1500 posts!
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Topic: 1500 posts!
Posted By: Man Overboard
Subject: 1500 posts!
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 17:33
Erm, this was a joke. Mick Pointer, best drummer?  It would be like me saying that John Petrucci is the most retrained guitarist, or that Trouserpress just isn't funny....kinda sad that I actually SAID it was a joke in the thread several times, but there are less than a handful of people who actually "heard" me. Reading skills are good. Anyhow, 1500 posts, I love Progarchives, how's everyone doing?  ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
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Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 17:35
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...not compared to peart he isn't. ------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine." |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 17:37
You must be kidding! Pointer can do all that Peart does and SO MUCH MORE! 
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Posted By: roaryg
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 17:39
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I say Billy Cobham. ------------- Tim FM, Nash the Slash, Camel |
Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 17:43
No - Virgil Donati is |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 17:43
I think Mick's drumming is best showcased on "Script For A Jester's Tear". 
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 17:44
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Hierophant wrote:Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 17:46
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Virgil Donati is awesome.
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Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 17:56
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Is this a joke? As soon as I saw the thread topic I assumed it was a joke. How can Mick, who does alright with Arena, but isn't exactly a drummer's drummer, do "everything that Peart can do and so much more?" Awfully presumptuous, aren't we? Are you fully aware of the extent of Neil's ability? He's actually a better drummer now than he was ten years ago. His technique got a nice overhaul under the direction of Freddie Gruber, who's also worked with Steve Smith (Vital Information, Journey) and others. |
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 17:58
| there is no best drummer ever, it's an un-winable (is that a word?) debate for anyone. |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 18:00
I suppose you've never seen Pointer at a drum-clinic? He was playing polymetrics and polyrhythms that would make Tomas Haake cry like a small child! ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: ummagumma08
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 18:10
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Christian Vander is! (imo)!!
Due to me not being a musician, it's hard to distinguish drummers on grounds of ability, unless they are absolutely hopeless, which they rarely are in progressive rock. But Magma's Christian Vander is truly beyond comparison, not only an amazingly technically gifted and versatile drummer, Christian Vander is, besides being a great drummer, also composer and main figure in his band, very unusual for the drummer! In his compositions, drumming (of course) plays a major role, his playing really drives the whole thing forward, really the most important instrument in Magma, he’s so much more than just a drummer! |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 18:10
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I say Bonzo
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Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 18:13
I'm in the USA. Mick Pointer doesn't give drum clinics over here. And honestly, there's nothing he can do that the likes of Peart, Donati, Portnoy, Chambers, Cobham, Palmer, etc., can't do better. I think you're just Mick's PR guy. |
Posted By: plodder
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 18:14
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I say Billy Cobham as well. Although Peart is an exceptional talent. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/plodder/?chartstyle=basicrt10"> 
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 18:15
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I WISH I was Mick's PR
guy... I can't believe I've kept this farce up for so
long... he seems like a REALLY nice guy, but I think Ringo Starr
can play circles around him!! I was watching my Arena DVD, and I
was absolutely captivated by Mick's, erm, minimalist style...
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Posted By: Dreamer
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 18:18
| John BONHAM!!!!!! Also Bruford is very good, and keith moon is a legend |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 18:33
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You guys are all f***ed up! Watch Jordan Rudess play the drums! Now THAT is grand!!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: seabre
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 18:35
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No, Keith Moon blows. Sorry. Even though he was fairly influential (including to Bonham). I don't like his playing. Buddy Rich, Billy Cobham, Elvin Jones, Mike Portnoy, John Bonham are your best bets for kicking ass at the drum set He he, I forgot about Akira Jimbo. Pretty kick ass drummer, too. |
Posted By: akiko
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 18:35
| I like Marco Minneman and Thomas Lang a lot. I'll check out Arena and see how Pointer is. Virgil Donati is also a Monster. Now for you drummers, what do you think of Akira Jimbo and his ability to play the melody and rythm at the same time. Saw him at a clinic in Baltimore and Dennis Chambers was shaking his head in disbelief. Very impressive guy... |
Posted By: Wormboy
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 19:00
| Would have to be Peart. Maybe Cobham. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 19:05
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There are a lot of better drummers than Pointer.Buddy Rich,Gene Krupa,Keith Moon,John Bonham,Neal Peart,Mike Portnoy,Danny Carey,Dennis Chambers,Virgil Donati,Christian Vander,etc. -------------  |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 19:06
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Bonzo! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 19:23
YES, I AGREE! ------------- And above all, is punk 
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 19:29
Haha, OH MAN THAT IS FUNNY! It's too bad that no one saw you post that, and they still think you really think Mick's the best!  ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 19:30
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Posted By: transend
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 21:53
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This thread is a joke right? i have never seen such an incredibly average drummer, ever. I saw Arena and it felt like he was playing the same 4/4 beat the WHOLE time, all I could think was "when is he gonna do something different?". He didn't. Marillion knew he was not enough to get them into the big league, his drumming (especially on the EP w/Grendel) was very dubious, always seeming 'hesitant' to me, not precise and confident. Like Peart, Collins, Bruford, Portnoy, Bozzio etc. I agree about Dave Lombardo, probably THE most underrated drummer on the planet, simply because so many people don't get Slayer. I met him in the coffee store just inside Mandalay Bay last december just before Slayer's Vegas gig, what a nice guy. There with his wife and kid! |
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 22:03
| Lombardo did play with Fantomas for ahwile, ad I like his style, despite mew not liking slayer that much. |
Posted By: DarHobo
Date Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:56
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http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrichsticktrick.html - http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrichsticktrick.html speaking of great drummers, everyone check this out! |
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 00:02
| By the way, the pic of Vander is hysterical, what a talent that guy is.. |
Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 00:55
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If Morgan Agren had never been born you would be right. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 01:20
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No. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 01:32
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 01:52
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MO, everyone is just happily ignoring you.
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 02:08
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 02:14
Been there done that   ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:16
Yeah, me too! ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:23
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I actually enjoyed reading the replies to you're obvious set up, you troll you! Anyway I'm doing fine, hows the truckin'? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:27
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Man Overbored is the best poster ever. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Infinity
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:30
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Marco Minneman
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:34
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BTW who is this guy? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:43
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Maybe a drummer.... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:49
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Maybe Virgil Donati. He's really a magnificent drummer. His drum solo on the Steve Vai - Live at the Astoria DVD is nothing short of stunning, amazing, jaw-dropping.
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:58
It's on hold... got me
permit, then my car broke down, and the school's across the
state... me mate Pam needs to hurry up and pass her exam, so she
can give me rides. I passed the exam with a near-100% the first time, dunno why she's failed hers twice...
But as soon as I can get a steady ride up there, it'll be a few weeks,
and then I'll be on the road and likely NOT getting another 1500 posts.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:58
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nick mason = better guitarist than petrucci. go ahead, try and argue with me! ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 14:03
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even in jest, sometimes thruth is spoken ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: proger
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 14:29
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i say, andy ward!!!
------------- ...live for tomorrow... |
Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 14:53
| Jaki Liebezeit? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 15:04
Maybe I should rephrase? Who does he normally drum for? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 15:09
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Have a look: http://www.virgildonati.com/about_discography.php - http://www.virgildonati.com/about_discography.php I'd say that most people know him as the drummer of Planet X - and of the Steve Vai band on their tour in 2002. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 15:37
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 15:43
kevin moore couldn't play a ukelele even if he was threatened with castration! ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 16:00
Ian Paice neither!!!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 16:18
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But Bruce Dickinson is the best swordsman in rock!!!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 16:25
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True, he is! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 16:52
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I can own you!
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Posted By: xhouse
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 16:55
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1500 posts. Prog ain't that good, pal. Get some sun. ------------- Between Thought and Expression Lies True Perception |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 16:57
HOW DARE YOU?! It's worth at least 2046 posts! |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:00
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I'm born again! (post-count wise). ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:03
I noticed that t'other day. What happened there? |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:06
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Something like that: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7874&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7874&a mp;PN=1 Currently I'm enjoying the irritating effect ... and my last.fm - radio generated playlist does the rest ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:45
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Wow that really sucks. Now I must post long and constructive posts from now on
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:52
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Impossible!!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:59
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That is not impossible! I'll totally own you! Now I must post a rant to combat that nonsense! 1. How dare you! To insult my Proggie pride! 2. Why would I ever spam unless it was a good chat with my PA mates? 3. Who is Tony R Mong? Is It Tony R the second? 4. Listen to Pain Of Salvation 5. Buy BE 6. Buy The Perfect Element Part I 7. Buy Remedy Lane 8. Buy 12:5 9. Buy A Hour By the Concrete Lake 10. Buy Entropia 11. Listen to Man With Hat 12. Listen to Pendragon 13. Vote for The Green Party 14. Do not write as much as I do! 15. You stink! 16. I win! 17. Don't wink! I'll throw something there! 18. Die! 19. Listen to Prog. 20. I highly recommend Porcupine Tree 21. I do not highly recommend Porcupine Tree 22. I want you here now! A boxing match I must fight! 23. You will lose! I will win! 24. I need a life. 25. This really didn't take that long I swear to god. THERE YOU GUYS, THAT'S A CONSTRUCTURE POST |
