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    Posted: February 12 2018 at 03:02
Well, I donīt think would have wanted Zappa to be my father.
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Zappa is like a loving father providing you with the necessities in life, King Crimson is like the weird girlfriend that you love for the weirdness and because she gives amazing sex Embarrassed

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To me this was a big battle between Zappa and Fripp, but Fripp won.
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Zappa as a composer, bandleader, showman and songwriter in a general sense, Fripp as a guitarist.


They where both very "ahead of their time" though, both highly innovative individuals 
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^ Anyway, many of those so called "improvs" I'm not really sure how improvised are, really. On The Great Deceiver set of live shows, they have "different" improvs from different shows (with different names) that are basically the same song (the same one used for tha Ausbury Park improv on USA). Now, King Crimson are very well known for their imrpovs, but I mostly prefer Pink Floyd's improvs, or jamming, from their early years... really improving their rather shorter and tamer studio versions. And there's not really much praise for that aspect of their music.
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Dellinger......yes the 'improvs' are more unstructured'.....but even then I get the feeling he's doing guitar exercises and not playing with emotion and feel...and I might be saying that wrong but some of the leads by Zappa especially on Hot Rats for instance are simply blistering with rock blues and jazz feel.....I never get that same sensation from Fripp.....and KC is probably my favorite prog rock band btw.
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Tough one. I have a hard time choosing a favourite in terms of both guitar-playing and composition. If you put a gun to my head and force me to choose, I go for Zappa composition-wise and Fripp for his guitar wizardry.
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Fripp / Zappa and wild card Adrian Belew. He was good enough for both.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I prefer KC and Fripp's music over Zappa's music over the years  but.....Zappa  can rip off a great rock or fusion lead and Fripp hasn't really done that often....he tends to stay restrained and do structured things.


Fripp only does structured things? Then what's with all those improvs he loves doing live? Though I guess in a way even the way to go into imrov territory is rather structured... but still by it's very definition improvs must have spontaneous musical creation, and that can't be fully structured.
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Steve Vai himself giving Uncle Frank high praise.
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I'm just trying to get past "Fripp Vs Hackett" as a "warm up."

Edited by Rednight - February 10 2018 at 12:26
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I prefer Zappa as an individual and Fripp as a musician...and since we are dealing with music, Fripp it is.
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I prefer KC and Fripp's music over Zappa's music over the years  but.....Zappa  can rip off a great rock or fusion lead and Fripp hasn't really done that often....he tends to stay restrained and do structured things.
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pulling a yellow card on the OP btw.. as I was typing that I was thinking to myself. In regards especially to Fripp.. that I would chosen Belew over both for he has done far FAR more interesting things than either IMO.

but did you put him in the thread title... nope.. so I didn't see his name.. until I had already vote for Zappa.
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wouldn't call myself a real fan of either.. though like my insightful post predecessor.. I do too have a f**king brain and recognize they have musical capabily haha.

Zappa though..  he's done I've found interesting and enjoyable than Fripp did...
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Althoguh I recognise Frank Zappa's musician capability, Fripp's style is more in my taste !
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Points: 9233 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2018 at 03:59
Zappa.

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Points: 15926 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2018 at 03:47
f**k my ole boots....... I am thinking.
Sorry Bob, but Uncle Frank wins this one !!
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Zappa, hands down. 
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Originally posted by Flight123 Flight123 wrote:

Uncle Frank, but had it been Frith rather than Fripp...
Fripp, Frith, Zappa ......- all innovators, unconventional, and SUPERB players. Love 'em all
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