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Posted: March 18 2012 at 10:12
Since Steve Howe isn't on the list, I'll go with Fripp. (Pretty much just a coinflip between Fripp and Gilmour, though, and Hackett's not far behind, either.)
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Posted: March 18 2012 at 11:30
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Hercules wrote:
The Night Watch is almost a great song, almost ruined by a terrible piece of guitar playing. If that's your idea of good, I'd hate to hear bad.
Please post a link to something special by Fripp - I've never heard anything that impresses me at all.
You know, I would, but I know that my most favorite songs and solos, KC stuff in particular, usually get kissed off by a gynormous number of people. If you begged for an answer, then:
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Posted: March 18 2012 at 11:37
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Hercules wrote:
The Night Watch is almost a great song, almost ruined by a terrible piece of guitar playing. If that's your idea of good, I'd hate to hear bad.
Please post a link to something special by Fripp - I've never heard anything that impresses me at all.
You know, I would, but I know that my most favorite songs and solos, KC stuff in particular, usually get kissed off by a gynormous number of people. If you begged for an answer, then:
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Posted: March 18 2012 at 12:00
Hercules wrote:
Horizons wrote:
It's amazing how different tastes can polarize people.
I'm with friso and Evolver - i don't see the massive attraction to Hackett for best guitarist, let alone most technical.
When someone like Paco Da Lucia describes someone's technique as "outstanding" (admittedly, he was talking about Hackett's classical playing on Metamorpheus), I really don't think you or I are qualified to argue, do you?
Different people have different criteria of ranking different guitarists (me personally, I don't pay attention to diversity as much as to power), so define "qualification". And we are all entitled to our own opinion because no one can stop the whole world from arguing, right?
BTW, I've never seen Steve use that banjo picking technique Fripp heavily implemented , ... although Steve has his own chops .
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Posted: March 18 2012 at 12:56
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Dave Bainbridge
But from the list, Steve Hackett, though I think it's a shame Howe didn't make it. Hackett, though, is one of the most tasteful guitar players I've ever heard (at least in his Genesis output)
Noted. I'll check him out.
Steve Hackett, Steve Howe, or Dave Bainbridge?
I'm checking out Bainbridge ("Veil of Gossamer") and thinking "Maybe you are just tired of the mentioning of Fripp and Gilmour?"
Not impressed?
In all seriousness, I don't think I'd take him over any of these guys, necessarily. But I think he's on that level, for the uber-melodic, emotional, and distinctive style of his playing. Have you gotten to "The Everlasting Hills, Part 1" yet? If that doesn't make a believer out of you, nothing else will.
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Posted: March 18 2012 at 13:39
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
Jimi without a second of a doubt. No matter what the others sound like, or what the music they play sounds like - I am pretty sure that he could've played their parts better, more convincingly,more elaborately, complexely you name it. Oh and this is coming from the biggest Gilmour and Fripp fan north of Berlin and Djarkata, I am just trying to be objective here... For people who remain unimpressed by say Machine Gun, then do yourself a favour and check out Pali Gap.
Thanks for the reference, Guldbamsen. I will give it as many listens as it needs, but so far it's a no-go. The technique is very impressive, no doubt. No one could beat him in such innovations. But as far as I can see, the guy doesn't take time on melody alone; I don't hear any hooks. It looks like his improvisational style is marked by the lack of repetition of musical ideas.
*shrugs*
Then you are with the minority on this lonely, little island known as Progarchives, friend. No melody? Really? Here's a few songs for your education:
Remember, this is in 1967, 68 and 69. There is absolutely nothing comparable in that era to the ability, harmonics, soul and syncopation evinced herein. Not Fripp, Page or Clapton. I think perhaps Zappa and Beck came closest during that time. Even so, the gulf that separates them is wide.
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Posted: March 18 2012 at 22:25
The Dark Elf wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
Jimi without a second of a doubt. No matter what the others sound like, or what the music they play sounds like - I am pretty sure that he could've played their parts better, more convincingly,more elaborately, complexely you name it. Oh and this is coming from the biggest Gilmour and Fripp fan north of Berlin and Djarkata, I am just trying to be objective here... For people who remain unimpressed by say Machine Gun, then do yourself a favour and check out Pali Gap.
Thanks for the reference, Guldbamsen. I will give it as many listens as it needs, but so far it's a no-go. The technique is very impressive, no doubt. No one could beat him in such innovations. But as far as I can see, the guy doesn't take time on melody alone; I don't hear any hooks. It looks like his improvisational style is marked by the lack of repetition of musical ideas.
*shrugs*
Remember, this is in 1967, 68 and 69. There is absolutely nothing comparable in that era to the ability, harmonics, soul and syncopation evinced herein. Not Fripp, Page or Clapton. I think perhaps Zappa and Beck came closest during that time. Even so, the gulf that separates them is wide.
Thanks for the videos, The Dark Elf, I will give them as many listens as they need. I've heard 4 of the 6 songs that you've presented several times, 'Burning ... ' I've heard only once, and 'Drifting' ... I've never heard that one. I guess it's that I like a guitar style that is deeply rooted in folk, not blues, and is repetitive to some extent. Seems like Jimi to rock is what the 3 B's are to classical music: he does not repeat a lot of his melodies.
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Posted: March 18 2012 at 22:33
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Dave Bainbridge
But from the list, Steve Hackett, though I think it's a shame Howe didn't make it. Hackett, though, is one of the most tasteful guitar players I've ever heard (at least in his Genesis output)
Noted. I'll check him out.
Steve Hackett, Steve Howe, or Dave Bainbridge?
I'm checking out Bainbridge ("Veil of Gossamer") and thinking "Maybe you are just tired of the mentioning of Fripp and Gilmour?"
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Posted: March 19 2012 at 04:56
Because ofa current tie,I'm waitingfor someone tobreakthis one.Therefore I didn't conclude this poll yet.
A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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Posted: March 19 2012 at 13:09
OK, the tie was broken. As I've promised, I closed this poll. The order is following:
1. Steve Hackett 24 votes
2. Robert Fripp 23 votes
3. Jimi Hendrix 16 votes
4. David Gilmour 15 votes
Thank you for your attention!
A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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Posted: March 19 2012 at 13:17
Yeah, this timeyou canstillwriteyour posts,buttakea results thatI mentionedabove,as final.
Edited by Gandalff - March 20 2012 at 04:50
A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
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Posted: March 19 2012 at 21:13
Snow Dog wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Hercules wrote:
The Night Watch is almost a great song, almost ruined by a terrible piece of guitar playing. If that's your idea of good, I'd hate to hear bad.
Please post a link to something special by Fripp - I've never heard anything that impresses me at all.
You know, I would, but I know that my most favorite songs and solos, KC stuff in particular, usually get kissed off by a gynormous number of people. If you begged for an answer, then:
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