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Floydoid ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 02 2007 Location: Planet Prog Status: Offline Points: 2342 |
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Prog didn't die in 1979, it merely slipped under the radar of the average music fan.
Tho I agree the classic era (where most of the prog I love is from) is approximately 1968-78. Edited by Floydoid - June 13 2024 at 13:00 |
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Mormegil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2010 Location: NE PA Status: Offline Points: 8127 |
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Nothing to add - just amazed that this thread is still going ;-)
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 53916 |
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I don't understand the 1979 demarcation. Why not 1969? Or some other year? Does it not depend on how narrow you define "original." Surely someone could argue so narrowly that anything after King Crimson's debut is unoriginal. I certainly won't.
I can surely enjoy the latest retro prog along with the latest panhead releases. To me, it hasn't "died" nor is going to "die" in my lifetime. In a world of Bob Ross trees, much is hidden between the branches.
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presdoug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 24 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 8933 |
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Prog did not die in 1979.....it evolved, though, since then....
What I like in terms of progressive music seems to fall between the years 1967 and 1982, and later music just isn't my cup of tea, but to say it isn't progressive and does not mean that to a whole lot of folks, I cannot agree with
And as long as I live in a society where you can listen to what you want, I will do just that...it is immaterial to me if others listen to what I do, but, to rephrase Voltaire a little, "A may not like what you hear, but I will defend to the death your right to hear it!" ![]() |
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DarksideofAbel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2024 Location: Santo Domingo Status: Offline Points: 177 |
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 6098 |
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*during the early days of recorded music, its commercial distribution all around the globe wasn't standardized well enough to make it possible to determine the clear beginning of the record industry |
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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This is a statement that would need some solid statistics to earn some validity. Honestly, I don't think that those statistics exist. To me, it just expresses ignorance of many other music domains outside of prog, rock, jazz or folk or others that get sometimes discussed here: there are many other musical territories not or hardly mentioned on these forums that are apparently terra incognita for some - and especially for those who want to defend a claim that "most music after the 70's was a mistake". This, to me, just exposes ignorance about what music has to offer outside of the "mainstream" (rock, pop, prog and the like...). Nothing else: just ignorance. |
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 6098 |
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Not necessarily because it's 100% opinion driven. And I'd say the type of opinion upon whether certain music is good or bad is formed on experience, rather than statistics. To each their own. Statistical evidence would come in handy if one was to document more of a "general opinion" though. My comment was only a way to present one of the many possible reasons such opinion might be expressed. A bit of a "devil's advocate" thing really. However, I agree with you that had GoodDay provieded better argumentation, that statement would've contributed much more to the discussion. Though simple unelaborate answers are good for fun prog polls, they're not the best "weapon of choice" when you want to express your views with clarity and weight. Edited by Hrychu - June 13 2024 at 20:43 |
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Valdez ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1403 |
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Not morbid at all. I’ve been buying thrift store relics for years. There’s going to be a few collectors. Like yourself. But the music we listen to is pretty obscure and the average person will skip right past it . |
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DarksideofAbel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2024 Location: Santo Domingo Status: Offline Points: 177 |
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As you can see yourself! it did die!!! as most of the prog that you love and I bet most of us as well, it is from 1968-79!!! We like new bands from there on (1980 - 2024) due to nostalgia!!!! ![]() |
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DarksideofAbel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2024 Location: Santo Domingo Status: Offline Points: 177 |
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Ok, we are ignorant! Please provide a list of musicians that can top the nortch!!!! these days. but prog!! not classical composter musician or jazz musician. That is the purpose of the post.
Edited by DarksideofAbel - June 13 2024 at 20:55 |
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RockHound ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 03 2013 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 686 |
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I remember the day the music died. Drove my Chevy to the levee.
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[An uninformed opinion on a subjective topic presented as objective fact]!!!!!!!!!
But hey, [punchy one-liner, wink emote]. I didn't want to be left out.
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Ok, let's go into ethnic/world music: Reggae/Ska's best period are by light years the 60/70's until Marley's death. It's just been a rehash since, including dubstep (and please, no Eddy Grant or UB40) if we go to Africa, and Afrobeat or Afrofunk the vest years were the Fella Kuti years and the Nigerian scene... and that was mainly the 70's (just check RYM too see the ratings). In India, Ravi Shankar came to prominence in the 60/70's and he's usually considered the top slot (at lerast to us westerners) I know fairly little about Brazil's music industry (outside a few stars in jazz), but in a nutshell, it seems to moi, that the best era is also the 60/70's. OK, I guess you may score a point about my knowledge of the Balinese music timeline (ditto for Bhutan's scene ![]() .
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 45839 |
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Agreed! The truest and best statement so far.
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15648 |
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Classics need some time so that the world realises they are classics. Music of the sixties & seventies had more time than music of today.
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Octopus II ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 21 2023 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 13772 |
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Prog didn't die in 1979, it just smelled funny.
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TheGazzardian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 8844 |
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Stop feeding the troll
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