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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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Ok, didn't even realize Dissonata was a stream track. But maybe you're right. After listening to all 3 songs Dissonata is right in between World of Adventures and Retropolis (the songs, that is).
Fingers crossed you'll get it soon ! I guarentee a lot of fun.
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Henk, you know my collection almost as well as me!!! I actually ordered The Flower King a month ago, but I'm still waiting on it. It does appear a little tough to get hold of at the moment.
So as it is still not here it will be my final TFK acquisition, but at least it looks like I may have saved one of the very best until last! The only track I know is the free stream track here on PA. That is superb and reminds me of World Of Adventures. That's good news for me as it's one of my TFK faves. I just love that classic early TFK sound. In order I rate the albums thus:
1. Stardust We Are
2. Space Revolver
3. World Of Adventures
4. Paradox Hotel (without Monsters & Men it would be lower
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6. Retropolis
7. Unfold The Future
8. Sum Of No Evil
9. Rainmaker
At present I can't put in Flower Power anywhere as I don't know it well enough. As a guess I reckon it might fit in at number 4. Edited by Roj M30 - June 12 2009 at 07:46 |
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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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Did I get it right that the only great "TFK" album you're still missing is the Flower King by Roine solo ?
Because if it is: get it as soon as you can !! It's even better than all TFK releases (as far as I'm concerned).
I will give you an impression: Humanizzimo is one of the best things they EVER did, same quality as the Stardust we are track. So 5+*. Second best is Dissonata, a semi instrumental resembling Retropolis and I think it's even a bit better. 5*. Third is Magic Circus of Zeb, another one with great guitar by Roine. 4,5*.
Pilgrims Inn is the next jewel scoring 4,5*. The title track is loved by many but personally I believe it's too cheesy. Only 3,25* for me. The remaining tracks (Sounds of Violence, Scanning the Green House and Close your Eyes) are more or less fillers that almost spoiled the masterpiece status for me but fortunately it just didn't. I gave it 5 stars and rank it amongst the 10-15 best albums ever made.
Need more encouragement ?
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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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^ He Roger. I just dropped your name in the thread about IQ and TFK. It's in Prog music Lounge and is started by Progrocker2244 (Jeff). Maybe you should have a look there ?
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I agree it will take several listens, no doubt about that. The overall first impression was very favourable though. I'll try and listen to it again in the next few days. Several parts made me sit up and think "Wow! That's good!" No surprise there though, it's TFK and that's what we expect!
As to the rest of the album, Deaf Numb And Blind sounded absolutely awesome on first hearing. I just love these guys.
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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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I agree with Roland. I think it's already very surprising you have a sort of judgement about the GoD track(s)
but it's almost impossible to judge it after one listening session. Good luck with it.
And indeed the Driver's Seat epic is tremendous. I can't get enough of it, same as Love Supreme. That's indeed why I still love that album.
Yesterday I heard Road to Sanctuary on morow.com by the way and it also sounded absolutely awesome again. It's amazing how TFK gets to you time and time again. Brilliant stuff !!
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Roland113 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 30 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Status: Offline Points: 3843 |
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^ Roj,
Glad you're enjoying Flower Power, The Garden did take a few listens before I really appreciated it, after about ten or fifteen I really started to enjoy it. Regarding Adam and Eve, even though it's one of the lower rated CD's by them, it's still a Flower King's CD and better than most of the other music that's out there. Glad you're enjoying it. |
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Roj ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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Well guys, I've finally got round to listening to Garden Of Dreams. So it seems to be more a collection of songs , some joined some not, rather than an epic as such. Of course it's virtually impossible to judge on one listen, but like all TFK it made a very good impression. I love the classic early TFK feel it has. Plus it's very easy to hear that Tomas has a strong influence on this. I get the feeling it will take a little time but it will end up as one of my top-rated TFK pieces. I'll try and listen to the rest of the album tonight.
I've now heard Adam & Eve 3 times fully, and what a pleasant surprise that is ![]() Edited by Roj M30 - June 09 2009 at 02:59 |
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i'am puzzled with this fact also. none of their albums has 4 or above, its sad. and what a great labums TFK has , but no love for TFK in PA
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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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I know what you mean here. I have this album but funny enough I have less trouble with these vocals compared to Kaipa's. Aleena's vocals and one of the guys' (Lundin or Lundstrom) are that annoying to me that I can't appreciate the instrumental parts anymore. Probably it works totally different on you, well these things are always very personal.
I don't want to sound ungrateful because I really appreciate your offer but thanks. Maybe if I run into it one day when it's for sale over here I will give the album a try but for the moment I pass. Thanks, mate.
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I just read it Roj. It's great !! I read mine afterwards and I have to say: this is one of those short foolish reviews of mine from 2007. Yours is much better. But hey, it's your avatar, isn't it. Emotionally the review reminds me of my effort on Who's the Boss. It's simply what happens if an album has a tremendous impact on you. You can't help writing with your heart.
And it's sad that fools like Sean Trane and Zowieziggy (and Trotz) had to give their poor opinions about this album otherwise it would have had an average way above 4.00 like some TFK album should have by now. I mean, isn't it a shame that none of their studio albums is above this magical number ? I hate it !!
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Roj ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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You know I was only joking Henk!!
Well, I got my backside into gear and posted a review of Space Revolver this morning. Now let's think. I wonder how many stars I gave it...... ![]() Edited by Roj M30 - June 05 2009 at 03:13 |
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Hang on, let me just check........
Yeah, someone a few posts ago said:
"Regarding Kaipa, I've got a few albums but the one I would recommend to ALL of you here is "Keyholder".
It is a truly stunning piece of work and one of my top 10 albums from the last 15 years or so. Seriously - all TFK fans will love Keyholder!!"
I normally am bugged by over-histrionic vocals. For example, I can't listen "I Am" by Tomas Bodin because of the vocals.
This has never been a problem for me with "Keyholder" maybe because the music is so extraordinarily good. There's lots of playing on the album with amazing instrumental sections and the vocals fit the dramatic music for me.
I have got the 2 albums either side of Keyholder but never listen to them
That's up to you. It's like 2 different bands.
I've got a couple of the 70s albums and they are exactly what you'd imagine :- not-quite-as-good-as-Genesis-or-Camel-mid-70s-prog.
Tell you what, pm me your address and I'll send you a copy of Keyholder.
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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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Ok, that's very interesting. And in a way it proves my point that writing a review is considered a serious effort by many. Nothing wrong with it and maybe it's me who is thinking too lightly about it. But if I would put more pressure upon myself I wouldn't write any reviews anymore probably.
By the way, the reviews most of you guys do every once in a while are good enough aren't they ?
What do you think of your own reviews ?
Good luck with the novel, Roland !
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I should do more reviews, I look at a review as an opportunity to write, a way to practice my 'art' so to speak. Most of the time, when I sit down and the juices are flowing enough, rather than write a review, I focus the energy on the Sci-Fi novel that I work on in my spare time.
It takes a concerted effort for me to write a review, and sadly, I'm usually not focused enough or focused on something else. |
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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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Just checked the line up on Keyholder and it appears it's the same line up as on Mindrev. Nov, are you sure this is a great album ? Are you not bugged by their vocals like The Captain and me ?
Maybe I should go for one of their seventies albums ?
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Eh ... well ...just a bit in between and so.
I remember I did my first 100 reviews in 2007 between 7.15 and 8.30 each morning (usually three or four a day) at my work because at that time I had a slow computer and then posting a review is not really a good idea. If I look back now at those reviews they are short and quite poor really with the exception of a few. Not that they are so great right now but slightly improved I would say.
Anyway after these first 100 in 3 months the admin team was apparently so impressed with the quantity they wanted to promote me. I tried to prevent them from making a mistake but they insisted
![]() Besides this all I feel some people (don't know about you guys on this thread) are making to big a deal out of doing a review. I mean, ok, you have to give it your best shot but sometimes I get the feeling some people think it's the end of the world if their review isn't good enough. Well, I can tell, most of my reviews aren't good enough if you compare them to professional reviews. But that's not what we are doing on this site. We're just a bunch of amateurs who are doing the best we can. And that's all there is to it.
Just do your review in a relaxed way without pressure and you will just have fun as it should.
Just my thoughts about it.
Ok in the same time I did this post I could have done a review as well. Thanks Roger !!
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This is more or less what I was trying to say when I accused the vocals. Instrumentally the album is not that bad and the epic has terrific moments but the vocals just ruin it completely. The girl has a voice you can find anywhere on the streets so to speak (she looks ok by the way but that's irrelevant here
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Actually that's the sort of answer I was looking for. Thanks. mate ! The only other thing I knew of Kaipa besides Mindrevolutions is the stream song Se var Morgon gry which is a nice almost funny song if you link it to Roine but probably he wasn't yet around that band at that point (just checked it: he WAS !).
Guys, check out this stream song on PA. You won't believe this. Roine was already on guitar back in '75 !
But I will certainly check out Keyholder one day. I'd be a fool if I didn't if I can believe the above comment !
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Regarding Kaipa, I've got a few albums but the one I would recommend to ALL of you here is "Keyholder". It is a truly stunning piece of work and one of my top 10 albums from the last 15 years or so. Seriously - all TFK fans will love Keyholder!! |
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