.
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Zac M
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 22:08 |
Fearless wrote:
meurglysIII wrote:
^Keith Tippett RARELY, if
EVER, plays the electric keyboards (at least on the albums I have that
feature him). He mainly sticks to the acoustic piano. |
Yeah, I just realized that. I was going by the Lizard album...pretty sure he plays electric keys on that one. |
Yeah, I think that's the only album I have with him on it where he
plays electric keys. Still, a keyboard wizard though and HIGHLY
underrated.
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
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Fearless
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 22:09 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
Winter Wine wrote:
Progger wrote:
I read somewhere that Fripp is actually tone deaf.
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Then why dosn't Fripp get someone to tune his guitar for him?
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Because the man is a fu**in GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS WHY!
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Progger you need to get over this Fripp hating thing.....just accept most other proggers adore him. Hes abarasive and annoying at times but definately worth more than a dozen guitarists today in terms of originality and technique......he does need a good songqriter in tow though....
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My money is on NetsNJ. Those Jersey folk are tough.
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andYouandI45
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Posted: January 04 2006 at 01:32 |
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I really don't think Fripp is tone deaf.
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Phil
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Posted: January 04 2006 at 04:17 |
Winter Wine wrote:
The "Larks tongues in aspic" lineup, can't be
bettered, it's so strong and balanced. You could have 29 people in the
band, but the music would probably be quite crap |
I agree..except
I would vote for the additon of the excellent Mel Collins...
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Dick Heath
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Posted: January 04 2006 at 10:47 |
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Dick Heath
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Posted: January 04 2006 at 10:51 |
hegelec wrote:
I much prefer Cross-Palmer's lyrics; mayhaps a little too Baroque
for some, but most of the stuff is cringe-free. Give him the
job, not Sinfield! |
Check out my audio interview here on the PA with David Cross and I
think you find Cross corrects me naming the lyric writer Richard
Palmer-James - has some nice lyrics on Cross' s latest Closer Than Skin
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proger
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Posted: January 04 2006 at 10:54 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
Studio Lineup:
- Keith Tippett - Piano
- Mel Collins - Flute/Saxophone
- David Cross - Mellotron/Violin
- Robert Fripp - Guitar/Mellotron/Devices
- Michael Giles - Drums, Perc.
- John Wetton - Bass
- Robin Miller - Oboe
- Harry Miller - Double Bass
- Boz Burell - Vocals
- Mark Charig - Cornet
Touring Lineup
- Robert Fripp - Guitar/Mellotron/Devices
- Michael Giles - Drums, Perc.
- John Wetton - Bass/Vocals
- Mel Collins - Flute/Saxophone/Mellotron
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wow, good LineUp...
but I will use Bill not michael giles...
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...live for tomorrow...
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vogre
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Posted: January 04 2006 at 11:04 |
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I've read in a book about robert fripp that when he just began playing he was tone deaf and lacked any sense of rythm.
The best line-ups are the double trio\ larks' tongues line ups.
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gok22us
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Posted: January 04 2006 at 16:06 |
Greg Lake - Vocals
Wetton - Bass
Bruford - Drums
Fripp - Guitar
Adrian Belew, Vocals, Guitar
The band would have Lake and Belew alternating on the singing. I like Greg Lake's singing very much, but he is not better or worse than Adrian Belew, as I love 80's King Crimson. Hell, I love everything that Belew has done with them.
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Fripp can rejoin the band when he learns how to tune his guitar!