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erik neuteboom 
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 17:48 |
Hello fellow Italian progheads.
This evening I was listening to Le Orme their wonderful album Felona E Sorona, for the perhaps 101st time I was blown away by the closing section featuring the ominous Hammond organ runs, the propulsive rhythm-section and the sensational Minimoog flights, culminating in a bombastic and very compelling progrock experience. Then I wondered or this is my ultimate Seventies Italian Prog moment? Or perhaps the closing section of Museo Rosenbach during the closing section of Zarathustra delivering a cascade of bombastic, Mellotron drenched eruptions? Or perhaps the middle section of Banco their composition R.P.I. with the beautiful, very sensitive piano play and the moving, very dramatic vocals by Francesco Di Giacomo, also culminating in just another great Seventies Italian Prog moment with the perfect balance between emotion and skills  ?
OK, finally I choose for ..... Museo Rosenbach, the decisive factor became the mindblowing appearance of the unsurpassed Mellotron  !
Now I am curious to your ultimate Seventies Italian Prog moment
and don't hesitate to describe your opinions and emotions 
Edited by erik neuteboom - June 26 2007 at 18:40
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 18:40 |
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Probably, because are the first songs of the Italian Prog that I've listen:
Le Orme :
Collage (4:42)
Era inverno (5:00)
Cemento armato (8:08)
Sguardo verso il cielo (4:12)
Una dolcezza nuova (5:28)
Gioco di bimba (2:54)
Figure di cartone (3:48)
Aspettando l'alba (4:43)
PFM:
Impressioni di Settembre (5:44)
E' Festa (4:52)
Dove... Quando... (Parte I) (4:08)
Dove... Quando... (Parte II) (6:00)
La Carrozza di Hans (6:46)
Celebration (3:50)
L'Isola di Niente (10:42)
Dolcissima Maria (4:01)
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso:
1. In Volo (2:13)
2. R.I.P. (Requiescant In Pace) (6:40)
3. Passaggio (1:19)
4. Metamorfosi (10:52)
5. Il Giardino Del Mago (18:26)
- a. ... Passo Dopo Passo ...
- b. ... Chi Ride E Chi Geme ...
- c. ... Coi Capelli Sciolti Al Vento ...
- d. Compenetrazione
6. Traccia (2:10)
Rovescio Della Medaglia:
1. Il Nulla (4:56)
2. La Creazione (5:17)
3. L'Ammonimento (5:19)
4. Sodoma E Gomorra (4:51)
5. Il Giudizio (10:15)
6. Il Diluvio (2:14)
1. Absent for this consumend World (1:05)
2. Ora non ricordo piu (1:47)
3. Il suono del silenzio (5:16)
4. Mi sono svegliato e..ho chiuso gli occhi (4:19)
5. Lei sei tu: Lei (2:04)
6. La mia musica (4:10)
7. Johann (1:23)
8. Scotland Machine (3:06)
9. Cella 503 (3:18)
10. Contaminazione 1760 (1:04)
11. Alzo un muro elettrico (2:55)
12. Sweet Suite (2:17)
13. La grande fuga (3:42)
Biglietto Per L'Inferno:
1. Ansia (4:16)
2. Confessione (6:32)
3. Una Strana Regina (6:12)
4. Il Nevare (4:37)
5. L'Amico Suicida (13:20)
6. Confessione (strumentale) (3:32)
Franco Battiato:
1. Summer On A Solitary Beach
2. Bandiera Bianca
3. Gli Uccelli
4. Cuccurucucu
5. Segnali Di Vita
6. Centro Di Gravità Permanente
7. Sentimento Nuevo
The Trip:
1. Rhapsodia (20:02)
2. Formula Nova (4:53)
3. De Sensibus (4:12)
4. Corale (5:28)
5. Ad Libitum (4:29)
Formula 3:
1. Dies irae (7:39)
2. Non è Francesca (3:37)
3. Perché… Perché ti amo (6:07)
4. Questo folle sentimento (introduzione) (1:05)
5. Questo folle sentimento (seconda parte) (2:19)
6. Walk Away Renee (4:30)
7. Se non è amore cos’è (5:11)
8. Sole giallo, sole nero (7:10)
Delirium:
Favola o storia del Lago di Kriss (Libertà) (4:22)
Jesahel (4:05) (Performed by Ivano Fosati & Alberto Radius and his TV orchestra in "Una Rotonda Sul Mare 2" Italian Commercial TV early 90's!!!)
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 18:49 |
E tutto comincio con ...........Mandrakeroot
Edited by erik neuteboom - June 26 2007 at 18:50
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 19:41 |
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PROVA prova pensare un peu diversi !! ^^
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 23:28 |
 erik neuteboom wrote:
Hello fellow Italian progheads.
This evening I was listening to Le Orme their wonderful album Felona E Sorona, for the perhaps 101st time I was blown away by the closing section featuring the ominous Hammond organ runs, the propulsive rhythm-section and the sensational Minimoog flights, culminating in a bombastic and very compelling progrock experience. Then I wondered or this is my ultimate Seventies Italian Prog moment? Or perhaps the closing section of Museo Rosenbach during the closing section of Zarathustra delivering a cascade of bombastic, Mellotron drenched eruptions? Or perhaps the middle section of Banco their composition R.P.I. with the beautiful, very sensitive piano play and the moving, very dramatic vocals by Francesco Di Giacomo, also culminating in just another great Seventies Italian Prog moment with the perfect balance between emotion and skills ?
OK, finally I choose for ..... Museo Rosenbach, the decisive factor became the mindblowing appearance of the unsurpassed Mellotron !
Now I am curious to your ultimate Seventies Italian Prog moment
and don't hesitate to describe your opinions and emotions
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YES, YES, YES!!
i was just listening to Le Orme on the ride home from work the other day and thought the exact same about this album. it is SOOOOOOO epic ... it's definitely up there for greatest italian prog album (or greatest end to a prog album anyway!)
zara thrusta on the other hand doesn't really do it for me. don't get me wrong it's great 'n all but it aint no Felona 
keep up the ital-prog appreciation people!
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if left is wrong i don't wanna be right... 
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 02:48 |
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my ultimate 70's prog moment....easy...
the section of Balletto di Bronzo's Introduzione where the dramatic buildup of the organ and guitar climaxes into that majestic mellotron.... wow... still a hair raising musical moment after hundreds of listens.
nice topic Erik.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 06:09 |
What a pity that the album Ys is so complex, I have done my best to get into it, some parts are awesome (indeed, like Introduzione) but it fails to carry me away, it doesn't flow for me 
About Museo Rosenbach their album Zarathustra, it seems to evoke mixed opinions, not everybody get goose bumps like me while listening to those mindblowing Mellotron drenched eruptions
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 06:41 |
My ultimate prog rock moment with...Le Orme was the last march during Le Orme live show!
Erik, believe me, when they played the closer part of Felona e Sorona (Ritornoo al Nulla) I was completely blown away...majestic and powerful! even better than the album version!
My ultimate moment from a studio album:
probably in the first part of the second track of Sun Supreme by Ibis when the delicate acoustic atmosphere of the opener suddenly erupts in magnificient strong and dynamic drumming and fiery electric guitar mixed with exciting keyboards' run. Wonderful! 
Then also: the opener of Celestion by Riccardo Zappa titled "Frammenti". When his wonderful acoustic ovation guitar seems to scream like the bagpipes!!! Impressive. Erik, you must try this one!
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:00 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
What a pity that the album Ys is so complex, I have done my best to get into it, some parts are awesome (indeed, like Introduzione) but it fails to carry me away, it doesn't flow for me
About Museo Rosenbach their album Zarathustra, it seems to evoke mixed opinions, not everybody get goose bumps like me while listening to those mindblowing Mellotron drenched eruptions |
I know Erik...Ys can be a bit overwhelming.. not just the complexity.. up through Epilogo and the very extended atmospheric section anchored by that 7 note bass pattern (didn't you love how Ars Nova NAILED that track on that Keyboard album you recommended to me) it is like being beat over the head continuously with a 2x4. Not only is it a dark..complex album.. it is unrelentling aggressive and harsh. I love it.... but it's not for everyone. I'm with you as well on Zarathrustra.... those Mellotron eruptions are just god sent. They do bring out the goose bumps indeed hahha.
Edited by micky - June 27 2007 at 08:02
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:05 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
My ultimate prog rock moment with...Le Orme was the last march during Le Orme live show!
Erik, believe me, when they played the closer part of Felona e Sorona (Ritornoo al Nulla) I was completely blown away...majestic and powerful! even better than the album version!
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I couldn't agree more...though I was in estacy when they ran through side 1 of Uomo di Pezza... I was completely blown away with Ritornoo al Nulla.
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:32 |
Mandrakeroot wrote:
Probably, because are the first songs of the Italian Prog that I've listen:
Le Orme :
Collage (4:42)
Era inverno (5:00)
Cemento armato (8:08)
Sguardo verso il cielo (4:12)
Una dolcezza nuova (5:28)
Gioco di bimba (2:54)
Figure di cartone (3:48)
Aspettando l'alba (4:43)
PFM:
Impressioni di Settembre (5:44)
E' Festa (4:52)
Dove... Quando... (Parte I) (4:08)
Dove... Quando... (Parte II) (6:00)
La Carrozza di Hans (6:46)
Celebration (3:50)
L'Isola di Niente (10:42)
Dolcissima Maria (4:01)
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso:
1. In Volo (2:13)
2. R.I.P. (Requiescant In Pace) (6:40)
3. Passaggio (1:19)
4. Metamorfosi (10:52)
5. Il Giardino Del Mago (18:26)
- a. ... Passo Dopo Passo ...
- b. ... Chi Ride E Chi Geme ...
- c. ... Coi Capelli Sciolti Al Vento ...
- d. Compenetrazione
6. Traccia (2:10)
Rovescio Della Medaglia:
1. Il Nulla (4:56)
2. La Creazione (5:17)
3. L'Ammonimento (5:19)
4. Sodoma E Gomorra (4:51)
5. Il Giudizio (10:15)
6. Il Diluvio (2:14)
1. Absent for this consumend World (1:05)
2. Ora non ricordo piu (1:47)
3. Il suono del silenzio (5:16)
4. Mi sono svegliato e..ho chiuso gli occhi (4:19)
5. Lei sei tu: Lei (2:04)
6. La mia musica (4:10)
7. Johann (1:23)
8. Scotland Machine (3:06)
9. Cella 503 (3:18)
10. Contaminazione 1760 (1:04)
11. Alzo un muro elettrico (2:55)
12. Sweet Suite (2:17)
13. La grande fuga (3:42)
Biglietto Per L'Inferno:
1. Ansia (4:16)
2. Confessione (6:32)
3. Una Strana Regina (6:12)
4. Il Nevare (4:37)
5. L'Amico Suicida (13:20)
6. Confessione (strumentale) (3:32)
Franco Battiato:
1. Summer On A Solitary Beach
2. Bandiera Bianca
3. Gli Uccelli
4. Cuccurucucu
5. Segnali Di Vita
6. Centro Di Gravità Permanente
7. Sentimento Nuevo
The Trip:
1. Rhapsodia (20:02)
2. Formula Nova (4:53)
3. De Sensibus (4:12)
4. Corale (5:28)
5. Ad Libitum (4:29)
Formula 3:
1. Dies irae (7:39)
2. Non è Francesca (3:37)
3. Perché… Perché ti amo (6:07)
4. Questo folle sentimento (introduzione) (1:05)
5. Questo folle sentimento (seconda parte) (2:19)
6. Walk Away Renee (4:30)
7. Se non è amore cos’è (5:11)
8. Sole giallo, sole nero (7:10)
Delirium:
Favola o storia del Lago di Kriss (Libertà) (4:22)
Jesahel (4:05) (Performed by Ivano Fosati & Alberto Radius and his TV orchestra in "Una Rotonda Sul Mare 2" Italian Commercial TV early 90's!!!)
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And to think that in this it list I omitted: Formula 3: 1. Nessuno nessuno (11:01) 2. Tu sei bianca, sei rosa, mi perderò (4:16) 3. Vendo casa (2:55) 4. Eppur mi son scordato di te (3:38) 5. Un papavero (4:01) 6. Il vento (4:47) 7. Mi chiamo Antonio tal dei tali e lavoro ai mercati generali (5:51) Perigeo: 1. La Valle dei Templi (6:12) 2. Un Cerchio Giallo (4:28) 3. (In)vino Veritas (6:45) 4. Take Off (3:37) 5. Nadir (3:45) 6. 36° Parallelo (9:44) Biglietto per l'inferno (P.s.: in this list because recorded in 70's!!!): 1. Il Tempo Della Semina (10:13) 2. Mente Sola - Mente (2:55) 3. Viva Lotta Pensa (3:15) 4. L'arte Sublime Di Un Giusto Regnare (3:17) 5. Solo Ma Vivo (6:27) 6. La Canzone Del Padre (9:34) Osanna: 1. Introduzione (3:26) 2. L'uomo (3:34) 3. Mirror Train (4:56) 4. Non sei vissuto mai (6:00) 5. Vado verso una meta (3:15) 6. In un vecchio cieco (3:31) 7. L'amore vincerà di nuovo (6:13) 8. Everybody's Gonna See You Die (3:04) 9. Lady Power (3:56) I think that these are my absolute for always Seventies Italian Prog moments!!!
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:36 |
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...And still "La Fabbricante D'Angeli" by Le Orme can move me to tears...
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:42 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
E tutto comincio con ...........Mandrakeroot |
E tutto comincio con ........... Alberto Radius and Formula 3 in a show in a Italian commercial TV in early 90's (where with its TV orchestra and the Formula 3 played "Non è Francesca") and Ivano Fossati's solo version of "Jesahel"!!! 
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:52 |
I cannot narrow this down to one. So here are three
Firstly: L'evikuzione, from Darwin! The first ever italian prog song I was to hear. I brought the album on my trip to Italy. The whole song still captivates me like it did the first time.
Secondly: I will reiterate micky's post.
micky wrote:
my ultimate 70's prog moment....easy...the section of Balletto di Bronzo's Introduzione where the dramatic buildup of the organ and guitar climaxes into that majestic mellotron.... wow... still a hair raising musical moment after hundreds of listens.nice topic Erik.
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And Third: Picchio dal Pozzo - Seppia. Two section of this song really touch me personally. In the frist section which pinnacles drench in spacy atmospheres, compliment by high pitched vocals. Then in the concluding section, with the italian [child?] speaking a short monolog.
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 08:54 |
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Yes, "Sepia" is really wonderful.
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 09:53 |
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Andrea Cortese wrote:
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My ultimate prog rock moment with...Le Orme was the last march during Le Orme live show!"
I answer:
" Yes, it's true. Bu probably the next It will be july 25 to Pordenone... Summer garden Fair... Franco Battiato in concert!!!"
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 10:08 |
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I'd have to say the entire Darwin album by Banco. When I first heard this release I was forever to be hooked on Italian prog. Between Di Giacomo's operatic vocals and the Nocenzi brothers keyboards I was blown away. Nothing beats the Italians sense of melody.
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 11:25 |
Mandy writes:
" Yes, it's true. Bu probably the next It will be july 25 to Pordenone... Summer garden Fair... Franco Battiato in concert!!!"
micky writes:
 I know, that's my birthday too.... and three days later he's in Rome..... good thing I have a damn good reason for missing those shows hahhhaha.
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 11:34 |
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For me it's very easy: Banco live at Nearfest in 2001. Most incredible prog concert I've ever seen in my life. Incredible emotion, skill, and material. Of course, it was also the first time I ever heard any Italian prog. But Banco is still my favorite. Their first 3 albums are fantastic.
Another is PFM, with the first few albums being great, and they also had a wonderful like show at the Progressive Rock Showcase (Friday night before Nearfest) in 2005.
But I also like just about everything else that others have commented on here (Ys is a fantastic, wonderful album.......very much the darker side of Italian prog).
On a more recent note, La Maschera Di Cera put on an inspiring performance at Nearfest on Sunday (they performed the entire LuxAde album). It was nice to see so many people coming up to them the rest of the day and praising their performance. Really nice bunch of guys also.
(I know, not 70's, but since we're talking Italian prog and the performance is still fresh in my mind, I had to bring it up)
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 27 2007 at 12:20 |
micky wrote:
Mandy writes:
" Yes, it's true. Bu probably the next It will be july 25 to Pordenone... Summer garden Fair... Franco Battiato in concert!!!"
micky writes:
I know, that's my birthday too.... and three days later he's in Rome..... good thing I have a damn good reason for missing those shows hahhhaha.
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What it is excellent it is that from the train station of Pordenone to the fair of Pordenone in 5 minute on foot us arrivals very well!!!
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