Band That Angers You Most

Jozef wrote: akamaisondufromage wrote: Jozef wrote: Gong: Never understood the appeal behind this band. I have listened to both Angel's Egg and You numerous times and still just can't get into their music. I actually prefer the little that I've heard of the Gong-Expresso material. I know their fans are extremely devoted and there are a great many of them here, so I guess I'm on the minority here.   Another one!    Are we just posting my record collection here?  I mean look at some of the stuff in this thread - (Jonas Bro Lady Gaga, Madonna, etc EDIT NB These are not in my collection oh except Ray of Light)  and then sombody goes and does this!  Leave Gong alone!   There are surely more annoying bands than Daevid et al.     I didn't realize it was a crime to dislike Gong. Yes, I realize that people have mentioned Lady Gaga, Madonna, and the Jonas Bros, but I realize already that they are not my cup of tea   . But as I mentioned, I did give Gong a chance and I just did not enjoy their music. I didn't say they sucked, I just said I couldn't get into their music and I did not understand why they seemed to be one of the more popular bands on the site. Besides, why should I simply repeat what everyone else was saying and name the same bands over again? Relax a little bit akamaison, go get yourself a glass of water.

 

jampa17 wrote: stonebeard wrote: jampa17 wrote: stonebeard wrote: I refuse to acknowledge people who act like U2 didn't exist before 2000 and didn't make incredibly excellent music (up until 1993).   Man, for me, they are playing the same song since they begun... and yes, I know they discography, my brother has like 10 album of them, especially the old ones... but for me it's like the same song over and over again... and according to you, they have 17 years of doing bad music... it's enough to angers somebody don't you think...??? What? 4 albums in 17 years? It's not like they're crapping out dross all the time. And they've been generic since 1993, but they've still put out good songs. And I really, really don't think you know their discography. Go ahead and say the songs on Achtung Baby and Zooropa are anything like what came before in their catalog. All you need is ears to tell the difference.   First: I don't have heard one song of them and then think they are bad... they have been throwing out singles every year and yes, all that songs sounds the same...   Second: if you don't believe I know their discography, that's your problem. You don't live in my house and don't have spend entirely nights hearing them because your brother love them... so, I don't just have heard the singles through the radio and friends, but their albums because of my brother.   Third: I even saw one live DVD from them... and the band sounds OK but Bono is pretentious, and he believes he is a Messiah... his voice is weak and lame... that's my opinion about him as a musician... now, if you like him... whatever... is your problem... I don't and the problem is that I can't scape from all the media attention that they have...   And, I think and most of the fans of U2 always gave me the impression that they really see them with mellancolly, like they really appreciate their teen years and fills like U2 was better... but for whoever stranger to their cathaloge, U2 is always the same... I'm not sure about that, it's about subjective things... but U2 play very pop and weak and that's something that you cannot denied... so...

I meet your claim that you know their discography with incredulity because you go on to say "U2 is always the same." They are easily, clearly, obviously not if you've heard their Achtung Baby and Zooropa (maybe even bits of Pop). I will grant you that the band since 1997 more or less has been a pretty weak rehashing of 1987, but all I have to do it continue to point to Achtung Baby and Zooropa. Both are dark, brooding, and heavily electronic and Berlin/gothic infuenced.

This is kind of what I'm talking about, though. I can see how someone could dislike the grandiosity, pretentiousness, messiah-complex nature of 1980s U2 (and especially Bono), and I can even more see how one could dislike further their post 1997 stuff for the same reasons amplified. The thing is saying the band have always been the same betrays your lack of familiarity with their discography, simply. It's not unexpected, as most who criticize them do it too, much to my irritation, and the reason for my rant. It's easy to criticize those two 1990s albums, by the way, but to be logical about it you have to criticize them for different reasons than the other albums. "Weak mix of electronica and stadium rock," could be one, but not what I would say personally.


Edited by stonebeard - February 08 2010 at 09:53

stonebeard wrote: jampa17 wrote: stonebeard wrote: I refuse to acknowledge people who act like U2 didn't exist before 2000 and didn't make incredibly excellent music (up until 1993).   Man, for me, they are playing the same song since they begun... and yes, I know they discography, my brother has like 10 album of them, especially the old ones... but for me it's like the same song over and over again... and according to you, they have 17 years of doing bad music... it's enough to angers somebody don't you think...??? What? 4 albums in 17 years? It's not like they're crapping out dross all the time. And they've been generic since 1993, but they've still put out good songs. And I really, really don't think you know their discography. Go ahead and say the songs on Achtung Baby and Zooropa are anything like what came before in their catalog. All you need is ears to tell the difference.

stonebeard wrote: Bono didn't always wear sunglasses indoors and the band once made genuinely inspired music. People don't even know about October, Zooropa, and probably not even Achtung Baby, which is a far more moving album then many on this website. People see one South Park episode and that becomes the reality for them.

I can assure you Stonebeard that I was being irritated by Boneo long before South Park came along, more for his persona than the actual music. The crucifixion poses for a start, like "I'm suffering for you my children". Way more pompous and pretentious than anything 70s prog came up with IMHO. I thought punk was supposed to have put a stop to that sort of thing?

My favourite U2 story is the one where they played a gig in Scotland:

Bono [stops music and clicks fingers]: "Every time [click] I click my fingers [click] a child in Africa [click]...dies."

Voice in crowd: "Well dont f*ckin do it then!"

jampa17 wrote: stonebeard wrote: I refuse to acknowledge people who act like U2 didn't exist before 2000 and didn't make incredibly excellent music (up until 1993).   Man, for me, they are playing the same song since they begun... and yes, I know they discography, my brother has like 10 album of them, especially the old ones... but for me it's like the same song over and over again... and according to you, they have 17 years of doing bad music... it's enough to angers somebody don't you think...???

What? 4 albums in 17 years? It's not like they're crapping out dross all the time. And they've been generic since 1993, but they've still put out good songs.

And I really, really don't think you know their discography. Go ahead and say the songs on Achtung Baby and Zooropa are anything like what came before in their catalog. All you need is ears to tell the difference.

While they are not exactly current, Spandau Ballet. For the simple reason that, for those of us stuck in desk jobs who want a career in rock music, the last thing I would do if I get famous is make the band dress in suits that would be appropriate for a job at a bank or as a customer service rep.

stonebeard wrote: I refuse to acknowledge people who act like U2 didn't exist before 2000

Who are these people? 

Raff wrote: The T wrote: stonebeard wrote: I refuse to acknowledge people who act like U2 didn't exist before 2000 and didn't make incredibly excellent music (up until 1993). Actually, they did better music before 2000 and 1993 Word. I saw them live in Rome on the Joshua Tree tour, and they smoked. Then they started going downhill, but this doesn't mean they never made good music.

Would you say that Achtung Baby was a step down from The Joshua Tree? I think that's their crowning achievement.

jampa17 wrote: akamaisondufromage wrote: Jozef wrote: Gong: Never understood the appeal behind this band. I have listened to both Angel's Egg and You numerous times and still just can't get into their music. I actually prefer the little that I've heard of the Gong-Expresso material. I know their fans are extremely devoted and there are a great many of them here, so I guess I'm on the minority here.   Another one!    Are we just posting my record collection here?  I mean look at some of the stuff in this thread - (Jonas Bro Lady Gaga, Madonna, etc EDIT NB These are not in my collection oh except Ray of Light)  and then sombody goes and does this!  Leave Gong alone!   There are surely more annoying bands than Daevid et al.       Maybe... do you have Audioslave in your collection as well...??? plain boring bad band... maybe not the musicians but Cornell really stinks on that project... so...

 

Edited by akamaisondufromage - February 05 2010 at 12:37

Jozef wrote: Gong: Never understood the appeal behind this band. I have listened to both Angel's Egg and You numerous times and still just can't get into their music. I actually prefer the little that I've heard of the Gong-Expresso material. I know their fans are extremely devoted and there are a great many of them here, so I guess I'm on the minority here.

 

Edited by akamaisondufromage - February 05 2010 at 12:02