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Some of the top 100 that I consider overrated are "Free Hand" by Gentle Giant...I personally prefer "The Power and the Glory" or "Octopus", which are rated significantly lower.
 
"In the Court of the Crimson King" I think is VASTLY overrated.
 
Although I love Rush, I always thought "Moving Pictures" as overrated Shocked
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Originally posted by King Winter King Winter wrote:

Wow, look I made some troubles here Shocked...
Anyway, I named some albums "overrated" because I consider myself consensus. I usually appriciate things that pepole usually like (I like very much all albums in the top 10 on this site, for example). So, when I hear a an everyone-likes-it album, and I don't find it that good, It's weird to me. I guess I use the word "overrated" just to explain myself how come I don't like that much an album that most of the proggers does like very much (I don't expect to be in consensus with people who listen to "regular" music)...
The purpose of this thread was to find out if there are people who agree with me, and what other classics\masterpieces pepople love to hate...
Talking with pepole who feels the same enthusiasm as you about song/album/band is a great thing to me, and I think that this is the main purpose of music : connecting people ... But, as I read more and more opinions, I understand that many times I can't have this connection, and that's o.k... because like I have my own special taste, everyone has it's own spaecial taste which is differenet than mine. And if everyone would have the same taste. the discussions in PA would have been very boring!
So, thanks everyone who took part in this thread, I learned from you all guys, and I hope I'll have other productive discussions here Smile...
 
Let us just say that "overrated" has just historically been a dirty word around PA. It basically is laden with negative innotations.  Basically it says "my tastes are better than everyone else's", "you are an idiot for liking that garbage", "you have no business being on a prog site liking that stuff,  you should only like Magma and their ilk", etc etc etc.  Most posts in these threads end up being "I think that this classic album sucks." "Yes, me too".  "Oh yeah, well i think this classic album sucks, and by the way your mama wears combat boots".   
 
Maybe that was your intention, probably it wasn't, but just read this thread and see that is basically how it goes.  I've learned long ago not to give a rat's ass about other people's opinions about what I like and what I don't like, and I couldn't give a rat's ass what other people's opinions are about my opinions.  What irks me though is the negative way people go about it.  I come here for happy entertainment, not negative Debby Downer entertainment.  I am cool with the enthusiasm people have over bands that I don't necessarily like, but it does piss me off when people have nothing but negative things to say about bands or music that is on here.  There is such a thing as bad prog, but my point of view some of the worst prog is still better than anything that you are going to hear on the radio today.  Thus my post of overrated albums.
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anything by Neil Young, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Eric Clapton or Bruce Cockburn, yawn. (i am already starting to fall asleep)
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Fragile, as much as I like Yes. This seems like a pretty average album.. Well not average but not what people make it up to be.. Anyways I prefer The Yes Album to this.

In the Court of the Crimson King.. Haven't really listened to much King Crimson. Yes I know this was a very important album, but out of the five tracks, only two I "like" 21st Century Schizoid Man and the Title Track.

Brain Salad Surgery. Mainly because of Karn evil 9, can't remember the second half of the song, the first part was pretty awesome, but after that it sounded like to much of Keith Emerson pressing random buttoms
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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Good old 'overrated' eh?

Over-rated = an album I don't like as much as a lot of other people do, therefore I'm right & they're wrong.
Yes. Exactly. 
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And I must second the inclusion of The Wall.  Most of it is boring.  Sure, there are a few good songs, but not even enough to make an album side.  And hadn't Roger Waters milked the Syd Barrett story to death by then?
 
Genesis, on the other hand, I don't particularly like, but I can appreciate the artistry of the albums.


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Who cares if something is overrated.

I feel much more for the many many gems here that don't get an inch of the attention they deserve!
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Wow, look I made some troubles here Shocked...
Anyway, I named some albums "overrated" because I consider myself consensus. I usually appriciate things that pepole usually like (I like very much all albums in the top 10 on this site, for example). So, when I hear a an everyone-likes-it album, and I don't find it that good, It's weird to me. I guess I use the word "overrated" just to explain myself how come I don't like that much an album that most of the proggers does like very much (I don't expect to be in consensus with people who listen to "regular" music)...
The purpose of this thread was to find out if there are people who agree with me, and what other classics\masterpieces pepople love to hate...
Talking with pepole who feels the same enthusiasm as you about song/album/band is a great thing to me, and I think that this is the main purpose of music : connecting people ... But, as I read more and more opinions, I understand that many times I can't have this connection, and that's o.k... because like I have my own special taste, everyone has it's own spaecial taste which is differenet than mine. And if everyone would have the same taste. the discussions in PA would have been very boring!
So, thanks everyone who took part in this thread, I learned from you all guys, and I hope I'll have other productive discussions here Smile...
 
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WHOA WHOA...I don't think there's going to be hatred and violence on THIS thread over some disagreements and difference of opinions.
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It is a word that is commonly used by trolls.  And it is one of them there fighting words. 
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2010 at 13:48
I really understand why people get so violently upset about the word overrated. It's a shorthand way of saying that you don't like something that is popular with others. Why not have a word for that? It saves time.
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Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

i.e. it is pretty damn hard for a prog album to be considered overrated given they aren't even a blip amongst the conciousness of most of the living world.
I'm pretty sure he means overrated as in overrated on this site.

 
I suspect that you are right, but since he never mentioned the word prog or on a prog site in his original post or title, I took liberty with that.  And if I've posted it once, I've posted it 1000 I hate the word overrated and I pretty much find everyone who uses it to be pathetically overrated.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

A pointless thread really. Just looking at this page, I love Misplaced Childhood, most of Led Zep, virtually all of Genesis of whatever era, all of Floyd, most of PT, and some DT. Just because I do, does not make them over rated - it just means I enjoy them more than other members.

For example, I think PT's new album is awful, and really cannot appreciate it at all, but it doesn't mean that it is over rated in my opinion - it's just that others enjoy it more than I do. 
LOL I don't think you get it...by overrated we mean what WE think is overrated. If everyone was to agree that some album is overrated, it wouldn't be overrated anymore now would it?


I think I do actuallyCool - dictionary definition of overrated:

to rate, assess, or estimate too highly

So, if an album is rated, on average, 4.52 (i.e. an indispensable album on PA by the ratings), and you think it is a 3.0 album, i.e. merely good, then some posters automatically call that album overrated. It isn't - it's just that you don't rate it as highly.
That doesn't make sense though. If what you say it's true, the concept of overrating something is impossible, because it reverses itself. It's OUR opinion. We're simply stating what WE think is overrated. There's nothing wrong with that. But if you want, you can pretend the thread title is "Albums You Think Are Overrated" instead of "Most overrated albums". Either way, it won't change the content of the posts.
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Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

A pointless thread really. Just looking at this page, I love Misplaced Childhood, most of Led Zep, virtually all of Genesis of whatever era, all of Floyd, most of PT, and some DT. Just because I do, does not make them over rated - it just means I enjoy them more than other members.

For example, I think PT's new album is awful, and really cannot appreciate it at all, but it doesn't mean that it is over rated in my opinion - it's just that others enjoy it more than I do. 
LOL I don't think you get it...by overrated we mean what WE think is overrated. If everyone was to agree that some album is overrated, it wouldn't be overrated anymore now would it?


I think I do actuallyCool - dictionary definition of overrated:

to rate, assess, or estimate too highly

So, if an album is rated, on average, 4.52 (i.e. an indispensable album on PA by the ratings), and you think it is a 3.0 album, i.e. merely good, then some posters automatically call that album overrated. It isn't - it's just that you don't rate it as highly.

I did my English O level when we had proper education in this country you knowGeekLOL
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

A pointless thread really. Just looking at this page, I love Misplaced Childhood, most of Led Zep, virtually all of Genesis of whatever era, all of Floyd, most of PT, and some DT. Just because I do, does not make them over rated - it just means I enjoy them more than other members.

For example, I think PT's new album is awful, and really cannot appreciate it at all, but it doesn't mean that it is over rated in my opinion - it's just that others enjoy it more than I do. 
LOL I don't think you get it...by overrated we mean what WE think is overrated. If everyone was to agree that some album is overrated, it wouldn't be overrated anymore now would it?
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Speaking of overrated: Opeth Evil Smile
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A pointless thread really. Just looking at this page, I love Misplaced Childhood, most of Led Zep, virtually all of Genesis of whatever era, all of Floyd, most of PT, and some DT. Just because I do, does not make them over rated - it just means I enjoy them more than other members.

For example, I think PT's new album is awful, and really cannot appreciate it at all, but it doesn't mean that it is over rated in my opinion - it's just that others enjoy it more than I do. 
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

i.e. it is pretty damn hard for a prog album to be considered overrated given they aren't even a blip amongst the conciousness of most of the living world.
I'm pretty sure he means overrated as in overrated on this site.

With that said...

Everything by Led Zeppelin
Everything by Genesis that doesn't involve Peter Gabriel (and Selling England by the Pound)
Some Stuff by Pink Floyd (mainly Wish You Were Here and the Wall)
Everything by Porcupine Tree
Some Stuff by Dream Theater (but Train of Thought is actually underrated)
Everything by Kraftwerk

EDIT: Oh yeah, and everything neo-prog.


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EVen as a straightforward Pop album it's still boring.
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Originally posted by Pimpernal Pimpernal wrote:

Originally posted by UndercoverBoy UndercoverBoy wrote:


Now for the most overrated Prog album, I have two words: Misplaced Childhood.Dead
 
It is overrated in the prog community no doubt, but it's not really not that progressive.  In my opinion it's underrated as a rock album, but then again what do I know?
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