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Points: 130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2005 at 09:21
Hi italians!
Why prog fails? Because although Italy has a great music tradition and history (we could remember for example that half of the most importan XIX century Opera composers were italian: Verdi, Rossini, Puccini, just to name a few), we lost completely our love and interest for MUSIC!

I will be a little bit "unpolitically correct", but the hype prog had in the '70s was because prog was considered as "protest" music, not simply music and experimentation in sound. The word was "protest" not music. Nowadays Eminem is seen as "protest" music and so it's why he's popular.

Probably you would wonder why Britney Spears or Blue are popular. I don't know, but I think MTV plays its part. MTV is seen as a "protest" television, focusing on music and the message is that music is only a mean of "protest", so only what MTV transmit is seen as music.

I also think the majority of italian listener have no real musical interest, music is just a social mean of making contacts: no-one listens to IQ or Steve Hackett or Brahms (classical music for me suffer the same illenss in Italy) because it would be difficult to find someone with the same tastes. So everyone listen to the same songs.

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Semm che, semm che settà giò in del bar / a cercà l'universo nel bucèer del Cynar
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Points: 42 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2005 at 11:29

Originally posted by Paulieg Paulieg wrote:

It's the same here in the United States.  Cable is full of MTV,FUSE, MTV2( like we don't have enough mtv already ), etc. bullsh*t.  I can't stand the crap the masses listen to.  It's the same with the radio stations.  All they play is rap bullsh*t.  I can't believe the crap that sells.  The videos are horrible.  It's all about the money you got, the girl you got, the guns you got, and how tough you are.  It's all about image and posing bullsh*t.  These guys all must be so insecure that they have to flaunt this type of bullsh*t on tv videos.  It's sick.  It makes me want to puke.  None of it is about the MUSIC.  It's such a sad state of affairs.  By the way, I'm a big Italian progressive rock fan.  Today I was listening to the Metamorfosi album, Inferno.  What an album.  The Italians are great musicians.  They put so much passion into the art of music, yes I mean MUSIC, not the crap on MTV.  I'd love to go to Italy and see Banco, PFM, La Maschera Di Cera, etc. perform.  I'll get off my soap box now. It just pisses me off that the music industry is in such a sad state of affairs.  Thank God for Prog.  

I go down the gym 2 or 3 times a week and they have some music channel on - its bloody awful  ..... full of the likes of Justin Timberlake ( whata ridiculous voice !) and other such dross ...I know its Justin Timberlake because it said so underneath  on the video. Its either that or rappers or the likes of Britney  , or the worst of all ........ Kylie Minogue .
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I come from a little town near Pistoia, Tuscany. I must say that in Italy many people DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT MUSIC!!
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Points: 17121 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 12:35

Originally posted by Grace Flower Grace Flower wrote:

I come from a little town near Pistoia, Tuscany. I must say that in Italy many people DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT MUSIC!!

Precisely, its like that all over the place. But I must say Octavarium at #2 in Italy, very good indeed  But of course its going to be ignored by the popular TV stations, because DT never makes a music video. (They should have done that with These Walls or one of those lighter two)
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