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Nov ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 28 2009 Status: Offline Points: 523 |
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Disk 2 of Flower Power really does get unfairly criticized in my opinion. I think people just go on what they've heard about the album to be honest. Of course, disk 2 is over-shadowed by disk 1 but then so are sides 3 and 4 of The Lamb over-shadowed by sides 1 and 2 (for example). In my opinion there is some stupendous stuff on FP2 and it's just a matter of taking the time to get to know the tracks properly. I think it's a good idea filtering out all the best songs (as you've done) to become familiar with the less played stuff. I did a similar thing with TFK in iTunes and I'm still getting used to tracks that I used to skip even though I've had all the albums for over 5 years now (apart from the more recent ones of course). There really are some gems in there that I used to skip. Edited by Nov - July 20 2009 at 16:31 |
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Nov ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 28 2009 Status: Offline Points: 523 |
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Strange. I find this to be an utterly gorgeous album from start to finish. TFK fans are sometimes very hard to please ![]() |
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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Odd, I don't find any of their albums to be too long. But that's just me
![]() Okay, I admit there are two songs on Stardust I could do without, and Flower Power could just be the first CD, with maybe Deaf, Numb, and Blind to make it 78 minutes. I could probably also combine the best of Rainmaker with the best of Adam&Eve into one album, though that would be pushing it. Other than that, they are all perfect! And Henk, I agree about Hydrophonia. I enjoy it when I hear it, but it's not something I pull out often. |
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J-Man ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 07 2008 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7826 |
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Many of TFK's double albums can get away with being only one disc, but then again there is a skip button isn't there?
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Roland113 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 30 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Status: Offline Points: 3843 |
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Thanks Nate, see, strangely enough, Paradox Hotel is the only double album by them that I don't phase out half way through. On Paradox, "Life Will Kill You" was largely overlooked by me for a long time, once it clicked with me, it became one of my favorites.
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natewait ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 08 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 218 |
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Interesting idea, Roland. I think many Flower Kings albums are perhaps too long (Flower Power, Unfold the Future, and Paradox Hotel are the ones that come to mind). I think I might do this with Paradox Hotel as I've always struggled with some of the shorter tracks. If I could gain a similar appreciation for those as I can the bigger epics (Monsters and Men, Minor Giant Steps) it could be my favorite Flower Kings album.
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Roland113 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 30 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Status: Offline Points: 3843 |
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So here's something that I tried over the weekend. Some of the Flower Kings albums seem to go on for entirely too long to really be digested properly. To me, this is especially true for Flower Power and Unfold the Future.
So, I'm getting ready to review Flower Power this week and needed to do something for the songs that tend to blur together for me. What I did was took Flower Power's most memorable tracks (to me at least) and removed them from the playlist. This left me with an album of: Deaf, Numb and Blind Corruption Power of Kindness Psychedelic Postcard Hudson River Sirens Call Painter Calling Home Afterlife So far this is turning out to be a pretty good album, it's kind of like finding a new FK album. I think I'll try a similar experiment with Unfold the Future next and see what that does for me. With that being said, which albums are too long in your mind? If you're willing, try my experiment and let us know what kind of results you get. |
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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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Good to hear man, this is where you belong
![]() And I'm really sad about your Flower King album harassment. I think it's rediculous ! I will send you a copy if this continues. I mean I want TFK to receive the full price for their albums but they should take care of good suppliers.
And if they don't we'll take matters in our own hands, don't we ?
We can't have that one of the biggest fans simply will have to live without one of their best albums. That's intolerable !!!!!
So you give the signal if you had enough of this situation. And we'll arrange something. Ok ?
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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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I have every confidence too, Mike. So far they haven't really disappointed me even once with an album. Of course there are the occasional sloppy songs on their albums but that's always compensated with superb epics imo.
The only disappointing album by Roine & Co I ever heard was Hydrophonia by him solo (though not everyone agrees with me there) and of course Agents of Mercy. All the other output is simply great ! Edited by progrules - July 20 2009 at 01:44 |
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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Well, I don't think the hiatus was for financial reasons, only that that might prolong it. As much as I dislike the hiatus, I think it will be good for Roine and the band, allowing them to come back with new focus, new ideas, new energy, etc. Ideally, anyway. I always used to worry that they were going to put out a bad album, go the way of the older prog bands and either disband, write more mainstream material, or just loose their magic. I stopped worrying about that a few albums ago ![]() |
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Roland113 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 30 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Status: Offline Points: 3843 |
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Sorry I haven't posted here lately, been rather busy on a few fronts.
Just in case Roine and the gang is reading this, I'd totally pre-order any Flower Kings album if it would help the band out. It would be a shame for such a wonderful band to simply fade away due to a financial crisis. I will say this, the recession will end at some point and even if SPV / Inside Out folds, I'm certain that another label will resurface eventually to sign some of the Inside Out bands. Things are tough world wide, of that there is no doubt. If the band is on hiatus only because of financial issues, then they will be back once the economy can support them. |
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Hi Henk, how's it going buddy? Amazon now tell me they can't get The Flower King ![]() I'm loving Garden Of Dreams. After 5 listens I have to say this is simply a work of genius. I feel like I know it completely already, so I am quite proud of myself. It probably falls in about 5 or 6 in my all-time TFK list now. I think cd2 is less good, but still some great tracks especially Deaf Numb & Blind and Power Of Kindness. Incidentally Henk, thanks for posting on the IQ thread, I have now replied. Don't worry, I'll be spending most of my time "at home" here on the TFK thread.
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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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Hey Roj, what's up with The Flower King ?? Still not arrived ? I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you all these days now but .... You know what ? I would sue them with so much delay ! This must be unbearable for you. Good luck my friend. (fortunately you have Flower Power to enjoy, is it still growing on you ?)
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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Yeah Roj, I think the TA thing is going to boost all the members bank accounts hopefully. I'll certainly be buying it
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I really hope it's not going to be the end of TFK, that would be unfair. If Roine can afford to make albums with Agents Of Mercy, surely TFK won't be a problem?
I'm sure that if they funded a new TFK album by pre-orders they'd be inundated with orders. I'm sure everyone on this thread would be ordering straightaway. Anyway, on an optimistic note I'm sure the new Transatlantic album (and tour, live album
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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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Thanks for this important info Mike and it's very sad indeed. Damned crisis ! I think I will pre order Tomas' album. Maybe it helps.
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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Sadly, I've heard no word. There are rumors that is it more than just a sabbatical.....that Roine simply can't afford to keep the band together (he pays all the other members for the work). Also, a new FK album would most likely have to be self - released, as it seems Inside Out is not able to support most (or maybe any) of it's bands with it's parent company in bankruptcy.
However, Roine has said nothing along those lines, and hopefully the new TA album will fill his coffers again enough to put out a new FK album. In any case, it isn't going to be soon I'm afraid. Still, I am looking forward to the new Tomas Bodin album which he has to release on his own, solely from pre-orders..........so if he doesn't get enough of those, the album will not be released. Difficult times for us fans for sure. |
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I noticed yours too, Mike. You're right our reviews aren't really similar but one thing we agree about: the second song ofthe album is by far the weakest. This is really very poor. Fortunately after this one the album gets stronger and stronger. But never excellent imo.
But the main reason I kept things a bit negative was because of my last statement: I want TFK back.
Do you know when they're supposed to be back ? (preferably with their new album !)
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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Saw your review of Agents Henk and had to add my own. Even though we gave the same rating, mine was a bit more positive than yours. But on the whole, I agree with your sentiments. Not one of Roine's stronger projects. Though I still do enjoy about half the songs quite a bit. I think it's kind of a stripped down prog, which isn't surprising since it was supposed to be an acoustic folk type project originally.
By they way, I'm looking forward to Roine and Jonas' fusion project which is nearing completion as I understand it. Edited by infandous - July 14 2009 at 13:55 |
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I wonder why they are in neo prog. They are either symphonic or eclectic, but not neo... |
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