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happythe
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Topic: Music Appreciation as you get older Posted: February 23 2008 at 10:12 |
Do you think you appreciate music more as you get older? It might make sense to say that you appreciate it on a more personal level as you gain life experience and can relate more to the lyrics. Yet it seems to be teenagers who listen to music most. (Perhaps a prog forum isn't the best place to prove this point, but in general, I mean..) Or is it just that as you get older you are less satisfied with Greenday's tired riffs and turn to the Mahavishnu Orchestra for something more interesting? (ie. you appreciate music the same amount, but your needs/interests change)
Any thoughts?
Edited by happythe - February 23 2008 at 10:12
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happythe
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Posted: February 23 2008 at 10:16 |
Don't know why appreciation has a capital A  just ignore that.
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Posted: February 23 2008 at 10:31 |
I don't know about appreciating it MORE, but I do agree about appreciating it in a different, more mature way. Of course, this is only valid for people who are really into music, and don't only use it as background for their daily activities. My late mother was a big music lover (though not into prog, unfortunately  ), and her appreciation and understanding of various musical forms, which had always been there, grew and became more refined with age. As for myself, I know my tastes have matured too, though not in a really dramatic way. I've always been curious and willing to expand my musical horizons, and since I joined PA this curiosity has steadily grown. However, I have never been the kind of person to turn on the radio and listen to just about anything while working or cooking - I've always been rather demanding and particular as regards music, so I suppose I can say there haven't been any really big changes in my appreciation as I grew older.
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Posted: February 23 2008 at 10:48 |
Great topic...
I believe that as I grow up, I can BETTER appreciate music and also MORE stuff.
Now I can here from prog rock and ethnic to extreme black/death metal without
any problem. Maybe I am growing musically mature, maybe not...
Ghost Rider wrote:
As for myself, I know my tastes have matured too, though not in a really dramatic way. I've always been curious and willing to expand my musical horizons, and since I joined PA this curiosity has steadily grown. However, I have never been the kind of person to turn on the radio and listen to just about anything while working or cooking - I've always been rather demanding and particular as regards music, so I suppose I can say there haven't been any really big changes in my appreciation as I grew older.
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Agreed in a very high extent with Raff on this.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 23 2008 at 15:34 |
Just like Ghost Rider and aapatsos said. I think when you get older you much more possibilite to listen more varied stuff and apreciate classical musical, jazz and others. Although some people can already apreaciate jazz and classical but not like when you get older. And to make no discussion perhaps when you're younger you can hear more type of genres but much 'simple' ones to apreciate, easier to apreciate like pop, new wave, grunge, alt, others. Although I like some bands of those genres.
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Posted: February 23 2008 at 16:23 |
I don't think age brings a better understanding of much, but you do have the experience with which to compare. I think it's more a case of constantly re-assessing music as your temperament changes.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 23 2008 at 16:35 |
laplace wrote:
I don't think age brings a better understanding of much, but you do have the experience with which to compare. I think it's more a case of constantly re-assessing music as your temperament changes.
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Don't really agree with that but well..
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Posted: February 23 2008 at 18:02 |
I've definitely changed as time went on. I started out wanting the heaviest and fastest stuff possible, to a more symphonic/melodic direction, then to artsy and weird, and now to pretty and emotional.
The biggest change would be the appreciation of songwriting compared to long songs or technicality. I get more from a 3-minute song with beautiful melodies and concise songwriting than I ever can with a 10-minute piece filled with technical solos and other "complicated" parts.
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jammun
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Posted: February 23 2008 at 21:42 |
Hmm, I saw the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show, so that should give you an inkling as to my age. Do I appreciate music more or less, now that I'm approaching greybeard status? I still appreciate the great stuff. It's getting harder to find it however. So much of what is done now is just a rehash of the past. Maybe I'm spoiled, having grown up listening to the best, or maybe I'm just an old fart. I try not to be some Frank Sinatra, waiting for that Beatles thing to blow over so we can get back to real music. But I didn't get into Metallica, for instance, until I was probably 45 years old, way beyond the target demographic. I hated them when I first heard them, but another 15 years did wonders for my appreciation of that band.
Sorry, I've just mentioned Beatles, Frank Sinatra, and Metallica on a prog site. To keep it on track, I find nothing interesting about Dream Theater. Give me 15 years and I'll probably get it.
So for me, my tastes are always changing but I'm always searching.
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Posted: February 23 2008 at 21:47 |
I'd say it's more of an evolution, rather than age specific-- I loved Birds of Fire when I was in high school but also Killers, and still love both. Now I tend to listen to other stuff but only cause I've already heard much of a given artist, am still a fan but have moved on.. that's the beauty of progressive music
Edited by Atavachron - February 23 2008 at 21:48
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Posted: February 23 2008 at 22:01 |
Atavachron wrote:
I'd say it's more of an evolution, rather than age specific
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This is definitely the case with me as well.
Not so much age, but a progress, a journey of discovering new music, bands, musicians, compositions, experimentations etc. I still listen and love what I've discovered over 20 years ago (classic prog, metal and some others), and some few others, I don't listen to anymore, but those are few.
With time I learn more and not sure if it's an age thing or not, as I discover and fall in love with more music which some of it is in the vein of things I already know and like and some is new and I get to discover and learn its form. It's a great journey, I tell you!
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Posted: February 23 2008 at 22:02 |
^^ I fully agree here.
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Posted: February 24 2008 at 12:06 |
I agree with everyone who said it's more due to experience than age.
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Posted: February 24 2008 at 13:12 |
Good point. I have appreciated music I thought it wasn't any good before. It always happens to me no idea why.
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everyone
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Posted: February 25 2008 at 00:14 |
To me being exposed to a lot of music, no matter your age, helps you enjoy any type of music. I was exposed to classical, jazz and country music when I was young. I'd turn on a radio on my bed and listen to rock, funk, and anything that I could hear that was anything but the norm. Having an open mind helps. Being older makes you more open minded to new types of music.
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Posted: February 25 2008 at 13:57 |
lets see. i'll list my in chronological order my musical tastes over the years.
age 12-14 classic rock, hard rock, grunge, some metal, pop punk
14-16 classic rock, classical, thrash metal, black metal, power metal, NWOBHM, death metal
16-17 classic metal, thrash metal, progressive metal, some prog, some jam bands
17-18 prog rock (all kinds), classical (again), avant-guard, psychedelic, freaky stuff, trip-hop, some jazz-fusion
18-19 prog rock, jam bands, jazz-fusion, Frank Zappa, jazz, funk
19-20 (present) jazz, free jazz, bebop, modal, jazz-fusion, funk, prog rock, jam bands, ethnic, world music, electronica, classical (yet again)
so i guess by looking at the changes in my musical tastes, i'll have to agree with whoever said it first, that it's more of an evolution more than appreciation. but it is both. i dont, however, listen to much of what i listened to before i was 17 anymore.
Edited by darkshade - February 25 2008 at 13:59
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Posted: February 25 2008 at 14:04 |
chronological order:
0-9 : prog rock, jazz, fusion, classical, few pop.(minded by my parents)
9-11: pop, rap, pop rock, all mainstream music
12-13(now)prog rock, classic rock, few pop, few jazz fusion, few grunge, few alt. music, blues rock, few new wave and very very few metal(I really dislike it)
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Posted: February 25 2008 at 14:14 |
Perhaps it was due to the fact that I was a working musician from the age of 16 but to the circle of friends I circulated in back in my youth music was EVERYTHING. Literally and figuratively. So my thinking is that I could never appreciate it more, no matter how ancient I get. It still is a focus of my life so I can say with confidence maybe as much but never more.
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Posted: February 25 2008 at 14:43 |
I must say we hardly listen to CDs anymore; most of the time it is the radio we are listening to. Which means that we mostly listen to classical, jazz and some ethnic music and very few other things. There are a few exceptions to this, especially Monday to Friday between 3 and 5 pm; due to the nature of the program that is running on our standard channel at that time it can virtually be any kind of music; all you know is that it will relate to some kind of "theme", but what thene that is varies from day to day. One day it can be any music that in a way has to do with noses: Songs about the nose, an aria from the opera "The Nose" (yes, there is an opera of that name by Dmitri Shostakovitch, based on the Gogol play of the same name), music from some obscure African tribe that uses nose flutes or whatever other music that has to do with the nose.
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Posted: February 26 2008 at 20:48 |
I think as I grow older I am less impressed with the novelty of Prog, and I seem to be seeking out more emotionally satisfying music. I grew up on "serious music" so Prog was a diversion into popular music, that thankfully coalesced with my adolescence . I discovered metal and left with a heart for Iron Maiden and Metallica, that I doubt will disappear completely. Along with a few 70's Prog bands that keep getting frequent spins, mainly because of their authenticity. Now though I think I am returning to my roots (Which I never really left), searching for authentic and emotionally satisfying rather than flash. With saying that, Prog is only about 4% of my current collection, it seems it was cool when I was a teenager but as I get older I want something more.
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