Phil Collins: A Nasty Man?

A couple of years ago, when I was not into prog, I enjoyed the mood and catchy feeling of an unmistakingly sound of a man's voice: Phil Collins. Ok, he was doing pop, I don't like pop, but hell, his voice still sounds good. I did not matter and continued living.

Then, years later, as I explored into the vast and mysterious lands of progressive music, somehow I noticed a name in a respected and legendary prog band named Genesis: a name of a drummer, Phil Collins. Wait a minute. Do you mean the SAME Phil Collins? The one that sings pop music? How can this be? This is awesome! Then, the same voice I like is in a sound I like. Nice!

But later, as I entered this site months ago, I realised almost every one in the forum hated a man in the name of prog: Phil Collins. Why? Why, I thought. Because he shifted styles? He destroyed the band? He lost his hair? Why?

Present Day: I still don't know why everyone in the prog scene hates this poor man. Of course, once I heard Gabriel's voice I realised Collin's one was not as original as I thought, but still...does he deserves dying? Is this hate unavoidable? I just wondered if you guys could share your feelings towards this judas guy, or so I imagine, so I can understand a little bit about this situation.

Because he shifted styles? He destroyed the band? He lost his hair? Why?...   ... that was funny

The reason why is probably because Phil is out spoken and has made many negative remarks about prog that the prog world wasn`t so thrilled about, we acknowledge Phil is a gifted drummer and has a decent singing voice but he needed to learn to shut his trap.

I don't know about Phil Collins....but I hear Robert Fripp is a real jerk. Not busting the guy, I actually have a lot of respect for him, I'm just saying what I heard.  

Can anyone confirm this?

Oh and back to Phil Collins, yea I don't know his personality but he's a pretty awesome drummer, so I can respect him for that, even if he's bald.

It was the same thing for me when i satarted lisen to prog and heard about Genesis, Phil collins: drums? that phil collins who sings pop? in a prog band? Then i got this idea that Genesis was some pop/prog band and i refused to give em a shans i started to lisen to pink floyd and yes then king crimson but Genesis never! no pop/prog or prog light for me, so i dident start lisen to them before i came here and saw how high regarded they where here. Still dont think theyer the greates prog band but no doubt a fantastic band, and much beter then i ever tought they whuld be.

And no i dont hate him at all, he seems to be a very nice guy.