French approve ban on burqas...

Epignosis wrote: Chris S wrote: I don't think you'll find many suicide bombers blowing up mosques and their own families. Wear it at home and get off on it.   And the first Nun to blow up 20 innocent muslims, europeans, africans, earthlings, then damn well ban that friggin habit too or..   we can all get warm and fuzzy the next time suicide bombers attack and we all say " Shame what about the majorities loss of human rights and loss of liberty" we should really allow more nuns habits and burqas.   Until you know of someone who was lost or blown to smithereens, rant away about loss of "so called" priveliges.   Time for the Just For Fun section i think...   The tree analogy was rediculous. By your foolishness, we should ban automobiles too.  "They" kill more people than terrorists.

that analogy is getting old Robert. Time to think of a new one.

Chris S wrote: I don't think you'll find many suicide bombers blowing up mosques and their own families. Wear it at home and get off on it.   And the first Nun to blow up 20 innocent muslims, europeans, africans, earthlings, then damn well ban that friggin habit too or..   we can all get warm and fuzzy the next time suicide bombers attack and we all say " Shame what about the majorities loss of human rights and loss of liberty" we should really allow more nuns habits and burqas.   Until you know of someone who was lost or blown to smithereens, rant away about loss of "so called" priveliges.   Time for the Just For Fun section i think...   The tree analogy was rediculous.

By your foolishness, we should ban automobiles too.  "They" kill more people than terrorists.

I have talked with many women who were burkas, and the funny thing is that the usually feel liberated by wearing them. Here is an account of a German woman who decided to wear one:

http://tinyurl.com/35olzxr

It is in German though, but I will translate it; just give me some time.

The strange thing is that her report now makes me curious about wearing one, in the full-fledged form she describes. And I am not of the Islamic faith, but I can see her point.

BaldFriede wrote: What about a nun's habit, by the way?

I'm sure France would ban that too if they could - they've banned children from wearing any and all religious symbols in school.

Correct. 

What about a nun's habit, by the way?

CPicard wrote: Too bad there are so few French-speaking persons on this forum to make subtitles for this video : http://<iframe marginwidth="0" width="434" height="288" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" src="www.lcpan.fr/Player-video-mp4:docs-ad-hoC/3548_LCP_2010-06-06_19h01min50s_44280.mp4.html"></iframe> Warning: French muslim women speaking! Movie shot by a French-Iranian director! OMG! The people concerned are talking!

The link does not work this way.

Here: http://www.lcpan.fr/Player-video-mp4:docs-ad-hoc/3548_LCP_2010-06-06_19h01min50s_44280.mp4.html

aginor wrote: Chris S wrote: Sorry but Burqas need to be banned, hopefully other nations will follow suit. Looking at Dubai and commercialism hitting the muslim areas be it westernized or M.East areas, it is time to get WISE for that religion and move with the times. If one suicide bomber is disguised then the method needs to be removed. Wear the burqa as much as they want at their home or in their place of worship. Good one France   I agree i could not said it better, I don't opous islamic kulture but i'm think enlightment is lacking in that religion, i don't hope what we say here will cause any fatwa thou

The T wrote: thellama73 wrote: Snow Dog wrote: thellama73 wrote: I find the idea of a government telling its citizens what they can and cannot wear utterly abhorrent. Yet another reason to dislike France. For me its a reason to like France. Go figure. Don't get me wrong. I am no friend of Islam. But what people choose to wear is their own business, not some bureaucrat's.  When said choice is not really one, when is not really free, when there's no "liberty" (to use the right word) for one half of the population, I applaud the bureaucrat's action.  Many islamic women probably choose to wear that sh*t out of religious pride, maybe. But what about the other big (probably higher) percentage of islamic women who are forced to hide only because men said it so? Where's the liberty? This makes it equal for all of them. You can't wear it whether you want it or not. Problem solved.  Who is to say if the very religious choice was any free? Did these women freely choose to be muslim? Let's go one step forward in all-around liberty then... people should have a choicer over what religion they follow... For many of these women born in muslim countries (not in France) did that choice ever exist??  Just another reason to admire France.

Exactly, who is to say that? And who is to say the opposite? Have they asked  Islamic women how they want to be dressed? I think this law of France is absolutely abhorrent, and Jean and I took part in a demonstration for freedom in which we dressed as Islamic women, veiled head to toe and carrying signs saying "Take your hands off my burka". No, the decision of a person how he or she wants to dress must remain his or her own, and no state has to interfere there.
It is in this context fairly significant that of all German parties the Green party, the party which DEFINITELY is the party that takes care of equal rights for women the most (no other party has such a high percentage of women at the top, for example) protested against this law the most.