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Varon
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 11:11 |
M o z a r t !!!!!!!!!
Beethoven
Bach
Ravel
Stravinsky
Tchaikovsky
Schumann
P.S. I made a terrible mistake - voted for Beethoven / not for MOZART - so he has still 0 votes!! For shame!
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 11:19 |
presdoug wrote:
Lynx33 wrote:
presdoug wrote:
my three favourite composers are missing-
1) Anton Bruckner-to really live life is to hear his symphonies
2) Hector Berlioz-a really important link between the early and late romantics, and ahead of his time and redefined what an orchestra could do
3) Richard Strauss-the greatest composer of the twentieth century-Elgar was right about him-the musical genius of his day
i do relate to your list, though, as i listen to about 45 different classical music composers in total, some of which are already listed
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you're quite right, Bruckner, Berlioz, R. Strauss, Elgar are great missing ones, due to lack of space. and of course, Mahler as well, how could I forget him!. And you're right too that Bruckner symph's are to be heard just like his masses, I have the symphonies with Klemperer, Karajan and Jochum as well, I think Jochum is the best at them. Berlioz's Te Deum and Requiem is also immortal. From Strauss my favourite is op. 28 and Metamorphosen, but he has many great works. As for Elgar, though he also wrote many huge musics, we can never forget his e-minor cello concertos championed by J. Du Pré, Casals, Fournier etc.
| i love Klemperer's, Karajan's , and Jochum's Bruckner as well, though my favourite Bruckner is done by Bruno Walter (Walter also does my favourite R. Strauss and Mahler) i love my Elgar done with Sir John Barbirolli-magnificent! I love the Berlioz Te Deum and Requiem very much (with Sir Thomas Beecham) and the Berlioz symphonies are wonderfull as well-for me, R. Strauss's tone poems are works of genius, especially Ein Heldenleben, which i consider to be just about the greatest musical work done by anybody (with Mengelberg or Beecham preferred)
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Fantastic. As you can see in my signature, Bruckner is one of my favorite masters. I would point you in the direction of two of the greatest Brucknerians ever: Georg Tintner and Gunter Wand. The former recorded all his symphonies including Die Nullte and the Study Symphony (00) and in many cases chose not the typical version of the works (we all know how historians have had a field day with Bruckner's revised editions of his works). His cycle is superb, though in individual numbers there might be better recordings. Gunter Wand is a consumate Brucknerian, probably the greatest ever. His accounts of 3, 4, 5 and 7 are among the best. For the 7th, I choose Karajan's last recording in DG with the Wiener Philarmoniker, with a magnificent adagio (using the cymbal crash). For the 8th I chose Karajan again. The ninth has strange proponents like Carlo MAria Giulini, a master performance, though I just acquired Bruno Walter's. I've yet to hear it though.
For Strauss the answer is clear: Karajan or Solti. Bernstein has a great Don Quixote though.
Berlioz is great but for me it's the Fantastique and the Requiem; his other symphonies leave me cold. Sir Colin Davis' Fantastique is good, though I've yet to find the perfect one.
But my towering composer is and will always be Bach. I have almost 40 cds of works of his. I just finished listening to St Matthew Passion with Chailly and the Gewandhaus Leipzig, good but failed in the crucial choruses; I have at least 3 versions of most of the works I have. Mozart is another great, with his Requiem and his 41st symphony as my favorites. Beethoven's symphonies are the greatest achievement in the form, Karajan's cycle is my choice (though Toscanini is amazing and quite necessary if you can stand mono). Shostakovich is the greatest symphonist since Bruckner; it's obvious the Symphony is my preferred form. I like concertos and sonatas and other kind of works but the Symphony is and always will be my musical love.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 11:23 |
Lozlan wrote:
Bach. For sheer perfection of form. |
Agreed!
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"I always say that it’s about breaking the rules. But the secret of breaking rules in a way that works is understanding what the rules are in the first place". Rick Wakeman
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 11:28 |
Ruby900 wrote:
Lozlan wrote:
Bach. For sheer perfection of form. |
Agreed! |
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 12:56 |
A lot of composers I have heard of, but none I know really well. Grieg gets my vote for being part of an early childhood memory.
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Lynx33
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 13:29 |
presdoug wrote:
Lynx33 wrote:
presdoug wrote:
my three favourite composers are missing-
1) Anton Bruckner-to really live life is to hear his symphonies
2) Hector Berlioz-a really important link between the early and late romantics, and ahead of his time and redefined what an orchestra could do
3) Richard Strauss-the greatest composer of the twentieth century-Elgar was right about him-the musical genius of his day
i do relate to your list, though, as i listen to about 45 different classical music composers in total, some of which are already listed
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you're quite right, Bruckner, Berlioz, R. Strauss, Elgar are great missing ones, due to lack of space. and of course, Mahler as well, how could I forget him!. And you're right too that Bruckner symph's are to be heard just like his masses, I have the symphonies with Klemperer, Karajan and Jochum as well, I think Jochum is the best at them. Berlioz's Te Deum and Requiem is also immortal. From Strauss my favourite is op. 28 and Metamorphosen, but he has many great works. As for Elgar, though he also wrote many huge musics, we can never forget his e-minor cello concertos championed by J. Du Pré, Casals, Fournier etc.
| i love Klemperer's, Karajan's , and Jochum's Bruckner as well, though my favourite Bruckner is done by Bruno Walter (Walter also does my favourite R. Strauss and Mahler) i love my Elgar done with Sir John Barbirolli-magnificent! I love the Berlioz Te Deum and Requiem very much (with Sir Thomas Beecham) and the Berlioz symphonies are wonderfull as well-for me, R. Strauss's tone poems are works of genius, especially Ein Heldenleben, which i consider to be just about the greatest musical work done by anybody (with Mengelberg or Beecham preferred)
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I have Richard Strauss complete with Kempe, sounds marvellous, and Mengelberg, Reiner, Böhm and Beecham are also exceptional. Right, Bruno Walter was superb, quiet right, I like him, though I haven't deepened into his Bruckner, rather his Mahler symphonies, his Mozart-Requiem etc, but I will. Have you read this book on him? http://enterthemirror.blogbus.com/logs/61071069.html You might find it interesting.
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Mindez elmúlt. Ma már tudom köszönteni a szépséget.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 13:51 |
The T wrote:
presdoug wrote:
Lynx33 wrote:
presdoug wrote:
my three favourite composers are missing-
1) Anton Bruckner-to really live life is to hear his symphonies
2) Hector Berlioz-a really important link between the early and late romantics, and ahead of his time and redefined what an orchestra could do
3) Richard Strauss-the greatest composer of the twentieth century-Elgar was right about him-the musical genius of his day
i do relate to your list, though, as i listen to about 45 different classical music composers in total, some of which are already listed
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you're quite right, Bruckner, Berlioz, R. Strauss, Elgar are great missing ones, due to lack of space. and of course, Mahler as well, how could I forget him!. And you're right too that Bruckner symph's are to be heard just like his masses, I have the symphonies with Klemperer, Karajan and Jochum as well, I think Jochum is the best at them. Berlioz's Te Deum and Requiem is also immortal. From Strauss my favourite is op. 28 and Metamorphosen, but he has many great works. As for Elgar, though he also wrote many huge musics, we can never forget his e-minor cello concertos championed by J. Du Pré, Casals, Fournier etc.
| i love Klemperer's, Karajan's , and Jochum's Bruckner as well, though my favourite Bruckner is done by Bruno Walter (Walter also does my favourite R. Strauss and Mahler) i love my Elgar done with Sir John Barbirolli-magnificent! I love the Berlioz Te Deum and Requiem very much (with Sir Thomas Beecham) and the Berlioz symphonies are wonderfull as well-for me, R. Strauss's tone poems are works of genius, especially Ein Heldenleben, which i consider to be just about the greatest musical work done by anybody (with Mengelberg or Beecham preferred)
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Fantastic. As you can see in my signature, Bruckner is one of my favorite masters. I would point you in the direction of two of the greatest Brucknerians ever: Georg Tintner and Gunter Wand. The former recorded all his symphonies including Die Nullte and the Study Symphony (00) and in many cases chose not the typical version of the works (we all know how historians have had a field day with Bruckner's revised editions of his works). His cycle is superb, though in individual numbers there might be better recordings. Gunter Wand is a consumate Brucknerian, probably the greatest ever. His accounts of 3, 4, 5 and 7 are among the best. For the 7th, I choose Karajan's last recording in DG with the Wiener Philarmoniker, with a magnificent adagio (using the cymbal crash). For the 8th I chose Karajan again. The ninth has strange proponents like Carlo MAria Giulini, a master performance, though I just acquired Bruno Walter's. I've yet to hear it though.
For Strauss the answer is clear: Karajan or Solti. Bernstein has a great Don Quixote though.
Berlioz is great but for me it's the Fantastique and the Requiem; his other symphonies leave me cold. Sir Colin Davis' Fantastique is good, though I've yet to find the perfect one.
But my towering composer is and will always be Bach. I have almost 40 cds of works of his. I just finished listening to St Matthew Passion with Chailly and the Gewandhaus Leipzig, good but failed in the crucial choruses; I have at least 3 versions of most of the works I have. Mozart is another great, with his Requiem and his 41st symphony as my favorites. Beethoven's symphonies are the greatest achievement in the form, Karajan's cycle is my choice (though Toscanini is amazing and quite necessary if you can stand mono). Shostakovich is the greatest symphonist since Bruckner; it's obvious the Symphony is my preferred form. I like concertos and sonatas and other kind of works but the Symphony is and always will be my musical love. |
We have talked about Brucker and R. Strauss, then let's talk about Bach. I have Klemperer's St. Matthew with the PO and PO.Ch., which is divine, Chailly is too blood-worm. You can hear Solti's in the film Casino, it's a bit pale. I am rather a Bach-keyboard ethuisiast. There have been many words on keyboardists, orgonists, pianists playing Bach music, I have so many recordings selected of course by professionalism, and after hearing Gould, Tureck, S. Richter, K. Richter, Rosen, Yudina, Rübsam, Schnabel and so on, the best UNDOUBTEDLY is Wanda Landowska, though I like the others as well. It's a great pity that she didn't record as many Bach works as Glenn Gould did, who is one one of the greatest as well. I don't really like new-comers in the Bach-Keyboard-Universe for example Angela Hewitt or Schiff, sounding colourless to me.Of course Bach's concertos for 1-2-3 pianos-cembalos are also great, solo cello and violin works, and his lure pieces, contrapoint pieces (M. Opfer), and organ and church music of his are also great, but I stick to solo piano compositions of his suites, toccatas, partitas, variations, etc
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 13:53 |
Doing me some Baaaccchhh.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 15:14 |
Lynx33 wrote:
The T wrote:
presdoug wrote:
Lynx33 wrote:
presdoug wrote:
my three favourite composers are missing-
1) Anton Bruckner-to really live life is to hear his symphonies
2) Hector Berlioz-a really important link between the early and late romantics, and ahead of his time and redefined what an orchestra could do
3) Richard Strauss-the greatest composer of the twentieth century-Elgar was right about him-the musical genius of his day
i do relate to your list, though, as i listen to about 45 different classical music composers in total, some of which are already listed
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you're quite right, Bruckner, Berlioz, R. Strauss, Elgar are great missing ones, due to lack of space. and of course, Mahler as well, how could I forget him!. And you're right too that Bruckner symph's are to be heard just like his masses, I have the symphonies with Klemperer, Karajan and Jochum as well, I think Jochum is the best at them. Berlioz's Te Deum and Requiem is also immortal. From Strauss my favourite is op. 28 and Metamorphosen, but he has many great works. As for Elgar, though he also wrote many huge musics, we can never forget his e-minor cello concertos championed by J. Du Pré, Casals, Fournier etc.
| i love Klemperer's, Karajan's , and Jochum's Bruckner as well, though my favourite Bruckner is done by Bruno Walter (Walter also does my favourite R. Strauss and Mahler) i love my Elgar done with Sir John Barbirolli-magnificent! I love the Berlioz Te Deum and Requiem very much (with Sir Thomas Beecham) and the Berlioz symphonies are wonderfull as well-for me, R. Strauss's tone poems are works of genius, especially Ein Heldenleben, which i consider to be just about the greatest musical work done by anybody (with Mengelberg or Beecham preferred)
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Fantastic. As you can see in my signature, Bruckner is one of my favorite masters. I would point you in the direction of two of the greatest Brucknerians ever: Georg Tintner and Gunter Wand. The former recorded all his symphonies including Die Nullte and the Study Symphony (00) and in many cases chose not the typical version of the works (we all know how historians have had a field day with Bruckner's revised editions of his works). His cycle is superb, though in individual numbers there might be better recordings. Gunter Wand is a consumate Brucknerian, probably the greatest ever. His accounts of 3, 4, 5 and 7 are among the best. For the 7th, I choose Karajan's last recording in DG with the Wiener Philarmoniker, with a magnificent adagio (using the cymbal crash). For the 8th I chose Karajan again. The ninth has strange proponents like Carlo MAria Giulini, a master performance, though I just acquired Bruno Walter's. I've yet to hear it though.
For Strauss the answer is clear: Karajan or Solti. Bernstein has a great Don Quixote though.
Berlioz is great but for me it's the Fantastique and the Requiem; his other symphonies leave me cold. Sir Colin Davis' Fantastique is good, though I've yet to find the perfect one.
But my towering composer is and will always be Bach. I have almost 40 cds of works of his. I just finished listening to St Matthew Passion with Chailly and the Gewandhaus Leipzig, good but failed in the crucial choruses; I have at least 3 versions of most of the works I have. Mozart is another great, with his Requiem and his 41st symphony as my favorites. Beethoven's symphonies are the greatest achievement in the form, Karajan's cycle is my choice (though Toscanini is amazing and quite necessary if you can stand mono). Shostakovich is the greatest symphonist since Bruckner; it's obvious the Symphony is my preferred form. I like concertos and sonatas and other kind of works but the Symphony is and always will be my musical love. |
We have talked about Brucker and R. Strauss, then let's talk about Bach. I have Klemperer's St. Matthew with the PO and PO.Ch., which is divine, Chailly is too blood-worm. You can hear Solti's in the film Casino, it's a bit pale. I am rather a Bach-keyboard ethuisiast. There have been many words on keyboardists, orgonists, pianists playing Bach music, I have so many recordings selected of course by professionalism, and after hearing Gould, Tureck, S. Richter, K. Richter, Rosen, Yudina, Rübsam, Schnabel and so on, the best UNDOUBTEDLY is Wanda Landowska, though I like the others as well. It's a great pity that she didn't record as many Bach works as Glenn Gould did, who is one one of the greatest as well. I don't really like new-comers in the Bach-Keyboard-Universe for example Angela Hewitt or Schiff, sounding colourless to me.Of course Bach's concertos for 1-2-3 pianos-cembalos are also great, solo cello and violin works, and his lure pieces, contrapoint pieces (M. Opfer), and organ and church music of his are also great, but I stick to solo piano compositions of his suites, toccatas, partitas, variations, etc
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i like the Bach organ works done by Walter Kraft, and Gould's Goldberg Variations (1981) also like Ferrucio Busoni's transcriptions of Bach works with german pianist Peter Rosel
also harpsichord recordings of Italian Concerto and others with Ralph Kirkpatrick
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 15:19 |
Georg Tintner is not one of my favourite Brucknerians-oh, well, to each his own
Gunter Wand is good, though
for Bruckner, i also really like conductors Oswald Kabasta, Hermann Abendroth, Hans Rosbaud, Joseph Keilberth, F. Charles Adler and Carl Schuricht
Edited by presdoug - October 07 2010 at 15:20
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 15:25 |
From the list, Shostakovich
Although my favorite is actually either Mahler or Dvorak.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 15:56 |
I have a tiny classical collection but from what I know about the genre then Prokoviev gets my vote
Romeo and Juliet
The Enemy God Dances With The Evil Black Spirits
..both covered by ELP
Peter And The Wolf (absolutely love this)
plus the music that became the theme for the seventies TV drama The Onedin Line and was also used in the film Caligula (which I've never seen ,honest guv  )
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 15:59 |
Dmitri Shostakovitch is my favorite composer. I own just about everything he has done. I love his first symphony and all of his string quartets.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 16:03 |
stonebeard wrote:
I can't say anything other than Tchaikovsky, as per my signature would suggest. Nothing any other composer hs done feels just as right to me as the Nutcracker Suite or his piano and violin concertos. |
A very worthy choice (1st for me if not for Stravinsky). More should check out Tchaikovsky's second Piano Concerto.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 17:07 |
Lynx33 wrote:
The T wrote:
presdoug wrote:
Lynx33 wrote:
presdoug wrote:
my three favourite composers are missing-
1) Anton Bruckner-to really live life is to hear his symphonies
2) Hector Berlioz-a really important link between the early and late romantics, and ahead of his time and redefined what an orchestra could do
3) Richard Strauss-the greatest composer of the twentieth century-Elgar was right about him-the musical genius of his day
i do relate to your list, though, as i listen to about 45 different classical music composers in total, some of which are already listed
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you're quite right, Bruckner, Berlioz, R. Strauss, Elgar are great missing ones, due to lack of space. and of course, Mahler as well, how could I forget him!. And you're right too that Bruckner symph's are to be heard just like his masses, I have the symphonies with Klemperer, Karajan and Jochum as well, I think Jochum is the best at them. Berlioz's Te Deum and Requiem is also immortal. From Strauss my favourite is op. 28 and Metamorphosen, but he has many great works. As for Elgar, though he also wrote many huge musics, we can never forget his e-minor cello concertos championed by J. Du Pré, Casals, Fournier etc.
| i love Klemperer's, Karajan's , and Jochum's Bruckner as well, though my favourite Bruckner is done by Bruno Walter (Walter also does my favourite R. Strauss and Mahler) i love my Elgar done with Sir John Barbirolli-magnificent! I love the Berlioz Te Deum and Requiem very much (with Sir Thomas Beecham) and the Berlioz symphonies are wonderfull as well-for me, R. Strauss's tone poems are works of genius, especially Ein Heldenleben, which i consider to be just about the greatest musical work done by anybody (with Mengelberg or Beecham preferred)
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Fantastic. As you can see in my signature, Bruckner is one of my favorite masters. I would point you in the direction of two of the greatest Brucknerians ever: Georg Tintner and Gunter Wand. The former recorded all his symphonies including Die Nullte and the Study Symphony (00) and in many cases chose not the typical version of the works (we all know how historians have had a field day with Bruckner's revised editions of his works). His cycle is superb, though in individual numbers there might be better recordings. Gunter Wand is a consumate Brucknerian, probably the greatest ever. His accounts of 3, 4, 5 and 7 are among the best. For the 7th, I choose Karajan's last recording in DG with the Wiener Philarmoniker, with a magnificent adagio (using the cymbal crash). For the 8th I chose Karajan again. The ninth has strange proponents like Carlo MAria Giulini, a master performance, though I just acquired Bruno Walter's. I've yet to hear it though.
For Strauss the answer is clear: Karajan or Solti. Bernstein has a great Don Quixote though.
Berlioz is great but for me it's the Fantastique and the Requiem; his other symphonies leave me cold. Sir Colin Davis' Fantastique is good, though I've yet to find the perfect one.
But my towering composer is and will always be Bach. I have almost 40 cds of works of his. I just finished listening to St Matthew Passion with Chailly and the Gewandhaus Leipzig, good but failed in the crucial choruses; I have at least 3 versions of most of the works I have. Mozart is another great, with his Requiem and his 41st symphony as my favorites. Beethoven's symphonies are the greatest achievement in the form, Karajan's cycle is my choice (though Toscanini is amazing and quite necessary if you can stand mono). Shostakovich is the greatest symphonist since Bruckner; it's obvious the Symphony is my preferred form. I like concertos and sonatas and other kind of works but the Symphony is and always will be my musical love. |
We have talked about Brucker and R. Strauss, then let's talk about Bach. I have Klemperer's St. Matthew with the PO and PO.Ch., which is divine, Chailly is too blood-worm. You can hear Solti's in the film Casino, it's a bit pale. I am rather a Bach-keyboard ethuisiast. There have been many words on keyboardists, orgonists, pianists playing Bach music, I have so many recordings selected of course by professionalism, and after hearing Gould, Tureck, S. Richter, K. Richter, Rosen, Yudina, Rübsam, Schnabel and so on, the best UNDOUBTEDLY is Wanda Landowska, though I like the others as well. It's a great pity that she didn't record as many Bach works as Glenn Gould did, who is one one of the greatest as well. I don't really like new-comers in the Bach-Keyboard-Universe for example Angela Hewitt or Schiff, sounding colourless to me.Of course Bach's concertos for 1-2-3 pianos-cembalos are also great, solo cello and violin works, and his lure pieces, contrapoint pieces (M. Opfer), and organ and church music of his are also great, but I stick to solo piano compositions of his suites, toccatas, partitas, variations, etc
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I love all of Bach's music but my focus seems to be on orchestral and choral music. I have only two version of the Matthaus Passion, I need one with original instruments (probably'll do Herreweghe) and I need a grandiose, bloated one like Solti to make up for Chailly's Mozart-ized direction. I just acquired the Easter Oratorio, I just need a version of the Ascension one. St. John's I have under Britten, good enough. The Mass in B minor exists in two form in my collection: Karajan (quite strange but interesting) and Boston Baroque/Pearlman on period instruments (yet to hear). The Christmas Oratorio is another magnificent work. I own two versions, Harnoncourt and Herreweghe. Also, I own a few cantatas. For orchestral music, I'll just say I have 6 versions of the violin concertos, probably my favorite concertos ever. Add that to mulyiple Brandenburgs and Suites and you get the idea.
For one-instrument only, I love Walcha's organ works though for the justly famous D-minor tocatta I prefer Richter. Partitas (for cembalo and violin) and sonatas are favorites, too. One question for you: do you prefer your keyboard-Bach in cembalo or piano? I prefer cembalo 100%, in fact I don't own ANY piano Bach. Even a cd I have with Glenn Gould playing it's on the cembalo (not a common event).
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Lynx33
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 17:56 |
The T wrote:
Lynx33 wrote:
The T wrote:
presdoug wrote:
Lynx33 wrote:
presdoug wrote:
my three favourite composers are missing-
1) Anton Bruckner-to really live life is to hear his symphonies
2) Hector Berlioz-a really important link between the early and late romantics, and ahead of his time and redefined what an orchestra could do
3) Richard Strauss-the greatest composer of the twentieth century-Elgar was right about him-the musical genius of his day
i do relate to your list, though, as i listen to about 45 different classical music composers in total, some of which are already listed
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you're quite right, Bruckner, Berlioz, R. Strauss, Elgar are great missing ones, due to lack of space. and of course, Mahler as well, how could I forget him!. And you're right too that Bruckner symph's are to be heard just like his masses, I have the symphonies with Klemperer, Karajan and Jochum as well, I think Jochum is the best at them. Berlioz's Te Deum and Requiem is also immortal. From Strauss my favourite is op. 28 and Metamorphosen, but he has many great works. As for Elgar, though he also wrote many huge musics, we can never forget his e-minor cello concertos championed by J. Du Pré, Casals, Fournier etc.
| i love Klemperer's, Karajan's , and Jochum's Bruckner as well, though my favourite Bruckner is done by Bruno Walter (Walter also does my favourite R. Strauss and Mahler) i love my Elgar done with Sir John Barbirolli-magnificent! I love the Berlioz Te Deum and Requiem very much (with Sir Thomas Beecham) and the Berlioz symphonies are wonderfull as well-for me, R. Strauss's tone poems are works of genius, especially Ein Heldenleben, which i consider to be just about the greatest musical work done by anybody (with Mengelberg or Beecham preferred)
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Fantastic. As you can see in my signature, Bruckner is one of my favorite masters. I would point you in the direction of two of the greatest Brucknerians ever: Georg Tintner and Gunter Wand. The former recorded all his symphonies including Die Nullte and the Study Symphony (00) and in many cases chose not the typical version of the works (we all know how historians have had a field day with Bruckner's revised editions of his works). His cycle is superb, though in individual numbers there might be better recordings. Gunter Wand is a consumate Brucknerian, probably the greatest ever. His accounts of 3, 4, 5 and 7 are among the best. For the 7th, I choose Karajan's last recording in DG with the Wiener Philarmoniker, with a magnificent adagio (using the cymbal crash). For the 8th I chose Karajan again. The ninth has strange proponents like Carlo MAria Giulini, a master performance, though I just acquired Bruno Walter's. I've yet to hear it though.
For Strauss the answer is clear: Karajan or Solti. Bernstein has a great Don Quixote though.
Berlioz is great but for me it's the Fantastique and the Requiem; his other symphonies leave me cold. Sir Colin Davis' Fantastique is good, though I've yet to find the perfect one.
But my towering composer is and will always be Bach. I have almost 40 cds of works of his. I just finished listening to St Matthew Passion with Chailly and the Gewandhaus Leipzig, good but failed in the crucial choruses; I have at least 3 versions of most of the works I have. Mozart is another great, with his Requiem and his 41st symphony as my favorites. Beethoven's symphonies are the greatest achievement in the form, Karajan's cycle is my choice (though Toscanini is amazing and quite necessary if you can stand mono). Shostakovich is the greatest symphonist since Bruckner; it's obvious the Symphony is my preferred form. I like concertos and sonatas and other kind of works but the Symphony is and always will be my musical love. |
We have talked about Brucker and R. Strauss, then let's talk about Bach. I have Klemperer's St. Matthew with the PO and PO.Ch., which is divine, Chailly is too blood-worm. You can hear Solti's in the film Casino, it's a bit pale. I am rather a Bach-keyboard ethuisiast. There have been many words on keyboardists, orgonists, pianists playing Bach music, I have so many recordings selected of course by professionalism, and after hearing Gould, Tureck, S. Richter, K. Richter, Rosen, Yudina, Rübsam, Schnabel and so on, the best UNDOUBTEDLY is Wanda Landowska, though I like the others as well. It's a great pity that she didn't record as many Bach works as Glenn Gould did, who is one one of the greatest as well. I don't really like new-comers in the Bach-Keyboard-Universe for example Angela Hewitt or Schiff, sounding colourless to me.Of course Bach's concertos for 1-2-3 pianos-cembalos are also great, solo cello and violin works, and his lure pieces, contrapoint pieces (M. Opfer), and organ and church music of his are also great, but I stick to solo piano compositions of his suites, toccatas, partitas, variations, etc
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I love all of Bach's music but my focus seems to be on orchestral and choral music. I have only two version of the Matthaus Passion, I need one with original instruments (probably'll do Herreweghe) and I need a grandiose, bloated one like Solti to make up for Chailly's Mozart-ized direction. I just acquired the Easter Oratorio, I just need a version of the Ascension one. St. John's I have under Britten, good enough. The Mass in B minor exists in two form in my collection: Karajan (quite strange but interesting) and Boston Baroque/Pearlman on period instruments (yet to hear). The Christmas Oratorio is another magnificent work. I own two versions, Harnoncourt and Herreweghe. Also, I own a few cantatas. For orchestral music, I'll just say I have 6 versions of the violin concertos, probably my favorite concertos ever. Add that to mulyiple Brandenburgs and Suites and you get the idea.
For one-instrument only, I love Walcha's organ works though for the justly famous D-minor tocatta I prefer Richter. Partitas (for cembalo and violin) and sonatas are favorites, too. One question for you: do you prefer your keyboard-Bach in cembalo or piano? I prefer cembalo 100%, in fact I don't own ANY piano Bach. Even a cd I have with Glenn Gould playing it's on the cembalo (not a common event). |
As I was trained to be a pianist but failed in the way to be a real good one, I must say I prefer piano as usual, Scriabin is my favourite, mostly his late pieces, which are highly recomended to any modern/minimalist/atonal etc music enthusiasts, but in case of Bach I must say Wanda Landowska's cembalo playing, as she almost exlusively played that instrument, is UNBEATABLE. I'm absorbed, amazed and touched by her playing ANYTIME I listen to it, it is the music of walking out of life into the stars. By the way, Herreweghe (I have his Christmas Orat. with the Müncheners) is grandoise in playing Bach's music in the authentic way on authentic instruments. As for Bach's organ works, Karl Richter, Ton Koopman, Hans Fagius, Simon Preston are in my collection. I also like Bach transcription whether they are orchestral (Stokowski's works are interesting) or pianistic (by Busoni, Bauer, Ziloti, Kempff, Friedman, Hess, Murdoch etc.).
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 18:50 |
LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN is my prefered one. The perfect combination between pompous and melodic is superb. 5ş, 7ş, 8ş and 9ş symphonies are stunning. Some pieces as the Victory of Wellington are really great too.
Others I like are Wagner (mainly the instrumental parts of his composition, as Tanhauser or Lohengrin), and some things from Haendel, Tchaykovsky, Borodin, Brahms or Schubert.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 19:51 |
To me, Mahler, who is a major composer missing from this poll, is king. In his stead, I will choose Brahms for his generous usage of lush major 6th chords in his Symphonies. Brahms 3rd is simply the best of his 4.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 21:19 |
Johnnytuba wrote:
To me, Mahler, who is a major composer missing from this poll, is king. In his stead, I will choose Brahms for his generous usage of lush major 6th chords in his Symphonies. Brahms 3rd is simply the best of his 4. |
Man, i love Mahler, especially the symphony recordings with conductors Bruno Walter and the overlooked F. Charles Adler-my fave Mahler works are symphonies 1,3, 4 and 6 i can really appreciate Brahms when i am in the mood-all four symphonies are striking-you should hear them done by conductor Felix Weingartner-superb!
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 23:42 |
Mahler's 6th, 1st, 5th and 8th are my favorites. Bernstein rules them.
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