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Topic: Name one song, with best crescendo build upPosted By: Kati
Subject: Name one song, with best crescendo build up
Date Posted: April 17 2015 at 23:30
So many tracks are outstanding gob smacking brilliant, however this one has the most brilliant amazing build up! "....The purple piper plays his tune, The choir softly sing; Three lullabies in an ancient tongue," For the court of the crimson king................ (crescendo)
King Crimson - EPITAPH live In The Court of the Crimson King Steve Hackett & Greg Lake & Wetton. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaWdZIWTHg4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaWdZIWTHg4 xxxxx
Replies: Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: April 17 2015 at 23:37
"A Day In The Life" by The Beatles.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 17 2015 at 23:56
Entangled (Genesis - A Trick Of The Tail). Beyond brilliant.
Posted By: Terakonin
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 00:39
Came here to say "In The Court Of The Crimson King." Should have known that is what the post was about.
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 01:25
Kati wrote:
bounce, ta ta ta te te ti ta tum... yay! Happy bounce Pain Of Salvation - ! (Foreward) Live [Ending Themes DVD] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpK5JaJ_96E&index=21&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwMpru59t6e6aNB3556gzv7j" rel="nofollow -
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 02:12
hahahaha this track has many, The Flower Kings - The Truth Will Set You Free https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFanl90r7Mw&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwMpru59t6e6aNB3556gzv7j&index=33" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFanl90r7Mw&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwMpru59t6e6aNB3556gzv7j&index=33 xxxx
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 08:02
I'm not claiming it to be the best ('cos I'm not one for that kind of thing) but my favourite is Prelude by Secret Green, which probably qualifies as being one of the longest crescendo'd intros ever committed to record:
(If you play this in the car the beginning is so quiet you can't hear anything for the first minute or so)
Secret Green is the brain-child of Francis Lickerish and his former band are the past-masters of the dramatic symphonic build-up, as this multi-crescendo track ably demonstrates:
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 13:59
Maybe not the 'best' but definitely one of the longest...
Abaddon's Bolero - ELP (Original studio version)
The whole song is one long crescendo with the big pay off...
Bum Bum, Ba Ba Bum Bum, BA BA BUM
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 16:57
JD wrote:
Bum Bum, Ba Ba Bum Bum, BA BA <font size="7">BUM
You're being a bit 'anal', don't you think ?? Abaddon's Bolero - excellent !!
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 17:36
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Posted By: Guy Guden
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 18:36
Mike Oldfield- Hergest Ridge side 1. also Incantations, side 3, maybe.
Amon Duul II- Mozambique and Apocalyptic Bore
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 19:11
Interesting thread! So many songs come to mind... , this is not a Top 10s and Lists' thread but do we have to limit ourselves to just one or two? I'd like to list here quite a few songs with crescendos that I enjoy, but several of them I think are very little, does also from any musical piece count or just songs?
Yeah I see here great pieces of music!
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 19:22
Dean wrote:
I'm not claiming it to be the best ('cos I'm not one for that kind of thing) but my favourite is Prelude by Secret Green, which probably qualifies as being one of the longest crescendo'd intros ever committed to record:
Secret Green - Prelude
(If you play this in the car the beginning is so quiet you can't hear anything for the first minute or so)
Amazing crescendo from a stunning music that I'm just happening to discover!
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"Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 21:11
The Enid - Judgement (In The Region Of The Summer Stars) has a beautiful crescendo too.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 22:14
As it is not a prog only thread, gonna go with Mojo Pin. So Real also has an amazing 'explosion' towards the end but not as amazing as Mojo Pin imo.
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 22:31
Tom Ozric wrote:
JD wrote:
Bum Bum, Ba Ba Bum Bum, BA BA <font size="7">BUM
You're being a bit 'anal', don't you think ?? Abaddon's Bolero - excellent !!
Man I hate being the 'butt' of peoples jokes, makes me feel like such an @ss wipe.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 18 2015 at 23:22
The introduction to "The Revealing Science of God" does it for me....
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 00:25
JD wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
JD wrote:
Bum Bum, Ba Ba Bum Bum, BA BA <font size="7">BUM
You're being a bit 'anal', don't you think ?? Abaddon's Bolero - excellent !!
Man I hate being the 'butt' of peoples jokes, makes me feel like such an @ss wipe.
The good thing is - you're not !! I'm just immature.....
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 01:13
The Silverman - And The Legend Days Return
TS is a member of Legendary Pink Dots, and has some outstanding solo releases.
Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 01:44
"Megalomania" by Black Sabbath. The whole thing builds until it goes over the edge with the mellotron and Ozzy screaming like a maniac.
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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 02:11
King Crimson - Starless
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 02:22
addictedtoprog wrote:
King Crimson - Starless
Or "Lark's Tongue in Aspic, Part 1", for that matter.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 03:17
Seven Stones - Genesis
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 08:18
addictedtoprog wrote:
King Crimson - Starless
Actually took for page two to come around before someone mentioned what I thought was one of the most obvious choices. It's the one that sprang to my mind first.
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 08:20
The Dark Elf wrote:
Or "Lark's Tongue in Aspic, Part 1", for that matter.
More than one build up too!
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 08:26
Marillion - Goodbye to All That
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 09:41
Just found some crescendos when listening to these songs that I love:
Vangelis - Heaven and Hell (third movement) Goblin - Le Cacate Di Viridiana (final part)
And forgot about this really long one: Steve Hackett - Shadow Of The Hierophant (final part)
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 10:28
Rick Robson wrote:
And forgot about this really long one: Steve Hackett - Shadow Of The Hierophant (final part)
I was thinking about this in the car yesterday as the CD happened to be in the player. It is a weird one in many different ways.
First of which is that it is mostly created in the mixing desk, Phil Colins is beating several shades of sh*t out of his drum kit for the whole duration of the crescendo, no doubt hitting them as hard as drummers invariably do and therefore being as loud as any drummer can be, so when you compare that with the other musicians (organ, guitar, bass) you can hear that they are also playing at a constant loudness for the whole crescendo so the gradual increase in volume is created by the mixing engineer, not the musicians.
In itself this would not result in a crescendo but merely a protracted fade-in.
But something else happens, the tone seems to change too, becoming fuller as the volume increases - this gives the impression that the music is not fading-in but is approaching you (if you can imagine the band matching towards you).
Again this effect would not result in a crescendo but a clever version of the lengthy fade-in (a bit like the famous oasis scene in Lawrence of Arabia).
Yet this is a real musical crescendo because Hackett introduces more instruments as the piece builds up, adding more depth to the increasing volume (the choral voices followed by the dramatic power chords and then the chimes of the tubular bells)...
and then as we approach the denouement...
it quickly fades-out (but not as a diminuendo) to an anti-climax.
Most strange but very effective in its own way.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 10:56
All the KC songs mentioned of course .....and there are probably several Moody songs also, but I always have liked this track along with the whole album.
Alanderie by Fantasy..stats at 10.44 on this clip...as well as other places on the LP>
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Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 17:45
'The Antique' by Kayo Dot
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Writing a poem
With seventeen syllables
Is very diffic....
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 19:21
Dean wrote:
Rick Robson wrote:
And forgot about this really long one: Steve Hackett - Shadow Of The Hierophant (final part)
I was thinking about this in the car yesterday as the CD happened to be in the player. It is a weird one in many different ways.
First of which is that it is mostly created in the mixing desk, Phil Colins is beating several shades of sh*t out of his drum kit for the whole duration of the crescendo, no doubt hitting them as hard as drummers invariably do and therefore being as loud as any drummer can be, so when you compare that with the other musicians (organ, guitar, bass) you can hear that they are also playing at a constant loudness for the whole crescendo so the gradual increase in volume is created by the mixing engineer, not the musicians.
In itself this would not result in a crescendo but merely a protracted fade-in.
But something else happens, the tone seems to change too, becoming fuller as the volume increases - this gives the impression that the music is not fading-in but is approaching you (if you can imagine the band matching towards you).
Again this effect would not result in a crescendo but a clever version of the lengthy fade-in (a bit like the famous oasis scene in Lawrence of Arabia).
Yet this is a real musical crescendo because Hackett introduces more instruments as the piece builds up, adding more depth to the increasing volume (the choral voices followed by the dramatic power chords and then the chimes of the tubular bells)...
and then as we approach the denouement...
it quickly fades-out (but not as a diminuendo) to an anti-climax.
Most strange but very effective in its own way.
Yeah right on, great point. You just reminded me of the interesting aspect of the gradual volume increasing, easily noticeable in this piece as you clearly pointed out, but I agree with you on its very effective result, and it was what Hackett really wanted, that dramatic atmosphere gradually overwhelming the listener.
I'm now wondering about its use in progressive music, I think that it is more common than I imagined, not so much in the case of other music perhaps, in Classical Music for example they would never have a mixing engineer to help them. Well, rather probably used in the contemporary Classical Music, I don't know.
I've recalled two orchestral crescendos that I love, performed by great prog bands:
Yes - Opening Excerpts From Firebird Suite (Yessongs) PFM - live introdution of Impressioni Di Settembre (off Da Mozart A Celebration)
In these crescendos there is some volume increasing but obviously applied by the performers.
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 20 2015 at 20:30
Bill Bruford was not on this album. Awww this is frickin' brilliant, Greg Lake and the harmonies plus instrumentals to me nothing beats this really. King Crimson - EPITAPH live In The Court of the Crimson King Steve Hackett & Greg Lake & Wetton - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaWdZIWTHg4&index=18&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwOz2Mxi8Ed1jFYTRqS3M7kJ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaWdZIWTHg4&index=18&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwOz2Mxi8Ed1jFYTRqS3M7kJ xxxxxxxx
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: April 20 2015 at 20:43
What about Swans' To Be Kind? That album has lots of awesome crescendos and build ups.
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: April 21 2015 at 08:35
By the way I think it is good to mention some memorable passages in prog that are stunning crescendos too, but maybe I'm wrong and they are not crescendos, anyway they are very well known and at least for me are the highlights of the pieces, I love them:
In Pink Floyd - High Hopes, there is a beautiful little crescendo, better felt in PULSE's live version; Final part of The Strawbs - Autumn ("The Winter Long" I guess.)
And from RPI again, just when listening to this superbly good moment yesterday, I found it is a little but amazing crescendo: Final part of La Maschera di Cera - Nuova Luce.
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"Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB
Kati wrote:
Pain Of Salvation - ! (Foreward) Live [Ending Themes DVD] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpK5JaJ_96E&index=21&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwMpru59t6e6aNB3556gzv7j" rel="nofollow -
