Flower Kings Appreciation Thread

^ Agreed.  And yes, I recall that part.  But that part strikes me as more of a man missing out on his sons growing up, not being close enough and spending enough time with him, and the regrets he has from that when his son dies unexpectedly before he does.  But whatever the case, great lyrics.

Well, I've read and followed the lyrics to Garden Of Dreams many times, and to me it seems to be basically a human lifetime in one 60 minute song.  The various sections cover different areas of the persons life, with different perspectives (Tomas' and Roine's).  At least, that is how I've always seen it.  I don't really see Roland's explanation 1 in the lyrics myself.  2, however, is certainly plausible.  And actually, I think that also factors in to my explanation as well.  It's an epic concept for an extremely epic track :-)  And, of course, the initials are G.O.D., so obviously Roine and Tomas were going for a spiritual angle.

Roland113 wrote: So as you all know, I've been on a Flower Power kick lately.  Typically, the lyrics in a song aren't really my focus in a song unless they stand out.  This morning I listened to (most of) The Garden of Dreams on my way into work and focused on the lyrics.  I came up with two interpretations and wanted to get your thoughts. 1)  It's a song about a father loosing his son in a war. 2)  It's a song about God lamenting the fate of humanity. What are your thoughts or for that matter, does anyone (Nov) have the actual answer?

Edited by progrules - July 22 2009 at 13:51

So as you all know, I've been on a Flower Power kick lately.  Typically, the lyrics in a song aren't really my focus in a song unless they stand out.  This morning I listened to (most of) The Garden of Dreams on my way into work and focused on the lyrics.  I came up with two interpretations and wanted to get your thoughts.

1)  It's a song about a father loosing his son in a war.
2)  It's a song about God lamenting the fate of humanity.

What are your thoughts or for that matter, does anyone (Nov) have the actual answer?

^^^^^ Hey guys ! I don't know but somehow I get the impression I missed some kind of point here ??  Well, thank god ! I was starting to think you all had gone crazy or something. But yeah, ok I've been a bad reader. But it was such an intelligent idea by Roland, it was all a bit too much for me I guess .

progrules wrote: I don't want to insult your taste but with the exception of no. 7 & 9 you gathered all the tracks I don't like on Paradox Hotel. And where's Monsters & Men ??

I think you've missed the point

Infandous and Roj,

Stardust drags at times for me.  I love each of the individual songs, but by the time I get about three quarters through the disk, I keep waiting for Stardust (the song) to come on so I can go on to something else.  I could listen to each of the songs from Stardust on their own and enjoy them immensely, but for some reason when I play them all in a row I start to glaze over.

"Unfold the Future" and "Flower Power" are both great albums the whole way through, I just loose track of the songs that I listed above just because the others stand out.  Also, by standing out, I'm not necesarily declaring anything as a favorite.  I still don't know where I stand on "Magic Pie" but didn't need to include it on my 'further listening' list as it stands out on it's own right.

I will say this, I'm getting a better appreciation of "Deaf, Numb and Blind", it's a really good song that I had overlooked.  I'm on the fence about Psychedelic Postcard, it's rather 'Yes'ish and Hudson River Siren's Call is going to be played loudly, on repeat in my house on Halloween.  It just the kind of creepy that will set the mood for the halloweenies.

progrules wrote: natewait wrote: Roland113 wrote: With that being said, which albums are too long in your mind?  If you're willing, try my experiment and let us know what kind of results you get. I followed your advice and made a shortened version of Paradox Hotel: 1. Jealousy 2. Hit Me With A Hit 3. Lucy Had A Dream 4. Bavarian Skies 5. Selfconsuming Fire 6. Mommy Leave the Light On 7. Touch My Heaven 8. Man of the World 9. Life Will Kill You 10. The Way The Waters Are Moving 11. What If God Is Alone It clocks in at about an hour and I am really enjoying it! This is giving me new appreciation of Paradox Hotel, I might have to change how I previously ranked Flower Kings' albums   I don't want to insult your taste but with the exception of no. 7 & 9 you gathered all the tracks I don't like on Paradox Hotel. And where's Monsters & Men ??

Hey Henk,

Sorry man, but you missed the point.  The challenge was to make a playlist out of the ones that you DO NOT appreciate and see if you get a new appreciation for the songs that you didn't like.  Just two pages ago you were complimenting Nate on his appreciation for Monsters and Men.

Roland113 wrote: So here's something that I tried over the weekend.  Some of the Flower Kings albums seem to go on for entirely too long to really be digested properly.  To me, this is especially true for Flower Power and Unfold the Future. So, I'm getting ready to review Flower Power this week and needed to do something for the songs that tend to blur together for me.  What I did was took Flower Power's most memorable tracks (to me at least) and removed them from the playlist.  This left me with an album of: Deaf, Numb and Blind Corruption Power of Kindness Psychedelic Postcard Hudson River Sirens Call Painter Calling Home Afterlife So far this is turning out to be a pretty good album, it's kind of like finding a new FK album.  I think I'll try a similar experiment with Unfold the Future next and see what that does for me. With that being said, which albums are too long in your mind?  If you're willing, try my experiment and let us know what kind of results you get.

natewait wrote: Roland113 wrote: With that being said, which albums are too long in your mind?  If you're willing, try my experiment and let us know what kind of results you get. I followed your advice and made a shortened version of Paradox Hotel: 1. Jealousy 2. Hit Me With A Hit 3. Lucy Had A Dream 4. Bavarian Skies 5. Selfconsuming Fire 6. Mommy Leave the Light On 7. Touch My Heaven 8. Man of the World 9. Life Will Kill You 10. The Way The Waters Are Moving 11. What If God Is Alone It clocks in at about an hour and I am really enjoying it! This is giving me new appreciation of Paradox Hotel, I might have to change how I previously ranked Flower Kings' albums