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rushfan4 
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 Posted: June 18 2015 at 15:11 |
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King Crimson and Can probably only made the RS list because of their songs that were incorporated into rap/hip-hop songs. Both Kanye, I think.
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I'd say probably not, since RS choose Future Days, and the multitude - and it is a multitude - of EDM and hip hop artists who sample Can are almost always sampling Ege Bamyasi, including the time Kanye did it. And most of the remainder would have to be trance artists sampling Soon Over Babaluma's "Chain Reaction". |
My comment was tongue-in-cheek regarding RS but you make a good point that they did choose a different album.
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twalsh
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 15:41 |
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I'm pretty happy with this list, flawed as it may be. I like that it doesn't limit itself to the prog heyday of the 1970s, but shows prog as an ongoing phenomenon. Younger readers may learn of some good music and older readers will learn that rumours of prog's death have been greatly exaggerated.
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More heavy prog, please!
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micky
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 15:54 |
LearsFool wrote:
trance artists sampling Soon Over Babaluma's "Chain Reaction". |
frickin A man...  Who needs trance after drooling and pissing on oneself to that gem 
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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The Acolyte
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 17:16 |
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When it comes to "best of" or "top" lists it's always hard to please everybody...keeping this in mind, I think it's a good effort. Greetings from Colombia, I'm back again at the forum!
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micky
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 17:31 |
hah... at least they made 'Rush fan' happy.  funny thing about lists.. you can nail 49 but miss a 50th and out come the critics and amateur comedians. I have often wondered what this site could come up as far as a list
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 18:24 |
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micky
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 18:27 |
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not really... all it is of.. is popular albums. Who cares about that.. people like what they like.
What is far more interesting and the PA's list does nothing to show.. is a qualitative discussion of influence, innovation, and impact on the genre (and beyond). Great albums.. not popular ones.
There is a large difference between great albums .. and popular ones. 'Prog fan' should know that better than anyone.
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KenFrankenstein
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 18:49 |
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Do you guys actually give this rag the time of day? Do you have lives? I don't have much of a life myself but......... Rolling Stone magazine?
Edited by KenFrankenstein - June 18 2015 at 18:51
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Windhawk
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 18:57 |
KenFrankenstein wrote:
Do you guys actually give this rag the time of day? Do you have lives? I don't have much of a life myself but......... Rolling Stone magazine? |
The magazine itself? No, not really. But people will link to interesting articles from the digital edition, and this one in particular is still running like wildfire throughout just about every Facebook group and other SoMe platforms revolving around an interest in progressive rock. Going viral in prog circles if you like. It has kind of been hard to avoid it.
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miamiscot
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 19:01 |
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Love seeing Happy The Man make the cut!!!
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KenFrankenstein
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 19:10 |
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Does Playboy magazine still exist? I think the last time I saw one was when I was 16 years old. Andy Cowell in high school got caught with it and his parents had to come in to see the principal.
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Svetonio
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 20:28 |
KenFrankenstein wrote:
Does Playboy magazine still exist? I think the last time I saw one was when I was 16 years old. Andy Cowell in high school got caught with it and his parents had to come in to see the principal. |
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kenethlevine
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 21:26 |
I am glad to see favorites from Renaissance and Strawbs here, representing the folkier/classical side, as well as Caravan. I'm not sure why Mirage by Camel is the album that gets all the love - I'd put Snow Goose or Moonmadness first. What's gratifying is how I remember the Rolling Stone Record Guide awarding 1 star to the very Renaissance and Camel albums listed here! But while they were correcting their bias against British prog rock somewhat here, they should have included Moody Blues "Days of Future Passed". It's not my favorite by them but it belongs here for sure. Finally, RS as usual overemphasizes the contributions of some very minor prog acts simply because they were American. Take out Happy the Man and Crack the Sky and give us something by Le Orme or Eloy and then we can talk.
edit: of course they also had to put American influences on RENAISSANCE ahead of their British influences. Only in RS
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rogerthat
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 23:16 |
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^^^ lol, just noticed this. Especially ironic in the case of a band as British as they were. Also didn't know they gave 1 star to Ashes...and Mirage; would have been interesting to read their 'justification' of it because it seems difficult to call such eminently pleasing music as so outright bad.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: June 18 2015 at 23:52 |
micky wrote:
not really... all it is of.. is popular albums. Who cares about that.. people like what they like.
What is far more interesting and the PA's list does nothing to show.. is a qualitative discussion of influence, innovation, and impact on the genre (and beyond). Great albums.. not popular ones.
There is a large difference between great albums .. and popular ones. 'Prog fan' should know that better than anyone.
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So, when there is a general consensus among "prog fans" that an album is great - like in the PA Top 100, for instance, where 2500 to 3500 prog reviewers, the self-same people who are posting in this discussion, give an album a high rating - then an album is not great but merely popular? From another perspective, the albums in the PA Top 100, generally speaking, haven't received their acclaim because of their influence, innovation and impact on the genre because "prog fans" (again, the prog reviewers engaged in this discussion) rated them highly because they were merely popular and not influential, innovative and impactful? You are simply defying logic.
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rogerthat
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Posted: June 19 2015 at 00:00 |
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I think some of us need to just take a step back and look at the list from the point of view of the mainstream audience. One may or may not regard some of the big five bands and their albums as overrated but they remain excellent gateway albums for newbies. From that point of view, Future Days is actually a rather ambitious top 10 selection. We may have grown tired of the Dark Sides and the Moving Pictures now because we've overplayed it or are simply annoyed by Floyd or Rush fanboys but what on earth could be wrong with introducing someone to prog through those albums? A top 50 prog list that is NOT specifically directed at prog listeners is bound to reward accessibility and there's nothing wrong with that. Most of the albums in the top 10 are the ones that probably got us into prog so they remain the best bet as far as representing prog goes.
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richardh
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Posted: June 19 2015 at 02:51 |
Its okay really although unfortunately just continues the myth that DSOTM is the best prog album. I'm pleased they included Brain Salad Surgery and not Tarkus or the debut but would have liked to see Trilogy in the list. I would have liked to see IQ represented and choosing Clutching at Straws as Marillion's entry seems odd. Tubular Bells in the list is a bit of a yawn imo as is Phaedra by TD ( would have preferred Ommadawn and Ricochet) . Perhaps one big omission is Aphrodites Child 666. That is a real monster of a prog album in my book but I know not everyone agrees 
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Svetonio
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Posted: June 19 2015 at 08:38 |
richardh wrote:
Its okay really although unfortunately just continues the myth that DSOTM is the best prog album. (...) |
Personally, I'm not a fan of DSTOM, though I think that i t was a good decision to put DSOTM in the first place because of the affirmation of the genre among those who listen to mainstream generally; that album was made to be a commercial pseudo-psychedelia and anyone can listen DSOTM.
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altaeria
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Posted: June 19 2015 at 09:15 |
I am pleasantly surprised that they didn't force Radiohead onto the list. This was probably not authored by any actual Rolling Stone employee. Likely some freelance writer. Regardless of that, I am kinda surprised to see Triumvirat included instead of Tarkus by ELP. That's like listing Starcastle's s/t instead of The Yes Album, or Satanic Majesties instead of Sgt. Peppers. 
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NutterAlert
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Posted: June 19 2015 at 09:30 |
Description of ADII Yeti made me laugh "Half of Yeti was completely improvised in the studio, but it's hard to identify which half" Fabulous album, i'd have put wolf city in top 50 too. OK list from an organ that used to employ organs like Lester Bangs
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